House is swarmed after being listed in Raleigh for under $300k

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So the medium income of Americans is like 50k

yeah these home buyers are cashing out homes 100k over the asking price

goddamn you're a moron

Where you lost at is thinking the “average American” are the ones swarming in to buy all these homes.

Where I lost at is actually responding to you.
 
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He's right there's plenty of cacs with cash money (i.e retirement,etc)

No there's not, medium income of america is 31,000

THERE IS A RETIREMENT CRISIS GOING IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW

DO YOU LIVE UNDER A ROCK

Also these type of cash bidding wars are only going around in certain areas that are already over saturated

if you want a good deal on a great house you have to buy one in area that is just being developed, and your value will go up as the rest of the area around is fully developed
 
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Where you lost at is thinking the “average American” are the ones swarming in to buy all these homes.

Where I lost at is actually responding to you.

The house they are swarming was listed at 300k

and average american can have a down payment for that type of house especially a two income house hold

you're broke
 

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No there's not, medium income of america is 31,000

THERE IS A RETIREMENT CRISIS GOING IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW

DO YOU LIVE UNDER A ROCK

Also these type of cash bidding wars are only going around in certain areas that are already over saturated

if you want a good deal on a great house you have to buy one in area that is just being developed, and your value will go up as the rest of the area around is fully developed
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Hedgefunds are hedgefeinds, foreign investment firms are just

a real state investor, it's a person who buys and sells real estate, not an institution

No Bank is going to finance a house for a homebuyer more than the APRAISED VALUE OF THE HOME

This is what happens when you read articles on the internet and think everything read is fact

The information you read is from cash buyers who go into bidding wars over houses that go well over the asking price

you don't read the articles just the headlines that's why you're confused

Funny. You are assuming I got my knowledge from reading an article. However, I am a Realtor and deal with these type of transactions all of the time. So I am speaking from experience.

To your point about “investors”, you provided some clarity for me. It seems like you are strictly speaking of individual real estate investors and not investors as a whole. Because hedge funds and foreign entities are most certainly real estate investors when they use their available funds for the purpose of purchasing real property to add to their portfolio.

In regards to individual investors, again, they definitely do utilize the assistance of Realtors and the MLS. The off market/FSBO market has limited options. Therefore, the average investor would not have enough options to choose from to build a respectable real estate portfolio without considering on market listings.

Final point - you initially stated that it is “illegal” for homes to sell for more than the list price. You then followed up to say that banks/lending institutions will not lend money over the appraised value. That is two very different things.

You are correct that lenders will not find loans above the appraised value. However, that does not mean that a property selling for higher than the list price is illegal. In those circumstances the buyer is responsible for bringing the difference to the closing table in order to make the deal work.

Example
- Sales contract = $500k
- Appraised value comes in at $475k
- Difference of $25k
- Lender will only fund mortgage based on appraised value - $475k
- If the buyer did not implement an appraisal contingency in the sales contract then they would be required to pay the $25k difference out of pocket in addition to their down payment (let’s assume 5% for this example) and closing costs.

In the current market, sellers are getting buyers to agree to pay X amount over the appraised value (multiple offer situations). Again, none of this is illegal and is a direct result of the low supply, high demand that we are experiencing in the market.
 

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Exactly, you can't sell a house more than the listing price, nobody is going to list a house more than the appraised value

a cash buyer can pay whatever for a house

we're talking about regular people here, how many people cashing out homes a thousand more than the asking price

lets be serious here
This can happen tho. People list properties all the time without getting an appraisal.

I sold my old house in 2020. Bought it for 109K in 2012, we listed it for 169K because the market was lit, ended up accepting an offer the same weekend it went up on the realtor sites for 179K... the seller then went through the inspection and appraisal process.

I don't even know what the house appraised for, they only let the seller know what house appraised for if it's lower than the asking price. If it's the same or more, the buyers don't even know.
 
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Funny. You are assuming I got my knowledge from reading an article. However, I am a Realtor and deal with these type of transactions all of the time. So I am speaking from experience.

To your point about “investors”, you provided some clarity for me. It seems like you are strictly speaking of individual real estate investors and not investors as a whole. Because hedge funds and foreign entities are most certainly real estate investors when they use their available funds for the purpose of purchasing real property to add to their portfolio.

In regards to individual investors, again, they definitely do utilize the assistance of Realtors and the MLS. The off market/FSBO market has limited options. Therefore, the average investor would not have enough options to choose from to build a respectable real estate portfolio without considering on market listings.

Final point - you initially stated that it is “illegal” for homes to sell for more than the list price. You then followed up to say that banks/lending institutions will not lend money over the appraised value. That is two very different things.

You are correct that lenders will not find loans above the appraised value. However, that does not mean that a property selling for higher than the list price is illegal. In those circumstances the buyer is responsible for bringing the difference to the closing table in order to make the deal work.

Example
- Sales contract = $500k
- Appraised value comes in at $475k
- Difference of $25k
- Lender will only fund mortgage based on appraised value - $475k
- If the buyer did not implement an appraisal contingency in the sales contract then they would be required to pay the $25k difference out of pocket in addition to their down payment (let’s assume 5% for this example) and closing costs.

In the current market, sellers are getting buyers to agree to pay X amount over the appraised value (multiple offer situations). Again, none of this is illegal and is a direct result of the low supply, high demand that we are experiencing in the market.

Realtor sucks, they take advantage of people who don't know about real estate or real estate investing

No Real investor is buying a house for than what it's worth

Realtors are fukking useless

also a realtor is just a real estate agent who's apart of the Association, you're a sales agent, stop trying to sound more important than you are

thanks for proving my point
 

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So the medium income of Americans is like 50k

yeah these home buyers are cashing out homes 100k over the asking price

goddamn you're a moron, these are corporations making these purchases not people

He's right there's plenty of cacs with cash money (i.e retirement,etc)

Naw, he's correct. In 2021, more investment properties were sold than there has been in the past 2 decades.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/interactive/2022/housing-market-investors/

Last year, investors bought nearly one in seven homes sold in America’s top metropolitan areas, the most in at least two decades, according to the realty company Redfin.

Those purchases come at a time when would-be buyers across the country are seeing wildly escalating prices, raising the question of what impact investors are having on prices for everyone else. Investors were even more aggressive in the final three months of the year, buying 15 percent of all homes that sold in the 40 markets.
 

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Realtor sucks, they take advantage of people who don't know about real estate or real estate investing

No Real investor is buying a house for than what it's worth

Realtors are fukking useless

also a realtor is just a real estate agent who's apart of the Association, you're a sales agent, stop trying to sound more important than you are

thanks for proving my point

You sound hurt my bro. Not going to argue with you on your opinion on the importance, or lack of, for realtors in the market.

Realtor, real estate agent, salesperson… use whichever term you would like. Doesn’t discredit the info I just shared with you.

As for investors not buying houses for more than their appraisal value - it happens every day. Literally. Cash investors typically don’t even have appraisals conducted.

But never mind me. You got it bro.
 
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Naw, he's correct. In 2021, more investment properties were sold than there has been in the past 2 decades.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/interactive/2022/housing-market-investors/

Last year, investors bought nearly one in seven homes sold in America’s top metropolitan areas, the most in at least two decades, according to the realty company Redfin.

Those purchases come at a time when would-be buyers across the country are seeing wildly escalating prices, raising the question of what impact investors are having on prices for everyone else. Investors were even more aggressive in the final three months of the year, buying 15 percent of all homes that sold in the 40 markets.

Real estate investors can be large corporations, local companies or wealthy individuals, and they generally don’t live in the properties they are buying. Some look to flip homes to new buyers, while others rent them out.

He's not right, the article is bullshyt and it's telling you it's bullshyt

Once again, these aren't home buyers buying the homes, which was the point I was making

that's that problem yall DON'T WANT TO LISTEN, you just look for stuff you in articles to support what you want to believe

all these articles are bullshyt

you have to be active in real estate to know what's really going on

Real Estate Investors never stop buying or selling, first of all

We are talking about home buyers here

regular people just looking for a house for their family
 
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You sound hurt my bro. Not going to argue with you on your opinion on the importance, or lack of, for realtors in the market.

Realtor, real estate agent, salesperson… use whichever term you would like. Doesn’t discredit the info I just shared with you.

As for investors not buying houses for more than their appraisal value - it happens every day. Literally. Cash investors typically don’t even have appraisals conducted.

But never mind me. You got it bro.

I know I though

you called yourself a realtor not an agent or a broker, that's how I know you're full of shyt

because you don't even know what a realtor is you think it's a generic term for a real estate person

the only one hurt is you

People go to real estate professionals when they have no experience buying or selling real esates

real estate investors prefer not to deal with these people
 
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Prove it, you can't sell a house more than what it's listed price is, only below it

all you can say is I'm wrong

no facts behind it

you don't know shyt about real estate I'm done responding to you dumb ass muthafukkaz

you not worth the time and can't even absorb full game, and don't even research the topics you speak on


Bro, I'm starting to think you're just trolling.

But my proof is that I JUST bought a house for more than the asking price. Like literally a few months ago lol. Now tell me how that was allowed?






As far as me not knowing what I'm talking about, peep my post history. I'm pretty confident in saying that I'm just as qualified as anyone on this entire forum to be speaking on this particular topic.
 
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