Why are you talking about culture like it's a pair of pants or a shirt you can just put on and take off?
actually no, im talking about culture as what it is, its an amorphous abstract concept that cant always be explained in concrete terms
you keep trying to put in in concrete terms, but there is a limit to how concretely you can explain culture
cultural cohesion means exactly what it says, it means people share the same culture
Culture is a product of circumstance.
wow, really? thats a really deep enlightening statement, i never knew that, thanks for the information
There are an abundance of different cultural norms that various different types of peoples in America adhere to, I'm not just talking separation by race. The culture of whites in Huntsville, AL is pretty different from that in say Seattle to a large extent.
yeah, but how does that contradict what i am saying?
overall there is a high level of cultural cohesion between somebody from Al and somebody from Seattle relative to other countries, there are regional differences inside the US and if those regional differences increase (in other words the level of cultural cohesion decreases) then the united states will dissipate, thats why we had a civil war
so for the united states to stay strong its important to increase the level of cultural cohesion between people in AL and people in seattle, or at least make sure it doesnt increase
again im befuddled as to what is controversial about what i am saying about cultural cohesion, im not stating my personal opinion as much as im pointing out a basic fact of state building, its self evident that cultural cohesion is important to a nation state and lack of it will lead to decline or dissipation of the nation state
You're not defining exactly what specific cultural aspects and degree of this so-called "cultural cohesion" is acceptable and what specific cultural aspects and degree of it will cause this drastic collapse of society you're referring or even defining it. "People sharing the same culture" is vague, empty rhetoric, specifically when you're talking about black peoples' culture vs. mainstream culture. In many ways blacks do share the same culture as white Americans, and in other ways they do not. Again, you're not being specific, but I see it's a failed task to try and coerce you to do so.
because that is to broad of a topic, its impossible to know how much cultural cohesion is needed to keep a country together. there are too many factors involved
so its deliberately vague, if i was able to make a formula to predict the exact level of cultural cohesion needed to keep a nation state together then i would have won a nobel prize for it, there is no concrete answer to that and i doubt there will ever be
i narrowed it down to education culture, for the record i have never said anything about white people, i simply referred to mainstream american culture, you are more than welcome to equate the two, but for the record i never did
i have asserted before that the educational performance of blacks and latinos is related to culture, i have long said this
the question was asked is america still #1, i simply said that if blacks and latinos do not assimilate our views of education with the mainstream views america will decline
what more specificity do you need other than cultural views of education?
Again, that's not cultural assimilation. You can describe the lack of emphasis on education among some or many blacks as a cultural defect or deficiency, but correcting that is not the same thing as cultural assimilation and becoming part of "one culture" as you said on the podcast.
i dont see any reason to argue about semantics, i apologize profusely for describing integration of black and latinos into the education system as assimilation
so using your vocabulary, what i meant to say is that we need to correct the cultural deficiencies of blacks and latinos
This is really sounds like some c00n shyt you're talking. Blacks not valuing education enough because they're not assimilated directly implies that valuing education is a province or inherent characteristic of white people, as if emphasis on education is white people culture. America as a whole doesn't value all the much. We're a pretty anti-intellectual society compared to many other industrialized nations. You are in essence co-signing anti-academic blacks who say getting educated is "acting white."
you can interpret it that way if you want, like i said, i have never said anything about white people, but you are free to make that association if you want
if black and latinos assimilated into mainstream culture then that would imply that american culture is not a white culture, my point about assimilation is that american culture isnt a white culture
so i think you are confused, im in essence saying american culture is not white and if it continues to be defined as white, america will collapse
There are plenty of black people who get educated without "culturally assimilating." Like this guy I know who is a computer programmer for a defense contractor and an entrepeneur who owns two other businesses and drives a Jaguar and a Benz. He's a regular dude with all the normal cultural nuances of most black people I know. But you're shytting on his culture and telling him and he should be somebody else.
sorry, im not interested in sharing anecdotal stories, i dont believe in using anecdotal evidence