How Can We Address Anti-intellectualism in Our Communities?

[godkiller]

And let me preempt something here. I know you're going to cite statistics that say african americans get less jobs out of college than whites. The problem with that is that you're not controlling for other factors. Because one huge reason for that could be the fact that blacks have lower GPAs than white people do. So naturally, of course you're going to find lower post grade employment rates among blacks.

Even controlling for GPA, blacks still probably get fewer jobs. So there ya go. It's not enough of a reason to forgo education though. People with degrees make more money than people without and this applies across groups. But your inference that blacks get the same jobs as whites with the same GPA is probably wrong, but nice try. An educated black man undoubtedly is BETTER OFF with a college degree than not and it probably increases the quality of his life TO A HIGHER DEGREE than it would increase a middle class cac who was already middle class to begin with, but racism is still there (a small caveat I'm sure).

This whole idea that we're all victims and its all whitey's fault for everything is exactly why black america is so degenerate.

They are indeed part of the reason though we can always do better on our own. Part of the reason we've had consistent unemployment these last 200 years is because cacs won't hire us or pay us fairly for our work. They won't give us loans and so forth, so we turn towards things we can succeed in like music and sports.

If we're ever going to succeed in this country its going to be by first taking accountability for the state we're in today instead of always trying to blame it on white people and slavery. Right now there are too many tools available in this country for black people to succeed and be successful.

We can definitely do better in spite of racism but racism is still there and to blame for much of our condition. That said we have to work with what we have and do what you can where you are.

but you've got the white liberal media and Al Sharpton pulling out the race card any chance they get. But of course they're so conveniently silent about the eight thousand blacks that are killed every year by their own brothers.

Get the fukk out of here with this cac false equivalency bullshyt. I can't stand you c00ns. I guess when the Nazis killed the Jews, and the Jews complained, the Nazis could go: "Well jews kill jews, sometimes. It happens". Part of the reason blacks have so much crime is because we've been stuck in these dead end ghettos with high unemployment for 200 years. When a man gives up on life he drinks and he smokes. That's what AAs have done.

You know the ironic thing is that a big reason why so many people are racist is because so many black people think they're problems are due to racism.

More c00nery and self hate. You have the audacity to infer that white racism is justified because blacks feel persecuted.

 

[godkiller]

This is the sort of anti intellectualism and close mindedness we need to talk about

That post was total c00nery, false equivalency and self hate. Moron is saying blacks shouldn't care if cacs kill us because blacks sometimes kill black people. I guess that if cacs decided to nuke Africa he'd just say, "Well blacks were killing each other anyway". I guess black people's crime rate has nothing to do with cacs either. After all they only stuffed us into ghettos and deprived us of gainful employment for 200 years. We don't have the representative in Washington working for us. They don't give a fukk. Nah, has nothing to do with that. And then that c00n has to audacity to infer that white racism is justified because blacks feel persecuted. That's a fukking joke. c00n logic sucks.

 

[theworldismine13]

Boy Stop!!!!

You gonna take one post and extrapolate and make it applicable to the other resounding posts that I've made.....!?

Respond to my other posts....Its like 7 or 8 of them......Instead of making these e-comments for props that solidifies my position that most cats on the internet that talk this kind of talk are mostly see-thru type dudes in real life..........

Its other posts by me if you want a real discussion about our "community"...But I'm sure don't want to address them...

I don't need to address your other repost because I was cosigning other people so there was no need, you are the type I was referring to that don't have any real ideas, the only ideas you have consists of things white people need to do

let me take a wild guess, are you suppose to be a "real nikka" and then other people that disagree with you are "fake nikkas", is that your basic argument?

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Is there room for intellectualism in poverty? Intellectualism to me seems like the result of an abundance of the necessities of life to the point where friends are able to focus on intellectual subjects, friends.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

I don't need to address your other repost because I was cosigning other people so there was no need, you are the type I was referring to that don't have any real ideas, the only ideas you have consists of things white people need to do

let me take a wild guess, are you suppose to be a "real nikka" and then other people that disagree with you are "fake nikkas", is that your basic argument?

NOPE!!!!

And who in this thread has laid out any...."real ideas?"

 

[godkiller]

But if people can focus on music and playing sports then they can focus on intellectualism too. It's just a matter of efficient use of time and resources. There are poor Chinese kids who have nothing and focus on intellectual endeavors like math in China.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

But if people can focus on music and playing sports then they can focus on intellectualism too. It's just a matter of efficient use of resources. There are poor Chinese kids who have nothing and focus on intellectual endeavors like math. No excuse.

Can you compare Chinese culture to American culture? That's the driving force...

 

[bigDeeOT]

So you mentioned Al Sharpton ? Check.
You mentioned blacks "blaming whitey" ? Check.
Made sure to include "White liberals" with
no mention of the ugliness apparent on the right. Check.
Made sure to finish it all off with "Blacks are the real racists !". Check.
I'm surprised you didn't mention Jesse Jackson in this post.
Sounds like you frequent st0rmfr0nt friend

And that's how I know I've won the argument. When you try to attack the person rather than saying anything of substance in reply to the points I made because, well, that's all you can do at this point. You have nothing to say.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

And that's how I know I've won the argument. When you try to attack the person rather than saying anything of substance in reply to the points I made because, well, that's all you can do at this point. You have nothing to say.

Everything has already been stated....You came out of the bushes with the Negroes need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps argument.......You didn't even touch on the anti-intellect theme of the thread.....You aint won shyt

 

[bigDeeOT]

This is something that has always bothered me and why I started to question things, which is why the hell is white flight a bad thing? I can't fuk with that type of ideology that says white flight is a bad thing, that isn't pro black

I'll tell you why white flight is a bad thing. Its pretty simple. Because whenever you have a high concentration of black people its very hard for them to work together. If you leave an entire city in the hands of black people, the city underperforms by almost any measure of social standards. I think you'd be hard pressed to name even one city, institution, or any sort of congregation run by black people that can serve as a model for how blacks can work together. It's quite sad that there's literally not one single example in this entire country. And I'm not talking about the past, I mean currently or within the last 50 years.

 

[88m3]

Is there room for intellectualism in poverty? Intellectualism to me seems like the result of an abundance of the necessities of life to the point where friends are able to focus on intellectual subjects, friends.

c00n

 

[theworldismine13]

That post was total c00nery, false equivalency and self hate. Moron is saying blacks shouldn't care if cacs kill us because blacks sometimes kill black people. I guess that if cacs decided to nuke Africa he'd just say, "Well blacks were killing each other anyway". I guess black people's crime rate has nothing to do with cacs either. After all they only stuffed us into ghettos and deprived us of gainful employment for 200 years. We don't have the representative in Washington working for us. They don't give a fukk. Nah, has nothing to do with that. And then that c00n has to audacity to infer that white racism is justified because blacks feel persecuted. That's a fukking joke. c00n logic sucks.

I don't think there was anything particularly wrong with his post and I cosign it for the most part

I think by resorting to name calling you are downgrading the discussion and are doing exactly what this thread is referring to

We need to have a free open open environment where all opinions are respected

What are these ghettos that you are referring to? What makes a ghetto a ghetto? Why do we think of large concentrations of black as a bad thing? These are the questions we need to ask


And If we want to fix the "ghettos" I believe we have to discuss why so many black people are killing other black people and what black people need to do to stop it

I think white people should do whatever the fuk white people want to do, I don't get down with ideologies that are just talking about what white people need to do to save black people

I'm not worried about white people dropping a bomb on africa I'm worried about how we black people develop our own bombs, so that if white people do decide to drop a bomb on africa we can drop a bomb back.....see that is the difference between a victim mentality and dominating mentality

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

I'll tell you why white flight is a bad thing. Its pretty simple. Because whenever you have a high concentration of black people its very hard for them to work together. If you leave an entire city in the hands of black people, the city underperforms by almost any measure of social standards. I think you'd be hard pressed to name even one city, institution, or any sort of congregation run by black people that can serve as a model for how blacks can work together. It's quite sad that there's literally not one single example in this entire country. And I'm not talking about the past, I mean currently or within the last 50 years.

I wanna see how long this poster survives on a "hip hop" forum after this post....

 

[88m3]

I don't think there was anything particularly wrong with his post and I cosign it for the most part

Of course you don't. HHL4E and you are probably long lost brothers.

 

[theworldismine13]

I'll tell you why white flight is a bad thing. Its pretty simple. Because whenever you have a high concentration of black people its very hard for them to work together. If you leave an entire city in the hands of black people, the city underperforms by almost any measure of social standards. I think you'd be hard pressed to name even one city, institution, or any sort of congregation run by black people that can serve as a model for how blacks can work together. It's quite sad that there's literally not one single example in this entire country. And I'm not talking about the past, I mean currently or within the last 50 years.

Yeah pretty much, but people don't want to talk about that, there are entire cities we control and we aren't doing what we need to do develop them, people don't want to go out the box and research new ideas and new theories on developing our communities and cities, too many people are stuck on liberal ideologies