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I’m not here to defend Wiseman, that debate is exhausting . My posts today are only about you using Wiseman as a scapegoat as to why Kuminga looks below average to start the season.
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I gave you the games where they played together. If u wanna argue semantics, fine. FOUR of the seven games, and he barely played for 2 games. Which means 4 of the 5 games he played (80 percent of his games) he is glued to wiseman. Which is still 2x more than what you said "Like, the first 2 games".
the fact of the matter is, he has still spent the lion's share of his minutes playing with wiseman, which fukks up his numbers and mins. If steph can't manage to have a positive rating with Wiseman, kuminga damn sure can't
And i've already told you, when you play most of your minutes with Wiseman, and dont have the role u thrived in last year, and get your minutes cut, it will affect your play for the worse. same exact reason Wiggins and Poole struggled when Klay came back. Same exact reason terrence Mann has been underwhelming on the clippers compared to 2 seasons ago.
I'm saying sacrificing kuminga's development and minutes just so Wiseman can play the Javale role, is dumb. Wiseman isnt the sole reason the warriors are struggling, but he is the sole reason Kuminga isnt getting his minutes
Prior to the Detroit game -
Kuminga averaged 9.2 minutes and shared the court with Wiseman for 7.9 minutes per game. Basically, nearly 90% of the time Kuminga was on the floor, Wiseman was in the same lineup.
And in those minutes they play together, Kuminga is pushed to the background and they're prioritizing Wiseman on offense.
Kuminga averaged 9.2 minutes and shared the court with Wiseman for 7.9 minutes per game. Basically, nearly 90% of the time Kuminga was on the floor, Wiseman was in the same lineup.
And in those minutes they play together, Kuminga is pushed to the background and they're prioritizing Wiseman on offense.
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And last game Kuminga got the opportunity to showcase his game without Wiseman and he looked underwhelming. We are going to keep talking in circles. Our talking points aren’t going to change until more games are played
and he'll look better once we stop sacrificing his development for WisemanAnd last game Kuminga got the opportunity to showcase his game without Wiseman and he looked underwhelming. We are going to keep talking in circles. Our talking points aren’t going to change until more games are played
mans really said "well he aint come out and look like a star after not getting consistent minutes so i guess he aint got it like that
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A one-game sample size is hardly fair to judge him on, especially given the whole team was underwhelming. Was he supposed to just suddenly turn it on after being buried on the bench in the first game he got proper minutes, in a game where the Warriors performed poorly as a group?And last game Kuminga got the opportunity to showcase his game without Wiseman and he looked underwhelming. We are going to keep talking in circles. Our talking points aren’t going to change until more games are played
We all saw what he was capable of last season when Wiseman wasn't in the way.
The last game where he got proper minutes in a stable role, back in October -
- look at how fluid the offense is with him on the floor (there's no need to abandon the system to get him the ball)
- look at how well he directs traffic on offense, finds the open man, and generates scoring opportunities for others (racking up seven assists)
- look at how well he cuts and dives when he recognizes a leak in the defense
- look at how demanding, aggressive and purposeful he is
- look at him crashing the offensive glass.
He's displaying everything that embodies Warriors basketball.
It's a shame that his development has been put on the backburner because the organization has something special with him.
- look at how fluid the offense is with him on the floor (there's no need to abandon the system to get him the ball)
- look at how well he directs traffic on offense, finds the open man, and generates scoring opportunities for others (racking up seven assists)
- look at how well he cuts and dives when he recognizes a leak in the defense
- look at how demanding, aggressive and purposeful he is
- look at him crashing the offensive glass.
He's displaying everything that embodies Warriors basketball.
It's a shame that his development has been put on the backburner because the organization has something special with him.
Yeah. My wife even noticed. Said it made her uncomfortable seeing Kuminga not know what to do or where to be. I'm specifically talking about the last game where he played with the starters. I do understand the #BlameWiseman crowd's point.
It could simply be not getting enough playing time. So far he looks slightly worse this year than last. Again, in very limited playing time.
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I think with JK the issue has always been that he has the potential to be a great defender but gets lazy on defense. I think the thing that we get lost in is comparing JK and Wiseman directly when their development plans are different. Wiseman is the only legitimate backup center .. so he is going to play. Jk has multiple people that can play the 3 or 4 , where he would slide in. So I think it's a matter of earning play by getting after it defensively.
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Who is gonna make excuses for Wiseman’s play thus far??
GET THIS MUH'fukkA OFF THE FLOOR RN!
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Wiseman is playing bad but he’s not leaving three point shooters wide open. The entire team is playing bad.
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