HipHopDX.com asks: Has the south ruined hip hop?

[Drake's Tan]

The south has kept hip hop alive for the past few years.
I like boom bap but got to call a spade a spade.

 

[scarlxrd]

Did... the south ruin hip hop? What fukking kind of question is that?

I can't even.

 

[scarlxrd]

The coli has multiple threads on this same topic daily. But at least those threads read better. . This article is trash. The south has been keeping rap afloat for over a decade now. It's one of the reasons why it's the most popular genre in the world

If it wasn't for Uncle Luke and his push in the South back in the early '90s, I don't know where the fukk Hip Hop would be right now.

 

[SteelCitySoldier]

As much as I fukked wit No Limit and Master P them nikkaz started this shyt. Bangin beats, catchy hooks, flooding the market and mostly trash ass rappers. They started it and then Oil John finished it.

 

[Love Sosa]

I'm from the south. I am tired of the cheap sounding, overwhelming amount of turn up records that are oversaturating my life. Yes, I enjoy a lot of them, but not 24/7. None of these shyts are going to be as timeless and crisp as The Blueprint. It is what it is. I like my rappers to actually rap rap. These people have drawn everything from Lil Wayne besides his lyrical ability. Yes, the melodies are nice, but I can't understand a fukking word you're saying.

In the south, we have dumb trends too. Lean is a dumb trend. Double cup is a pointless dumb trend. Etc etc. Lots of sus things too

New York hip hop just needs its own updated sound and identity or something. I'd like it to be cool again to focus more on lyrics and dropping a hot verse rather than slurring your words over a distorted 808 until you string together a struggle melodyThe south has been big since the mid 00s but it peaked in 2005 and New York I would say started to decline in 2004.

 

[Millions]

this nikka said chicago nikkas sound like South nikkas u never been to chicago im assuming ...

 

[Biscayne]

It was ruined when regionalism stopped. Different parts of the country brought you different sounds, slang, moods, etc. Now, cats don't have an identity. The south clearly does and that's why it's so dominate. Drake is southern influeneced but he has identity. And I'm not a fan. But he has a sound, a way to him. We need more that. Same with T.D.E.

You right. As much as we may hate Drake, that OVO sound is pretty distinct. It's not just endless trap when it comes to Aubrey.

 

[Biscayne]

I'm from up north and southern hip hop is the only thing keeping the genre alive right now

Any article that starts with this "pillars of hip hop culture i.e. Graf breaking etc" is so fukking played, the angle is so played. It's been so long and so many of these same articles written

We are fukking tired of it.

I'm born and raised in the South, and I think the writer of the article has a good point. I don't even get offended or angry at these articles anymore. I really do feel like there's an oversaturation of Trap Music down here. It really feels like there isn't much room for anything that deviates from that Trap Box. It feels suffocating at times. And I actually like Trap Music, but Southern hip hop and the industry down here, isn't above reproach. I love these convos!!!

 

[Biscayne]

Don't get me wrong NY rappers have stepped up lately but remember the mid 2000s?

I agree. The mid 2000s were way worse than today from a hip hop standpoint. I feel like the mid 00's through the late 00's(2004-2009) was the lowest point for hip-hop. So much trash in that era.

 

[Biscayne]

I love southern music...

but it has "lost value" over the years...because labels threw artist development outta the window and looked for "cheap thrills"....

In saying that, these labels are going down there looking for any and everyone who "raps" and can make them a few bucks without actually putting effort into them financially...Or even caring about them talent wise...
So a group who could be in the vein of UGK wont get the time of day while a 2 chainz knockoff will be in NYC with a deal on the table...

We might fukk with a record, but 2 years from now, they wont be cared about...

Cats like 2 Pistols, Jibbs,hell even Plies to lesser extent are done..

Look what happened to Migos
Look at RHQ
Look at thugga's situation...

these labels sign them to cheap deals and have no idea what to do with them...They dont care about the quality..they just hope for a hit and have the after...

Luckily thugga had (yeah i know)to kinda get the right setup for thugga to really take off..

Cash Money might be the only label who actually puts SOME effort into artist development...

The south has had alot of success,but at what cost?

Truth. Alot of these Southern artist come with their couple hits, and end up in debt and dissappear. That whole Southern 106&Park Roster from 2005-2010 have all had short times in the limelight. Jibbs, Plies, Tay Dizm, the not famous half of Playaz Circle, Dem Franchise Boyz, D4L, Crime Mob, and even Trinidad James got hot than flamed out. No real artist development. Just get hot and get gone.

 

[50CentStan]

How can anyone blame a region or sound? the consumer ruined hip hop, thats all it is, people want ignrance, something they can ride to, smash to, be in the club and bounce to.

 

[360dagod]

How can anyone blame a region or sound? the consumer ruined hip hop, thats all it is, people want ignrance, something they can ride to, smash to, be in the club and bounce to.

The Average consumer only goes by what they exposed to..

Rappers who were doing the opposite were still selling records because they had a somewhat reasonable chance to be heard as much as the alternative..

Its easier and cheaper to promote a random southern rapper who has an 808 and catchy hook on his record..

Labels at this point dont want to do any legwork..

They want everything prepackaged...

 

[SirBiatch]

I agree. The mid 2000s were way worse than today from a hip hop standpoint. I feel like the mid 00's through the late 00's(2004-2009) was the lowest point for hip-hop. So much trash in that era.

fukk outta here.

04-09 was trash, but this era is more trash. Why are people still pretending that we're not at the lowest point in hip hop history? Major avoidance issues

 

[SirBiatch]

THIS is the chit that is killing hip-hop!!

There is very little energy and innovation in modern "hip hop". Don't be fooled

 

[Mr. Negative]

the south ain't ruined shyt.

Record labels saw how The South's artists were being supported sales wise and started pushing for that same kind of sound. Everybody copied the shyt in a cash grab.

People are quick to say "blame the people buying what they want to hear" but they don't realize the south has ALWAYS supported southern artists.

Non-independent artists only care about record sales because of bragging rights and ASCAP/Royalty checks.


Now fast forward years and years past the point where the south was the only thing "selling", everybody hops on the dikk of whatever style of beats and rhyme pattern or autotune or whatever....

it's not the souths fault.

It's the fault of greedy nikkas who's "creativity" ain't selling and major label.

I'm waiting on the article that claims 360 deals and artists being broke is the souths fault.