History of Why Other Minority Groups Will Always ‘Outwork’ Black People.

[WheresWallace]

I definitely need to read this article later.

 

[BigMan]

You can be better than me, that's fine.

What you fail or refuse to acknowledge is that in Asian culture education doesn't begin in school, it begins in the home. Asians don't depend on public schools to educate their children, they only send them there for the formal paperwork required to advance in the North American wilderness.

In Asian culture the elders and teachers (or 'guru' ) is as good as GOD. You believe the white man is God and wonder why you fukked up. Everything revolves around him for you. You're literally obsessed. So when you see a Asian person buying up the block you can't comprehend it. Instead of peeping game you want to throw salt. That's all this is really about.

Still didn't read the article and still making feeling based arguments that don't apply to me


READ
http://ftp.iza.org/dp6639.pdf
The real secret to Asian American success was not education

 

[get these nets]

idk, i think there was a big reduction in the "Chinaman taking white women" and yellow peril media depictions in the 1800s to 1950s and the images of Asians from the 60s onward. Keep in mind the US signed laws to excluse Asians from the US and then in the 20th century repealed those and brought in hundreds of thousands of immigrants and refugees

Part of the reason that they didn't go away if precisely for the reasons that mainstream culture uses the "model minority" tag....namely that Asians don't complain...even about ugly stereotypes and caricatures that their children have to see.

White people will mock others until/unless there are consequences for doing so. The overt stereotyping of Blacks didn't lessen or go away until Black people protested those images or depictions. Asians do no such thing. As a result, the mocking caricatures & stereotypes about them shifted, but never went away.
Stereotypes about Jews lessened and went away because jews own media outlets and control those images. Asians do no such thing.

I don't buy the part of the article about Asians progressed socially because the stereotypes lessened. Better answer would be that they entered professionals previously denied them that were results oriented....such as STEM fields. Person can hate Asians all day long, but if the Asian engineer can do a better job than the white....and keep his system up....the Asian guy gets the knod. Article briefly touches on them enter certain fields but doesn't expound. I think they entered fields where their proficiency mattered more than whether white people liked them or not.

 

[#1 pick]

where do you think the hatred from all races towards black people stem from? Is it jealousy, envy, or are we just targeted because of our darker complexions or maybe all of the above but what do u think it is?

Please listen to Neely Fuller. That would help you more than me simply answering this question

 

[get these nets]

STEEL SHARPENS STEEL.
I've always felt that steel sharpens steel. Meaning that if a person challenges your stance on a subject, that it actually helps you. Either it forces to you to think about how strong your stance is, or it forces you to reexamine your take.

This modern day way of discussion where person who disagrees with you is...an agent, white, etc. is nothing more than people pressing the eject button when they don't want to discuss a topic.
I think someone showed me a clip of Tarig arguing on camera with a female co host that HE hired..and then calling HER an agent after getting rid of her. That's clown shyt.

I came up seeing Louis Farrakhan on talk shows fielding questions from people who openly hated his guts. Without blinking or raising his voice, he would SHRED them to pieces with logic..and he would grin while doing it.There are clips of Malcolm X doing the same thing decades before that.

Anything a person writes or says here can and should be checked.Keeps people honest and sharp.
This concept of "oh, you disagree, you're a cac" is CLOWN shyt.
A troll is one thing but if a person legitimately questions something you've written, it's easy to defend it if you really believe it.

 

[BigMan]

Part of the reason that they didn't go away if precisely for the reasons that mainstream culture uses the "model minority" tag....namely that Asians don't complain...even about ugly stereotypes and caricatures that their children have to see.

White people will mock others until/unless there are consequences for doing so. The overt stereotyping of Blacks didn't lessen or go away until Black people protested those images or depictions. Asians do no such thing. As a result, the mocking caricatures & stereotypes about them shifted, but never went away.
Stereotypes about Jews lessened and went away because jews own media outlets and control those images. Asians do no such thing.

I don't buy the part of the article about Asians progressed socially because the stereotypes lessened. Better answer would be that they entered professionals previously denied them that were results oriented....such as STEM fields. Person can hate Asians all day long, but if the Asian engineer can do a better job than the white....and keep his system up....the Asian guy gets the knod. Article briefly touches on them enter certain fields but doesn't expound. I think they entered fields where their proficiency mattered more than whether white people liked them or not.

Thats valid. I would be interested in hearing from the perspective of Asian Americans that have been in the US for generations on the social aspect.

 

[HopeKillCure]

Part of the reason that they didn't go away if precisely for the reasons that mainstream culture uses the "model minority" tag....namely that Asians don't complain...even about ugly stereotypes and caricatures that their children have to see.

White people will mock others until/unless there are consequences for doing so. The overt stereotyping of Blacks didn't lessen or go away until Black people protested those images or depictions. Asians do no such thing. As a result, the mocking caricatures & stereotypes about them shifted, but never went away.
Stereotypes about Jews lessened and went away because jews own media outlets and control those images. Asians do no such thing.

I don't buy the part of the article about Asians progressed socially because the stereotypes lessened. Better answer would be that they entered professionals previously denied them that were results oriented....such as STEM fields. Person can hate Asians all day long, but if the Asian engineer can do a better job than the white....and keep his system up....the Asian guy gets the knod. Article briefly touches on them enter certain fields but doesn't expound. I think they entered fields where their proficiency mattered more than whether white people liked them or not.

Y’all are being delusional here. The research controlled for education and they weren’t allowed to enter job fields because they were treated like blacks. It didn’t matter how educated or skilled they were, white people were not letting them have Shyte and when they tried to do for self white people burned down their Chinatown and created laws to fukk them up.

The article states for the 900th time that your explanation is exactly what the article debunks. The article found that when racism ( not fukking stereotyping nonsense) decreased do to government propaganda push to lessen the hate and the laws against Asians, they were freely allowed to compete and started earning what they (unlike blacks) should have been allowed to earn in a fair and equal playing field.

It wasn’t until white people through government propaganda started to buying into the “model minority” propaganda did they reduce the hateful actions that those Asian stereotypes had always been used to justify. Negative stories vanished and positive ( to whites) stereotypes started to be the only prominent depictions. This was done as a strategy to be used to combat protests and demands for rights from blacks. Racism towards Asians was lessened, that was the driving factor.

The same thing happen after the Korean War. South Korea received huge investments from America and was propped up in the East as a model of the success you would have if you were Anti-Communism. Most of Asia was Communist at the time, so it was important for Propaganda that South Korea be top 3 in the region socio-economically while North Korea could be contrasted as a socio-economic failure solely on the fact they were Communists.

 

[Jesus Bhrist]

Please listen to Neely Fuller. That would help you more than me simply answering this question

I'm familiar with the Elder Neely Fuller & regularly listen to him on VICTOR OF RWS

Just wanted to hear it in the OP own words & that was suffice

 

[Kenny West]

Doubtful he is black.

This thread is low key exposing some of our hidden non-black brothers and sisters in “yo yo yo black face online”

how confident are you in this assertion? If you aint putting your account up, kindly shut the fukk up.

this fakkit @Kenny West stay on some c00n shyt

you obsessing over men who don't know you again?

 

[HopeKillCure]

You believe the white man is God and wonder why you fukked up. Everything revolves around him for you. You're literally obsessed. So when you see a Asian person buying up the block you can't comprehend it. Instead of peeping game you want to throw salt. That's all this is really about.

You are delusional too.

Your women are the biggest white male bedwenches on the planet. Your whole cultures are obsessed with “westerners” and you even do surgeries to look like westerners. Your anime characters look like white people more than Asians. Men have accepted the role as sidekicks to white men and don’t even date White women now because the cacs you are obsessed with paint you all as weak beta males who are bad at everything physically and whose women want them.

We are obsessed...your people are sidekicks to white people and your men are seen as weak and cockolds to white men. You are delusional as fukk. What are you buying up, you are not in control, you tippy toe around whites. The only people with a collective backbone against whites in Asia are the Japanese, the rest roll out red carpets and grovel.

 

[HopeKillCure]

how confident are you in this assertion? If you aint putting your account up, kindly shut the fukk up.

d?

No fakkit, I don’t care if you are white or Asian or some lame ass c00n.

I just prefer to honestly address a black or non-black person. This seems difficult for you, do you have a habit of lying?

Why it so hard for you to prove who you actual are or do you like the idea of hiding behind a screen with your trolling?

 

[get these nets]

Thats valid. I would be interested in hearing from the perspective of Asian Americans that have been in the US for generations on the social aspect.

Look up some interviews of Jeremy Lin talking about the ugly racism he experienced, and from whom, when he played college basketball . Long as Asians keep quiet it keeps happening.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Still didn't read the article and still making feeling based arguments that don't apply to me


READ
http://ftp.iza.org/dp6639.pdf
The real secret to Asian American success was not education

I read the article, as a matter of fact someone else posted a similar article on here before.

All this study says is that Asians pretty much forced whites to respect their hustle. So what?

People who try to discount the influence education has on asian success are delusional, period. People used to make fun of Asians for it, now they're denying it? Gtfoh.

 

[HopeKillCure]

All this study says is that Asians pretty much forced whites to respect their hustle. So what?
.

This delusional white sidekick can’t read

 

[Kenny West]

do you feel the title is accurate or misleading?

I feel it's deliberately misleading....and it's written in a pandering manner...like some of Tim Wise's articles.

I think a person can disagree with points and inferences.For example...I still disagree with the author's claim that anti asian stereotypes in popular media went away for the timeframe discussed. I think that part is false and cited reasons why.

It's false. Asians were still racially mocked in media before during and after civil rights. I'm still waiting on OP or somebody to provide proof of this memo that went out to white folks to stop being racist toward asians. People were still using the term Oriental in the 90's ffs.

The misconception is this:

The author is trying to debunk the talking point of "If america is so racist how did asians get wealthy" used against black folks from Asian American POV.

All the shyt the author wrote is unnecessary, that point is debunked from the fact that the country wasn't proactively discriminating against asians post civil rights as they do black people. Racist laws targeting black folks persisted to the 90's and beyond, for asians the 1930's at the latest.

It words it in a way that says the gains of asians came from whites deciding to let them get richer over the course of a time period that just so happens to cover the periods immediately before, during and immediately after civil rights.

More telling is that it focuses on per household income rather than hiring discrimination and frames the changes from the civil rights era as "slow dismantling of discriminatory institutions after World War II, and the softening of racist prejudices" instead of straight up referencing that segregation and hiring discrimination was downright outlawed in that period.