Inflated.80'snot, he still won scoring titles. Like this era isnt inflated, too. Youre acting like they went from a second rd exit to NBA champs. They lost a Game 7 Final due to an all time bad call on Laimbeer. If Isian doesnt thrown the ball to Bird in 87, they likely make the Finals then. You can say they got better, but it was the acquisition of AD which helped solidify them as a contender, in the first place.
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I know the history. Again you're comparing 27ppg nowadays to 30ppg in the 80s. That's a field goal difference. They both lost then changed personal that was clearly an issue and then won. You're arguing semantics that are irrelevant because you think Dantley was better(I'm not arguing that). That's fine but that doesn't make their situations dissimilar.
Its not semantics. One was a two time scoring champ, the other never sniffed that accolade. Why do you keep ignoring that fact, like its not a big deal?!?! One was the leading scorer on a Finals team, the other one wasnt. I can name many dudes who had high scoring seasons, who wont be immortalized. Just about every scoring champ will be remembered. You know the history? So why are you acting like 88 wasnt an all time robbery??
I'm not ignoring anything. It is 3ppg between their best scoring seasons. That's 1 shot. You're making a distinction without a difference. 88' was a robbery but in the record books they still lost. Dantley was considered a detriment to team success and was moved. Why you still so upset about it? Madder than Dant
Now you can keep going but you'll be talking to yourself. Enjoy breakfastWhat is with you dudes? If someone disagrees with you, theyre mad?? Their best seasons? By that logic, Brandon Lloyd must be on the same level as Steve Largent because his best season produced more yards. As a matter of fact, Derozan must be on Clyde Drexler's level, since they both peaked at 27 ppg. Derozan must not be that far below Bird and Dr. J, either. His career high is only 3 pts lesser than Larry's. And is equal to Doc in the NBA. The company that AD is inI'm not ignoring anything is 3ppg between their best scoring seasons. That's 1 shot. You're making a distinction without a difference. 88' was a robbery but in the record books they still lost. Dantley was considered a detriment to team success and was moved. Why you still so upset about it? Madder than Dant
Multiple time scoring champs who made the Finals
MJ
Kareem
KD
Kobe
Shaq
Westbrook
Iverson
Harden(6th man, still vital)
McAdoo(role player, but still contributing. Thats all I got, off top. AD was the leading scorer on a team that beat the 3 time champion, Celtics. Who was Derozan beating?
Again those weren't even his Pistons numbers. That's from when he was chucking on Jazz teams that beat nobody which again is irrelevant to this convo. Yes the Pistons beat the Cs. Are you gonna mention how broken down Bird and McHale were at that point in 88'? Nope because you're not interested in the truth. The fact that you even wasted time to create your own ESPN Stat to elevate Dantley to compare him with MVPs who were clearly greater players just proves my point. Again enjoy breakfast
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Do me a favor, dawg. Are you gonna mention how beat up the Lakers were in 89, when Detroit finally beat them, or are you gonna act like Derroit beat them solely because of AD being traded? So you can pinpoint the Celtics being beaten up, to downgrade AD, but act like the Lakers were in peak form, when the Pistons finally dethroned them? Easily exposed the contradiction, huh?? ESPN stat? Nah. True spill. Did I ever say Dantlet was equal to those players?? You can be in an illustrious group and be the weak link. Doesnt change the fact that he is qualified. Jamal Lewis is not as good as Barry, OJ, ED, Peterson or Henry, he still earned his place as a 2000 yard rusher. Who didnt know AD did his best scorong with the Jazz?? The point of his Detroit tenure is to show that it still translated to winning. He helped Detroit become elite, through his scoring. They dont call that phantom foul on Laimbeer, his legacy is.entirely different.
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This was Brons toughest competition btw 
No wonder Bron had real estate in the finals during that time.
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He'd be one of the best SFs in the 90s
Y’all don’t get tired of this man smh
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and the PG Pacers lolThis was Brons toughest competition btw
He just had a performance where he put up 9-straight points in double OT.
I think a lot of y’all are underrating his ability, and more to the point, are really quite contradictive when you speak about past styles of play in relation to today’s game. If he came up in the 90s, y’all would not be disrespecting him like this.
Dan Majerle, John Starks, Jeff Hornacek, Steve Smith, Latrell Spreewell, Glen Robinson, Glen Rice, Sean Elliot, Detleff Schrempf, Glen Rice, Mitch Richmond, Chris Mullin, old ass Dumars and Wilkins
He'd be one of the best wings of that era
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lol such a dumb comment. It’s pointless to argue. The game evolves, but Demar was inspired by guys from the 90s.Dan Majerle, John Starks, Jeff Hornacek, Steve Smith, Latrell Spreewell, Glen Robinson, Glen Rice, Sean Elliot, Detleff Schrempf, Glen Rice, Mitch Richmond, Chris Mullin, old ass Dumars and Wilkins
He'd be one of the best wings of that era
Can’t just take nikkas and throw them 20 years in the past. shyt don’t work that way
DeMar is really good. Pop made him a more complete offensive player later in his career. I think had he added the playmaking ability that he gained in San Antonio earlier in his career with his elite athleticism at his peak he could have led a team to a finals appearance maybe.
If you build roster around prime DeMar or 1st Year in Chicago DeMar with a top 5 defensive unit around him and good shooting he's going to do damage.
When he's in rhythm he's damn near unstoppable when he's at his spots. This may be a weird take to some, but that Sixers team that AI went to the Finals is how I envision you get the most out of a team with DeMar as your #1 Option.
He's good enough offensively to put your team on his back... He's also a foul merchant. He can generate points.
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