What exactly is going on? So what does this mean for the flash movie and that aqua man sequel? Where does Matt reeves fit in all this? Black adam and Shazam? I’m so confused
Henry Cavill Not Returning as Superman after leaving Witcher
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The Batman is not part of the Snyderverse. It continues untouched. One would assume Joker does as well. Everything else is tossed in the trash. Some of those movies might still get released but the Snyderverse is dead. Nothing official but I'd say it is safe to assume The Rock's Black Adam is included with that. The entire Justice League is being recasted and and Jason Momoa sounds like he's going to be switched to Lobo.
Nigerianwonder
Superstar
You can repeat this dumb take all you want but its not true. The synderverse movies made tons more money than the trash they put out afterwards with the exception of Joker. The Suicide squad by Gunn was trash too and did not make back its budget and was one of the worst performing DC films. Gunns only major successes where tied to the marvel machine. Synderverse was a proven money maker. They got rid of that for something unproven, from a guy with a DC bomb already under his belt.
Nigerianwonder
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There is really no point in releasing flash aquaman or the shazam sequel since they are all taking place in universe going nowhere. Why would I want to get further invested in these stories? DC is stupid and sabotaging these films. The hype wont be there and they will all bomb.
EzekelRAGE
Superstar
Flash movie will work, they just gonna cut out all the stuff that was hinting at more Snyderverse stuff. I think the plot of the movie was Barry haaving to team with different versions of himself.
Aquaman 2/Shazam 2 will get released and should be ok, but A2 is Mamoa's last time as Aquaman. Idk what they plan to do with Shazam. I never watched it, but I assume it had not ties to the Snyderverse or at least very minimal ties?
Suicide Squad came out during COVID day 1 on HBO Max. Snyder movies were critically panned and shat on by fans to the point he was removed from the DCEU. If they were as successful as you seem to want to make it sound where he at now? Where is Justice League 2?
Nigerianwonder
Superstar
Point is Gunn has no track record of any successful DC films. This is not Marvel. What worked there wont work here. Gunn's marvel movies were mid also. He just benefited from the Marvel system and being critical to the overall story arc.
Half the critics where biased Marvel stans anyway. The audience scores were actually decent on the films yall hate on the most like Batman v superman. Plus They still had butts in the seats which what matters and now they dont even have that. Synders movies made money at the end of the day and what they put out since hasnt. How can there be a justice league 2 when they butchered Justice league 1 with whedon? And when Synder was finally able to show his intended version of Justice league those same critics called it a masterpiece and it was a hit with fans.
Numbers dont lie and the money the Synder movies made is not debatable. Financially the synder films were succesful. Most of their movies post synder have lost a lot of money. The numbers are the numbers. The problem wasn't Synder. It was the executives thinking they had to match Marvel right away and being reactionary and meddaling in the directors vision that caused the issues.
Imagine if Marvel shut everything down and reboot cause of that trash thor love and thunder which was critically panned. You know how many bad or mid Marvel movies they put out lately. They are still sticking with their plan regardless.
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It's hilarious cause we all know this is coming
EzekelRAGE
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Saying Snyder made money........aint saying much when he has the 2 most popular superheroes ever in Batman and Superman to work with, Wonder Woman is top 5 most popular. It would be impossible to not make money.
All that talk about money and Aqauman the only one to hit a billi
BvS audience score
Audiences Give Batman v Superman Same CinemaScore as Catwoman, Green Lantern - IGN
Moviegoers have spoken, and Zack Snyder's latest doesn't quite stack up against Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy.
Compared to Gunn's DC film
Audience fukked with it so much he was able to make a spinoff series with Peacemaker.
Execs messed with it so much they gave him the whole DC Film division.
You want to keep it a buck..........Snyder started the downward trend and fukked up the DC Universe with BvS, all the stuff going on behind the scenes with JL was just the nail in the coffin. Your whole argument hinges on the financial side because that's the only
It's not a coincidence that most the stuff outside of Snyder's hands/Universe is doing good. That's why the cutting all ties to his stuff.
Joker - Critical/Commercial Success
Batman - Critical/Commercial Success + getting spinoffs
He just did what worked at Marvel(Team up of D listers) and made it work with DC(Team up of D listers). Hell, he more prepared for the task than Snyder was since he has real experience working with a universe.
On his movies being mid - The audience scores for GotG and GotG 2 were 92% and 87% respectfully on rotten tomatoes. Along with "putting butts in seats. "
You in the very small minority of fans that's gonna miss the Snyderverse. Batman V Superman was dreadful and didn't even crack 1 billion while stuff like Captain Marvel did better numbers.
Trapperman Dave
Basil Fawty
People letting their feelings cloud their judgement objectively speaking what synder was doing didn’t work BVS has too many Why? What for? Questions attached to it. In theory what he was attempting was good but the execution was trash. Even though i can watch BvS the fine details about are head scratching
Nigerianwonder
Superstar
Saying Snyder made money........aint saying much when he has the 2 most popular superheroes ever in Batman and Superman to work with, Wonder Woman is top 5 most popular. It would be impossible to not make money.
All that talk about money and Aqauman the only one to hit a billi
BvS audience score
Audiences Give Batman v Superman Same CinemaScore as Catwoman, Green Lantern - IGN
Moviegoers have spoken, and Zack Snyder's latest doesn't quite stack up against Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy.www.ign.com
Compared to Gunn's DC film
Audience fukked with it so much he was able to make a spinoff series with Peacemaker.
Execs messed with it so much they gave him the whole DC Film division.
You want to keep it a buck..........Snyder started the downward trend and fukked up the DC Universe with BvS, all the stuff going on behind the scenes with JL was just the nail in the coffin. Your whole argument hinges on the financial side because that's the only
It's not a coincidence that most the stuff outside of Snyder's hands/Universe is doing good. That's why the cutting all ties to his stuff.
Joker - Critical/Commercial Success
Batman - Critical/Commercial Success + getting spinoffs
He just did what worked at Marvel(Team up of D listers) and made it work with DC(Team up of D listers). Hell, he more prepared for the task than Snyder was since he has real experience working with a universe.
On his movies being mid - The audience scores for GotG and GotG 2 were 92% and 87% respectfully on rotten tomatoes. Along with "putting butts in seats. "
Let me help you out.
Batman v superman - $873 million. Success ( budget was $300 million)
The suicide squad - $168 million. Failure... (Budget was 185 million)
Audience didnt fukk with Suicide squad cause nobody went to see it.
Nigerianwonder
Superstar
Then why was the justice league snyder cut released? How could such a minority force the studios hand?
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
It also came out during a pandemic, was released on HBOMax at the same time of its theater run and also didn't feature a new Batman and Wonder Woman.
I think Warner Bros. Took those factors into account. Just saying. . .