Hebrew Israelite videos

[Czar]

7.Yup them counterfeit Jews for the most part. Those of the synagogue of satan, who converted to Judaism about 690 AD. Im well aware of Blacks including arabs, tribesmen and Hebrews (all didnt follow the laws of Yah hence the curses) having a their part in the slave trade. But dont play like it was comparably major.

The Ashkenazi jews have nothing to do with the Khazarian empire which converted to Judaism b.


www.youtube.com/watch?v= tnIEsf_klCg
www.youtube.com/watch?v= tF2mU6LDZ_g
www.youtube.com/watch?v= HzuZzlTiqdw
(Combine each link to watch)

http://rense.com/general48/Palestinians.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars

Controversy surrounds modern theories on a hypothetical Khazarian diaspora's possible impact on the formation of Ashkenazi Jewry, an argument that has lent itself occasionally also to polemics regarding Antisemitism .

Counterfeit Jews applies to men who claim the white race is superior to all others. That the 'true jews" were all white people who went to England.

www.youtube.com/watch?v= z6FdJrHhDu8
(Combine to watch)


Or the other counterfiet Jews comprised of misguided brothers who preach on street corners screaming "The white man is the devil". The same ones who had an elder (Ahrayah) falsely predict that Jesus was coming back on Jan 1st 2000 to kill the white race.

www.youtube.com/watch?v= A1g9kmjiW8
(Combine to watch)


The same cult I left.

The one you wanna defend, cause you're too ignorant to even realize it.

8.VERSE 36: YAH SHALL BRING YOU, AND YOUR KING WHICH YOU SHALL SET OVER YOU UNTO A NATION WHICH NEITHER YOU NOR YOUR FATHERS HAVE KNOWN: AND THERE SHALL YOU, SERVE GODS (Religions) WOOD AND STONE. This Verse says a nation unknown. Meaning it couldnt be Egypt.

Another guy with reading comprehension issues.


Deuteronomy 28:68

"The LORD will bring you back to Egypt in ships, by the way about which I spoke to you, 'You will never see it again!' And there you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but there will be no buyer."

But concerning verse 36

Did the Jews know Rome during the time of Moses?


Wood

Stone

Btw...who sent the Jews into Egypt as slaves?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(70)




Deuteronomy 28:49

49 The Lord will bring a nation against you from afar, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flies, a nation whose language you will not understand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquila_(Roman)

An aquila, or eagle, was the standard of a Roman legion. A legionary known as an aquilifer, or eagle-bearer, carried this standard. Each legion carried one eagle. The eagle was extremely important to the Roman military, beyond merely being a symbol of a legion. A lost standard was considered an extremely grave occurrence, and the Roman military often went to great lengths to both protect a standard and to recover it if lost.

(46) AND THEY SHALL BE UPON YOU FOR A SIGN AND FOR A WONDER, AND UPON YOUR SEED FOREVER.Forever ended a long time ago then huh

9.AND THEY SHALL BE UPON YOU FOR A SIGN AND FOR A WONDER, AND UPON YOUR SEED FOREVER. Forever ended a long time ago then
Yea I used the same verse twicep

And you still didn't get it. The curses serve as a sign and wonder, both as a warning and a punishment. But let's not forget who redeems all from the curse (which is sin) when they repent and believe in him so they can receive eternal life (Galatians 3:10-13, Romans 5, Acts 17:16-31).




Furthermore... verses 47 & 48 state:

47 “Because you did not serve the Lord your God with joy and gladness of heart, for the abundance of everything, 48 therefore you shall serve your enemies, whom the Lord will send against you, in hunger, in thirst, in nakedness, and in need of everything; and He will put a yoke of iron on your neck until He has destroyed you.

Which was fulfilled in Jeremiah 28:13-14

13 “Go and tell Hananiah, saying, ‘Thus says the Lord: “You have broken the yokes of wood, but you have made in their place yokes of iron.” 14 For thus says the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel: “I have put a yoke of iron on the neck of all these nations, that they may serve Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon; and they shall serve him. I have given him the beasts of the field also.”’

 

[Czar]

10.The people who enslaved them thought differently as the Muslims called them Yahoodee (House of Israel)

Lol once again, taken from Hebrewism of West africa.

From the same author who also claimed the Ashanti descended from the Egyptians.

Yahudi certainly is a name the Muslims use to identify Jews with, but again, you seem to be missing the part where those communities were established by migrant Jews and local converts.

But you seem unaware of the religion that was most prominent in West Africa amongst different tribes.

http://spice.stanford.edu/docs/the_...orm_from_the_eighth_to_the_twentieth_century/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Africa#West_Africa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hausa_people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fula_people


During the 1800's the small Jewish communities in West Africa still consisted of migrant traders and local converts. The last Rabbi of Timbuktu was a Morrocan Jew named Mordechai Aby Serour.

And guess what?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_o...ai_Aby_Serour_and_the_last_Timbuktu_community

He wasn't black b.

Btw... Yehudi in hebrew means praised. Children of Israel in hebrew is B'nei Yisrael. In arabic it's Banī Israil.

I didnt watch that video

That's cool. I haven't watched any of yours either

 

[Czar]

Lol hang it up. You grasping for straws like they are going outta style.

You're tap dancing around my question Gregory Hines. Why weren't the Jews in Spain, Greece or Rome confused for black folk?

You lost at the very moment when you said Egyptians were black and couldnt refute how Moses, Joseph (of the original 12 tribes), Jesus Mary and Joseph were all mistaken for Egyptians. You then post a video of the Hyskos and their Hieroglyphs depict them as black skinned people with afros

Mary and Joseph were mistaken for Egyptians now???


Anyways back to the Hyksos

www.youtube.com/watch?v= GJEpiWlqB_s
(Combine to watch)

Again, I don't agree with Ashra Kwesi's opinion concerning the bible at all, but he hit it out the park in pointing out the Hyksos were different than the Egyptians. Even showed the hieroglyphic figure the Kemets used to identify the Hyksos with.

Plus...

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/279251/Hyksos
Hyksos, group of mixed Semitic-Asiatics who immigrated into Egypt’s delta region and gradually settled there during the 18th century bce. Beginning about 1630, a series of Hyksos kings ruled northern Egypt as the 15th dynasty (c. 1630–1523 bce; seeancient Egypt: The Second Intermediate period). The name Hyksos was used by the Egyptian historian Manetho(fl. 300 bce), who, according to the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus (fl. 1st century ce), translated the word as “king-shepherds” or “captive shepherds.” Josephus himself wished to demonstrate the great antiquity of the Jews and thus identified the Hyksos with the Hebrews of the Bible

Good point he wasnt offering his opinion, that was an oversight on my part... But answer this why would MANY OTHER Romans say or think it is in the realm of possibility that the Hebrews were a race of Ethiopian origin. not unless they were black as well.

Nope. He was quoting the writers of the many regions they were conquering, which included North Africa. Here are the other claims.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/tacitus.html
1. Some say that the Jews were fugitives from the island of Crete, who settled on the nearest coast of Africa about the time when Saturn was driven from his throne by the power of Jupiter. Evidence of this is sought in the name. There is a famous mountain in Crete called Ida; the neighboring tribe, the Idaei, came to be called Judaei by a barbarous lengthening of the national name.

2. Others assert that in the reign of Isis the overflowing population of Egypt, led by Hierosolymus and Judas, discharged itself into the neighboring countries.

3. Others describe them as an Assyrian horde who, not having sufficient territory, took possession of part of Egypt, and founded cities of their own in what is called the Hebrew country, lying on the borders of Syria.

4. Others, again, assign a very distinguished origin to the Jews, alleging that they were the Solymi, a nation celebrated in the poems of Homer, who called the city which they founded Hierosolyma after their own name.

5. Most writers, however, agree in stating that once a disease, which horribly disfigured the body, broke out over Egypt; that king Bocchoris, seeking a remedy, consulted the oracle of Hammon, and was bidden to cleanse his realm, and to convey into some foreign land this race detested by the gods.

That last one, which the majority agreed upon, is essentially the same thing Manetho said about the Hyksos... That they were a leperous people who were expelled from Egypt.

We know the Egyptians weren't going to fess up to being humiliated by the Most High, but it's interesting to note that this account gives historical validity to the story of Exodus.


http://articles.latimes.com/2001/apr/13/news/mn-50481
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Exodus#Historicity

^Especially since there is currently no evidence to support it ever happened using the traditional dates.

at you quoting Manetho. Step your research game up. Manetho earned the title of "The First Anti-Semite" due to dude getting salty about Ptolemy II freeing Jewish slaves upon his ascension to the throne and decreed privileges to the literate, technologically proficient Jews that were denied to the illiterate, unskilled Egyptian masses. And because this hater said they descended from lepers means they had light skin too right?

http://www.hebrewhistory.info/factpapers/fp010-2_egypt.htm
Ptolemy II freed Jewish slaves upon his ascension to the throne and decreed privileges to the literate, technologically proficient Jews that were denied to the illiterate, unskilled Egyptian masses

Lol Nice to see you plagiarizing other people's stuff almost word for word without providing a link.

I just finished explaining why his statement is important. I don't expect him to admit the Egyptians got humiliated, but his testimony gives validity to the accounts of Exodus. Not to mention he was citing directly from the Egyptian archives.

I adressed this in my last reply to you

Actually, you didn't. I'ma need you to address that.

Especially since those Jews were descendants of the ones from Israel.

Yet they were selling slaves.

so you gonna down play all the tribal customs, dietary laws, linguistics, worship practices, and deities shared with the Hebrews because Egypt and the Hebrews used the Phoenicians alphabet and that tramp stamp lookin breastplate? GTFOH

According to who? The book: Hebrewism of West Africa? Published in 1930 by a guy who believed the OG Hebrews were white?


You seemingly have no idea how identical Muslim dietary laws, linguistics and worship practices are to judaism's.

www.youtube.com/watch?v= s95yAJye36w
(Combine to watch)

http://www.judaism-islam.com/category/tradition/
http://www.judaism-islam.com/category/prayer/
http://www.judaism-islam.com/similarities-between-the-jewish-kosher-and-muslim-halal-food-laws/
http://www.judaism-islam.com/similarities-between-judaism-and-islam/
http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Jud...g-Similarities-Between-Judaism-and-Islam.aspx


And deities??? Do you even know what the word deity means?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/deity

As for breastplates, that claim originates in Hebrewisms of West Africa lol.

But hey...

I guess the Hindus are Jews as well.

Not to mention...

All these men are clearly practicing Judaism. Notice the skull caps? Identical.

 

[Czar]

I @LionofJudah and @iLLaV3 noticed that spent every post since you signed up for this site trying to prove who the Hebrews are not, how about you say who you think the Hebrews actually are.

We, the collective believers of the Messiah, are the true hebrews. Scripture states it pretty clearly



Galatians 3:28

There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.


Galatians 6:12-16

12 Those who want to impress people by means of the flesh are trying to compel you to be circumcised. The only reason they do this is to avoid being persecuted for the cross of Christ.13 Not even those who are circumcised keep the law, yet they want you to be circumcised that they may boast about your circumcision in the flesh.14 May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which[a] the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is the new creation.16 Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule—to the Israel of God.


Galatians 4:21-31

21 Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman. 23 His son by the slave woman was born according to the flesh, but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a divine promise.
24 These things are being taken figuratively: The women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. 25 Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. 26 But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. 27 For it is written:
“Be glad, barren woman,
you who never bore a child;
shout for joy and cry aloud,
you who were never in labor;
because more are the children of the desolate woman
than of her who has a husband.”

28 Now you, brothers and sisters, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29 At that time the son born according to the flesh persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now. 30 But what does Scripture say? “Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman’s son.” 31 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.

Romans 9:6-8

6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.7 Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.”8 In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.

 

[PoPimp84]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fayum_mummy_portraits

While commonly believed to represent Greek settlers in Egypt, the Faiyum portraits instead reflect the complex synthesis of the predominant Egyptian culture and that of the elite Greek minority in the city.According to Walker, the early Ptolemaic Greek colonists married local women and adopted Egyptian religious beliefs, and by Roman times, their descendants were viewed as Egyptians by the Roman rulers, despite their own self-perception of being Greek. The dental morphology of the Roman-period Faiyum mummies was also compared with that of earlier Egyptian populations, and was found to be "much more closely akin" to that of ancient Egyptians than to Greeks or other European populations.

Which means, if Jews like Paul were being confused with those people, who weren't black, then that should tell you everything you need to know.

You just dont get it do u? I'm going to address some of the other stuff you posted when i have some more time. But first those portraits were supposed to be your trump card and assumed they were irrefutable evidence that ALL Hebrews were mixed and looked like Vin Diesel. Your argument doesnt hold weight when you put things into context. I know what Hellenize means but dont try to gloss over the fact that since the Hebrews have their own unique culture and considering the large numbers of them who lived in Alexandria why arent they mentioned with when none of the articles and cited works talk about or really mention the Hebrews in this particular tradition. The Faiyum mummy tradition makes use of everyone's traditions but no mention of the Hebrews traditions concerning death and burials. I mentioned the first time your link stated only a handful of the portraits had people with Semetic features. The link that YOU posted states that that with few exceptions most of those depicted most are of Greek and Roman in origin. So how are these paintings an example of what the Jews looked like?

Another point, the Faiyum mummy practice was for the elites (likey costed a grip) which only represented one demographic of that society then. So those depicted may or may not represent the makeup of Alexandria in acient times. No one denies that they intermixed but from these paintings, you cant assume that ALL Hebrews looked like Mariah Carey. Hell you cant assume the ALL Egyptian and Greeks looked like those depicted either. Im sure there were Greeks and Romans who still looked like traditional Europeans as well as Hebrews and Egyptians who still looked like Africans of all shades.

 

[Czar]

You just dont get it do u? I'm going to address some of the other stuff you posted when i have some more time. But first those portraits were supposed to be your trump card and assumed they were irrefutable evidence that ALL Hebrews were mixed and looked like Vin Diesel. Your argument doesnt hold weight when you put things into context. I know what Hellenize means but dont try to gloss over the fact that since the Hebrews have their own unique culture and considering the large numbers of them who lived in Alexandria why arent they mentioned with when none of the articles and cited works talk about or really mention the Hebrews in this particular tradition. The Faiyum mummy tradition makes use of everyone's traditions but no mention of the Hebrews traditions concerning death and burials. I mentioned the first time your link stated only a handful of the portraits had people with Semetic features. The link that YOU posted states that that with few exceptions most of those depicted most are of Greek and Roman in origin. So how are these paintings an example of what the Jews looked like?

Another point, the Faiyum mummy practice was for the elites (likey costed a grip) which only represented one demographic of that society then. So those depicted may or may not represent the makeup of Alexandria in acient times. No one denies that they intermixed but from these paintings, you cant assume that ALL Hebrews looked like Mariah Carey. Hell you cant assume the ALL Egyptian and Greeks looked like those depicted either. Im sure there were Greeks and Romans who still looked like traditional Europeans as well as Hebrews and Egyptians who still looked like Africans of all shades.

They sure didn't all look like Wesley Snipes back then like you're implying.

Those portraits weren't my trump card at all. But they also can't be ignored. I coulda easily gone straight to the DNA tests and shut you up. But I wanted to present a different argument concerning Egypt, since all your so-called proof involves comparing Jews to Hamites.

Notice how you have nothing to clearly prove Israel was a black nation? We don't need to compare the Ancient Kemets to Ethiopians to know they were orginally black.

Also some more points to consider.

1. Wasn't one of the prophecies of deuteronomy that the Jews would take on the customs of the places they would go to?

Seeing as many were taken as slaves into Egypt during Greek rule.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Egypt#Ptolemaic_and_Roman
In Josephus' history, it is claimed that, after the first Ptolemy took Judea, he led some 120,000 Jewish captives to Egypt from the areas of Judea, Jerusalem, Samaria, and Mount Gerizim.

Almost all of them stopped speaking hebrew. Some even took up the practices of the Greeks. I'm sure you've read about the maccabean revolt due to that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maccabean_revolt

2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fayum_mummy_portraits#Subjects_and_social_context_of_the_paintings
By the Roman period, much of the "Greek" population of Faiyum was made-up of either Hellenized Egyptians or people of mixed Egyptian-Greek origins.

3.

"Jewish and Semitic traits also have been identified on a handful of these portraits, which indeed is expected since Jewish communities in Egypt were prosperous and particularly numerous."

Regardless, my points are strong and actually backed up by fact.

Whether or not those people were Jews doesn't take away from the fact that the overall makeup of Egypt at the time was pretty much like those portraits.

 

[MostReal]

dude we don't believe your cacology...we believe the bible when are you going to realize that

he really thinks he's 'enlightening' us to new info. We know cacology...they've taught this to us since our birth.

cacs have tried to fix everything in the bible...but it just doesn't fit. The scripture says otherwise breh...give it up.

 

[Czar]

dude we believes the lies that appeal to our interest...we don't believe the bible when are you going to realize that*

the black hebrew israelites have tried to fix everything in the bible...but it just doesn't fit. The scripture says otherwise breh...give it up.*

*Fixed.

 

[MostReal]

the truth never has to work this hard to be made fact. It just is...you've put in mad time trying to take the 'black' out of everything regarding jew or Hebrew no matter what the bible states. when I see folks doing that I know they are nothing but liars and twisters of the word. those Khazar folk are nothing more than white folks who turned to Judaism...Gentiles. They even admit this themselves.

Even the Arabs don't believe those folks are jews...because they aren't....that's the great deception that the word speaks of. They have deceived the entire world and you. Got you fighting hard for your cac people...it won't work. We know the truth & nothing can change what we've read for ourselves. The Word is there to read. I've given you scripture that you either accept or not & you chose not to accept it but turn & twist it into stuff that makes no sense.

You have decided to believe the 'facts' of cacs. I know better...their track record is befriend, get close, lie, shake hands and then steal & claim ownership. This is exactly what happened once the Romans arrived in Jerusalem, The coast of America, South Africa and still to this very day. That's their track record. We see through the trickery and mirrors.

 

[Master Teacher]

my main problem with the hebrews is there no record of hebrews ever being slaves in Egypt
however there are records the hebrews were used as mercenaries by the Egyptians because they were nomadic warrior tribe
the bible mentions the hebrews building the city of Ramses, but the city was renamed that it by the Pharaoh it was already built before
and of course the last pyramid built predates the bible and they singular thought of Religion

 

[observe]

my main problem with the hebrews is there no record of hebrews ever being slaves in Egypt
however there are records the hebrews were used as mercenaries by the Egyptians because they were nomadic warrior tribe
the bible mentions the hebrews building the city of Ramses, but the city was renamed that it by the Pharaoh it was already built before
and of course the last pyramid built predates the bible and they singular thought of Religion

Yup..I didn't want to say that the whole time to start another argument in this thread..

But ya y'all..there never was a Hebrew exodus in Egypt..

 

[emoney]

great posts by Czar

especially regarding the genetics of the Lemba and Ethiopian Jews "Bete Israel".....both groups are converts and neither of them descend from Israel.

Also as far as the Igbo, like u said Judaism came via Portuguese who settled around that region of West Africa (Bight of Benin, Bight of Biafra). Portuguese were the first Europeans exploring the coast of West Africa. It's so apparent when you look at the Portuguese place names:

• Lagos, NIGERIA
• Porto Novo, BENIN
• St.Louis, SENEGAL
• El Mina, GHANA
• Cape Palmas, LIBERIA
• Benguela, ANGOLA
• Luanda, ANGOLA
• CAPE VERDE
• SIERRA LEONE
• BIAFRA (former nation state in SE Nigeria)

all Portuguese names

 

[GetInTheTruck]

the truth never has to work this hard to be made fact. It just is...you've put in mad time trying to take the 'black' out of everything regarding jew or Hebrew no matter what the bible states. when I see folks doing that I know they are nothing but liars and twisters of the word. those Khazar folk are nothing more than white folks who turned to Judaism...Gentiles. They even admit this themselves.

Even the Arabs don't believe those folks are jews...because they aren't....that's the great deception that the word speaks of. They have deceived the entire world and you. Got you fighting hard for your cac people...it won't work. We know the truth & nothing can change what we've read for ourselves. The Word is there to read. I've given you scripture that you either accept or not & you chose not to accept it but turn & twist it into stuff that makes no sense.

You have decided to believe the 'facts' of cacs. I know better...their track record is befriend, get close, lie, shake hands and then steal & claim ownership. This is exactly what happened once the Romans arrived in Jerusalem, The coast of America, South Africa and still to this very day. That's their track record. We see through the trickery and mirrors.

What? That's not true. And even if it was it wouldn't matter, because the only ones who believe the Israelites were black are brainwashed black people.

You've been hit over the head with facts all throughout this thread and you can't do anything about it besides babble about "the word," and throw around incendiary terms like "cacs" and "cacology." I'm sorry but that just wont do.

The Israelites were an actual historical people, we don't need to reference to Bible to learn about them. All we have to do is reference history to understand who they were. Mesopotamians were not black. Sumerians were not black. Israelites were not black. Deal with it.

 

[LionofJudah]

question to the ts who are these guys under: ben ammi?

I don't think any of the camps have anything to do with Ben Ammi as far as I know.

 

[LionofJudah]