Hi key did the xbox ruin console gaming or enhance it

[MeachTheMonster]

The option for custom maps has pretty much disappeared due to the dlc business model no its not all micrsofts fault but they did start it

What console game had custom maps before Xbox existed

And you do realize mods and custom maps/content are available on Xbox?

One of the pillars of Halo for years has been the Forge where people create custom maps/content.

Do you even know what the fukk your are talking about breh??

Sony stans wild

 

[Fctftl]

What console game had custom maps before Xbox existed

And you do realize mods and custom maps/content are available on Xbox?

One of the pillars of Halo for years has been the Forge where people create custom maps/content.

Do you even know what the fukk your are talking about breh??

Sony stans wild

 

[Zebruh]

Enhanced it.

Xbox Live was the standard for online console gaming. The 360 perfected it IMO. Party chat, Netflix, etc.

 

[SymbolicOne09]

What console game had custom maps before Xbox existed

And you do realize mods and custom maps/content are available on Xbox?

One of the pillars of Halo for years has been the Forge where people create custom maps/content.

Do you even know what the fukk your are talking about breh??

Sony stans wild

Im saying before microsoft we had free user created content available. Since dlc the mindset has change and 95% of companies dont allow custom maps/server etc .

Heres an example of microsoft being microsoft Microsoft Forces Valve to Price Left 4 Dead DLC on 360

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Im saying before microsoft we had free user created content available. Since dlc the mindset has change and 95% of companies dont allow custom maps/server etc .

What free user content were you playing on consoles before Microsoft??

If anything Microsoft is the one who brought free user content to consoles

Heres an example of microsoft being microsoft Microsoft Forces Valve to Price Left 4 Dead DLC on 360

“We had the one DLC out for free. And I think... they have to look and say, wow, we're kind of being unfair to everybody else if these guys can do that.”

No store is gonna just let you post up products in their store for free. It devalues everything else. That’s business 101.

And has nothing to do with your previous assertion that paid dlc is Microsoft’s fault as paid DLC was already a thing. Valve was already charging for DLC for their other games. As were lots of devs on steam.

You are reaching with a bunch of nonsense here

 

[Rice N Beans]

Outside of Live-style online and charging for, not much else. Depends on how much weight you have invested for that. I consider the requirement of charging for DLC to be a huge negative, especially when you look at the great offenders that is EA.

If you want breakout console firsts, then Sega takes the crown with online, VoIP, web integration, and we should all be thankful for that pioneering. On PC, you had things like MPlayer in the mid 90s that would be precursors to things like Steam. It also had wild features like matchmaking and VoIP before the end of the decade.

 

[SymbolicOne09]

What free user content were you playing on consoles before Microsoft??

If anything Microsoft is the one who brought free user content to consoles



“We had the one DLC out for free. And I think... they have to look and say, wow, we're kind of being unfair to everybody else if these guys can do that.”

No store is gonna just let you post up products in their store for free. It devalues everything else. That’s business 101.

And has nothing to do with your previous assertion that paid dlc is Microsoft’s fault as paid DLC was already a thing. Valve was already charging for DLC for their other games. As were lots of devs on steam.

You are reaching with a bunch of nonsense here

thats the whole point microsoft charged for a peer 2 peer service.
They conviced ya that instead of letting the community provide endless content like in the past with counter strike half life etc.. they were gonna sucker consumers into paying 15$ for map packs 20$ for character skins etc.

Regarding that other article valve wasnt charging for content because pc gamers wasnt having it. Remember when microsoft tried to charge pc gamers for xbox live and that shyt got bushed so quick, yet stans like you think its acceptable

 

[Cladyclad]

Ruined it

 

[MeachTheMonster]

thats the whole point microsoft charged for a peer 2 peer service.

First off you weren’t paying for just P2P gaming. You were paying for a host of online and community features that were available nowhere else at the time. All features that Microsoft innovated into the industry and we all now view them as synonyms with gaming currently.

Microsoft spent lots of money to provide these features. Why wouldn’t they charge for them?

They conviced ya that instead of letting the community provide endless content like in the past with counter strike half life etc.. they were gonna sucker consumers into paying 15$ for map packs 20$ for character skins etc.

And now You all over the place and not making sense.

What does paid DLC have to do with paying for Xbox Live?

And one more time you keep ignoring the question.

What free user content were you playing on consoles before Microsoft.

And again $15 map packs and skins existed well before the Microsoft store was a thing.

Valve were selling them just like lots of others. Half life had plenty of paid expansions.

Regarding that other article valve wasnt charging for content because pc gamers wasnt having it. Remember when microsoft tried to charge pc gamers for xbox live and that shyt got bushed so quick, yet stans like you think its acceptable

This is a damn lie and you are a damn dummy. PC gamers been paying for extra content, maps, skins for long before Microsoft had anything to do with it.

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

Everyone brought something to the table i used to just be a Nintendo fanboy
but I appreciate what every company brings/brought

Sony - strong IPs and a big library

Nintendo - Timeless IPs Family friendly local multiplayer new control innovations

Microsoft - strong online architecture( put in place a lot of things we have today messaging voice chat)and gaming subscription service

Sega - Great classic IPs does what nintendon’t started online gaming with the Dreamcast

Atari - Pretty much the first home video game console started it all

 

[Ineedmoney504]

What console game had custom maps before Xbox existed

And you do realize mods and custom maps/content are available on Xbox?

One of the pillars of Halo for years has been the Forge where people create custom maps/content.

Do you even know what the fukk your are talking about breh??

Sony stans wild

no not mention fallout has done mods like no other game ever on consoles

 

[daze23]

Im saying before microsoft we had free user created content available.

it was on PC, and it still is

 

[JNew]

yep Microsoft xbox console ruined gaming forever, yep, ok, lets all move on.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Without paying for the servers we would have shytty psn ps3 like quality. I’ll pay for a services before I have it for free and it can be hacked where the service is down for 2 months.

psn showed that free service was shytty

fukk dem

 

[5n0man]

it was on PC, and it still is

The amount of free user generated content out right now far surpass what was available back in 1999.

It sounds like dude is mad that pc arena shooters aren't as popular as they once were and is somehow blaming Microsoft for making everything more accessible on consoles.