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don't see how folk don't see this shyt for what it really is
Horn of Africa Regional Thread
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don't see how folk don't see this shyt for what it really is
Neocolonialism. Simple as that. The Woyane scum were very willing acolytes for American foreign interest in the region and they created a ticking time bomb with the political setup. Now the govt, as I expect, will see the Oromo attempt to copycat the Woyane.
This is only going to end in a bloody fashion. Libya is one outcome, but I’m expecting a giant Rwanda. If that happens, frankly I’ll be rooting for every and any bad thing to happen to America. I hope this country burns under its own fascism.
thatrapsfan
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Civil wars against a well organized/broadly supported regional entity never end in total defeat, unless there is clear military superiority.
It was predictable that this would end up well entrenched insurgency. The triumphalism that followed the initial operation was ill-advised.
The turn of events has little to do with Western (rhetorical) criticism of the operation.
There is very little proof that the TPLF is getting tactical/armed support from West, and the photos of NGO workers/Western journalists in the region to prove otherwise is lazy propaganda. NGOs providing food relief will deal with whatever entity is dominant in their area of operation. This is no different than when Saudis/Yemeni opponents of Houthis claim the UN is in cahoots with the Houthis because they call for an end to the Saudi blockade and deal with Houthi entities to distribute aid.
Fact is Abiy/Afwerki thought they could crush a political enemy by force, and failed. If anything, this war has reinforced their support in their region. The only way forward would be to scale back the conflict, recognize the facts on the ground, and agree to some form of regional autonomy. The military resolution is clearly dead.
It was predictable that this would end up well entrenched insurgency. The triumphalism that followed the initial operation was ill-advised.
The turn of events has little to do with Western (rhetorical) criticism of the operation.
There is very little proof that the TPLF is getting tactical/armed support from West, and the photos of NGO workers/Western journalists in the region to prove otherwise is lazy propaganda. NGOs providing food relief will deal with whatever entity is dominant in their area of operation. This is no different than when Saudis/Yemeni opponents of Houthis claim the UN is in cahoots with the Houthis because they call for an end to the Saudi blockade and deal with Houthi entities to distribute aid.
Fact is Abiy/Afwerki thought they could crush a political enemy by force, and failed. If anything, this war has reinforced their support in their region. The only way forward would be to scale back the conflict, recognize the facts on the ground, and agree to some form of regional autonomy. The military resolution is clearly dead.
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Egypt is the biggest winner in all this. A weak and divided Ethiopia makes it easier for the Renaissance Dam to be undermined.
….and it’s an across the board sentiment no matter who runs Egypt. The infamous Morsi video where he explicitly spelled out how Egypt would use subversive tactics by encouraging separatists.
It’s been clear to most Ethiopians that this has been an Egypt/America effort. The moment Egypt brokered the latest Israel/Palestine ceasefire was the moment they got the Biden admins. attention regarding the dam. Moreover, sabotaging Ethiopia and supporting dictators like the TPLF is a policy going back decades. Especially so during the Obama years.
This is neocolonialism. Simple as that. And if you’re Black or of African descent and support this neocolonial campaign then you have no business talking about the Black struggle in any form or fashion.
This shyt fukkin bothers the hell outta me most of all. But this is also chickens coming home to roost. Far too many Ethiopians closed themselves off from the African American community when this could’ve been their staunchest ally. Now we have to go about it mostly alone with incoherent idiots speaking for us while different subsections of the Black community take up whichever position works best for them.
Worse yet, we’ve allowed outsiders to frame Ethiopian history in the light of the same ones looking to destroy the country. It’s a complete denial of the other side’s story in the name of framing criminal, torturing dictators as some rag tag lovable rebels. Ethiopia has always been a counter to non African paradigms. Be it religion, politics, whatever it is. Ethiopia has always been the one thing African that whites can’t deny. The Greeks spoke more highly of Ethiopians than they did of themselves and this is Europe’s cultural root. In Israel, they brought in Ethiopians yo make themselves look less racist just for those Ethiopians to claim their Africanness first while calling out their hypocrisy and racism. Quite frankly I understand, whites have been wanting us to be wiped out for a long time now.
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88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
Ethiopia was happy in the late 80's, early 90's to arm, train and unleash rebels against their neighbours, leading to the death and destruction of entire nations. Now their army is fighting internal wars on many fronts and looks like outsiders are doing the same to them.
Great, I love it. More please.
Great, I love it. More please.
Looks like aid is being cut in many directions
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
It's KENYA!
US would prefer Sisi's extra ass over the Muslim Brotherhood. If Ethiopia moves forward w/ GERD then it will weaken Sisi's stance in Egypt.
But Abiy is going to keep filling that damn.
Getachew spearheaded the attack on the ENDF Northern forces that popped all of this off. He sent missiles indiscriminately into Eritrea's capital which dragged them into the conflict. He is now threatening to march to Addis and Asmara. Many in the Horn view him as a terrorist and a big source of the destabilization in the region.
Worldvision, WFP, and CARE are on the ground in Ethiopia. They don't want to deal with USAID specifically b/c that is a national security apparatus and has a long history of working hand-in-hand with the CIA on covert "regime change" operations. If you look at some of the "white USAID activists" that are beating the drums on Twitter, many of them are ex-CIA neocons working for FP think tanks. They are not to be trusted with full access to the region. I think this is a legitimate concern for Abiy. Would you trust this witch?
thatrapsfan
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Getachew spearheaded the attack on the ENDF Northern forces that popped all of this off. He sent missiles indiscriminately into Eritrea's capital which dragged them into the conflict. He is now threatening to march to Addis and Asmara. Many in the Horn view him as a terrorist and a big source of the destabilization in the region.
Worldvision, WFP, and CARE are on the ground in Ethiopia. They don't want to deal with USAID specifically b/c that is a national security apparatus and has a long history of working hand-in-hand with the CIA on covert "regime change" operations. If you look at some of the "white USAID activists" that are beating the drums on Twitter, many of them are ex-CIA neocons working for FP think tanks. They are not to be trusted with full access to the region. I think this is a legitimate concern for Abiy. Would you trust this witch?
I dont remember any apprehension about the US/CIA/neocolonialism when the Trump Admin was warming to Eritrea in its first few years, and when it supported the removal of UN sanctions after the Ethiopia deal,
Top U.S. Envoy Reiterates Decision to Strengthen Ties with Eritrea
Nor a peep about regional intervention/meddling etc while Eritrea was letting the UAE use the Assab Air Base for years to run sorties in Yemen.
Hell even now Afwerki speaks warmly about Saudi and the regional role they should play and his fervent supporters pretend they dont see it. Framing this as a battle between Good and Evil or national heros vs neocolonialists and their allies seems weak to me.
Wont even touch on irony of Afwerki fans now claiming theyre concerned about Ethiopian national initiatives like the dam, which they used to trash for years under previous regime.
The current admin is more friendly to TPLF, but I dont see any serious proof that they 1) provide logistical or armed support to them or 2) spearheaded this conflict. That it ends up weakening Ethiopia is par for the course and predictable, but is not proof of a foreign plot.