HBO's Show Me A Hero (from David Simon)

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dude should of run for mayor when he had the chance and not done "what was good for the party", that weasel wouldnt of beat him in the primary.

the actress that plays nay :wub:

also, was viv lying about nick fukking around on his wife or not? was she doing it to be spiteful? cuz he never showed any signs of fukking around thru out show

She was doing it to be spiteful. She wanted to put doubt in his wife's mind. I don't think he cheated though.
 

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What!? They nominated the mayor for a jfk courage award!? :mindblown:

I said this same shyt in HL when the Michigan bar reversed their decision to give an award to a white supremacist



That "now congratulate me for doing what's right" is that BS liberal social progressivism that describes that entire democratic council to a T.

Muhfukka is really sitting here cheesing about doing a good political job and not ONCE has he shown any empathy about creating a better living condition for those in public housing. "In two years everyone is going to remember what you did for this city." :mindblown:

What HE did? The muhfukka had no choice. If he doesn't get a deal done, the houses get built. If he gets the deal done, the houses get built. Wipe that smile off your face.



He blew his head off, G. Look into the inner workings of the human condition beyond your soapbox.
 

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....I still need to finish watching this. Damn these long episodes, haven't even got through parts 3 & 4 yet. :sadcam:
 
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something i think i missed because i just rewatched 5-6 not the other 4. was the cemetary scene just one time just forshadowed in the beginning episodes or did he go multiple times cause they always showed the beeper going off on the dash but i cant remember if he had the same clothes on?
 

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something i think i missed because i just rewatched 5-6 not the other 4. was the cemetary scene just one time just forshadowed in the beginning episodes or did he go multiple times cause they always showed the beeper going off on the dash but i cant remember if he had the same clothes on?

It was the same clothes, the scene at the cemetery is the same one in each episode.. We never really got an explanation of who or why he was getting a 911, though you could kiinda infer it was Nay.

The best answer I got is from reddit:

Quoted from the book: "All afternoon, Nay tried to page him, because she was frightened at his stories of transmitters and tails… she dialed his beeper at least ten times, periodically pressing the numbers "9-1-1," their code for an emergency" (page 311 in the non-HBO-branded edition).

The miniseries doesn't show this, but apparently Wasiscko was paranoid about the corruption investigation during his last days and thought he was being followed and that his car had a location transmitter on it. This despite the fact that the investigators have said they did never seriously suspected him of embezzlement.
 

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The mini series was good
only grief is the lack of depiction of the school segregation angle

yeah
as i was watching this i was wondering "what about the schools?"
i guess it might have been too much to include in there with all of what was going on in the show
theres so much i wanna get into with this (being someone who was raised in the projects) this was just a real good series imo

So some researchers over at the Urban Institute spoke on this as well:
In response to Reed, the Yonkers case was also about schools and resulted in open enrollment. So where you live has relatively little to do with where you go to school. Of course, this approach is not an unmitigated success. Many white, middle class families pulled their kids from the system, so all the schools became less integrated. When we did our study under a CHOICE neighborhood planning grant for Cottage Place Gardens, we found that our residents on averaged traveled 45 minutes to school. It also makes it more difficult to impact a development as improving the local school does not necessarily benefit the people who live nearby. That is why I think you have to plan for all communities even though the resources do not exist to implement the plans.
Race and Place: Reflections on HBO’s
 

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HBO’s ‘Show Me a Hero’ is as much about southern Dallas as Yonkers

For all its liberal reputation, suburban New York was a powder keg at the time. A series of racially based murders in Howard Beach underscored the adamant position of some residents that not only would they not permit blacks to live in their neighborhoods, they wouldn’t even allow them to walk down the street.

Sounds like ancient history? Recall that it was only 1998 when James Byrd Jr. was dragged to his death on a dirt road in the East Texas town of Jasper. At least two of the perpetrators were white supremacists. We aren’t that far removed historically from overt acts of racism. And I know from troll replies to what I post on this blog that there are loads of anonymous racists out there just itching for the opportunity to get in a dig.

Closer to home, it was only 1995 when a federal court ruled that the Dallas Housing Authority had effectively forced the city’s poorest black residents to live in isolated, clustered slums — in southern Dallas. The court order required the city to redistribute its public housing stock to other areas, not just to achieve a greater racial balance but to help give poorer residents access to the better schools and quality of life that, at that point, seemed to be the exclusive domain of richer whites.

Fourteen homeowners’ groups in Far North Dallas filed suit to stop the DHA’s Villas at Hillcrest project, arguing that existing homeowners’ constitutional rights were being violated. Just like in the Yonkers case depicted in “Show Me a Hero,” the Texas homeowners’ groups argued that locating the Villas in their midst would drag down property values and bring an increase in crime.

When the court challenges yielded no fruit, the North Dallas protesters were forced to accept the inevitable, as was the case in Yonkers.

Yes, crime has gone up — for reasons that cannot be directly linked to public housing. But what few residents want to admit is that property values have gone up as well.

Frankly, it doesn’t matter. What does matter is that cities like Dallas and Yonkers may no longer force their poorest minority residents to live apart from the rest of us. And in devising new public housing formulas, planners have come to realize that one of the most destructive ways to deal with poverty is to force poor families into project-style tenements. By far, the preferred choice is to place them in single-family dwellings with yards and space for kids to play.

We really never got a chance to tell that side of the story here in Dallas — the positive story of lives transformed by giving people a chance at a lifestyle that doesn’t immerse them up to their necks in the trappings of poverty. But “Show Me a Hero” does tell this story, by following the experiences of three or four families that resided in old-style, crime-ridden projects, then showing the change in their lives as they transition into an entirely new style of housing in an entirely different neighborhood.

You see from this series how people allow their attitudes and biases guide their mistrust, and how they tend to assume the worst of others merely because their skin color is different or because they don’t have a lot of money. None of what is documented in this series offers a rosy, wonderful picture. It’s tough stuff. (Wasicsko ends up killing himself.) But lives on all sides do wind up being altered for the better.
 

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/15/o...itical-price-for-affordable-housing.html?_r=1

For generations, working- and middle-class opponents of anti-discrimination laws have argued that more affluent whites support such laws without having to bear any of the costs.

Now, the Democratic loyalty of better-off white liberals will be tested by two recent developments: the June 25 Supreme Court decision in Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs v. The Inclusive Communities Project, Inc. and the Department of Housing and Urban Development’s issuance of a new rule on July 8, “Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing.”

The court’s decision, which the Obama administration sought in an amicus brief, together with the HUD regulation, are major victories for civil rights advocates, who argue that moving poor minorities, especially young children, out of high-poverty neighborhoods can produce improvements in education, earnings and marriage stability.

If these two rulings survive further legal and legislative challenges, they will set in motion much tougher enforcement of the 1968 Fair Housing Act, and will require predominantly white communities to build significantly more low-income housing.

Such a development has potential political ramifications. It may drive some middle-income and other whites into the arms of the Republican Party.

Westchester County in New York has a median household income of $81,946; 44.4 percent of adults there are college graduates. The county — which is emblematic of suburban communities that have switched from Republican to Democratic over the past 25 years — presents a worrisome precedent for Democrats.

As long ago as 1992, county residents stopped voting for Republican presidential nominees; since then they have supported Democratic presidential candidates, without exception. Registered Democratic voters, once the minority, currently outnumber Republicans two to one, 255,804 to 127,074.

Partisan realignment notwithstanding, voters in this solidly Democratic jurisdiction have now twice elected — in 2009 and 2013 – a local Republican, Robert Astorino, to the position of county executive. First, Astorino decisively defeated the incumbent Democrat, Andrew Spano, just a year after Obama carried the county with 63 percent of the vote. Four years later, in 2013, Astorino beat the Democratic nominee, Noam Bramson.

What sustained Astorino in this Democratic bastion were the lingering effects of a 2009 consent decree, signed by Spano, to provide low-income blacks and Hispanics with 750 units of affordable housing in Westchester. The agreement calls for this housing to be located in the county’s 31 most affluent white communities before the end of 2016.

The 2009 consent agreement is similar to decrees that jurisdictions across the country will be facing as the Supreme Court and HUD rulings are put into action.

Astorino’s strongest margins of victory against Spano were in the overwhelmingly white towns where the consent decree called for the construction of affordable housing.

Astorino himself, while slowly moving toward the 750-unit target, has repeatedly demonized the federal Department of Housing and Urban Development. In his April 2013 State of the County address, he declared:

Their demands are outrageous. HUD wants no restrictions — in any neighborhood — on height, size, acreage, density, number of bedrooms and lack of water or sewers.

Astorino warned that “A five-story building — or higher – could be put on your street”; that the agreement to build 750 units “was just a starting point”; and that the actual HUD target is “10,768 housing units” at a cost to the county of $1 billion.

Voters in other towns and counties may not react as Westchester County voters appear to have. At one level, the growing strength of suburban Democrats suggests that these white bastions may be more amenable than they have been in the past to inclusive racial policies.

If, however, Westchester County is an indicator of how similar jurisdictions will respond to stepped-up construction of affordable housing, it could mean trouble for the Democratic Party.

For example, Robert Sampson, a sociologist at Harvard who strongly supports affordable-housing initiatives, noted the possibility of a political backlash:

We could well see resistance. Westchester is a case in point, especially since it is a county of almost a million people, and 750 units is a very small penetration for a population that big. If there is resistance on that small scale, imagine if the flow were much larger and extended to counties that are less liberal or Democratic.

William Julius Wilson, also a member of the Harvard sociology department, was more optimistic, pointing out that gradual execution of the law’s provisions may be the key to success:

Although it is designed to encourage cities and localities to reduce segregation in more desirable areas and improve housing stock in lower-income neighborhoods, experts agree that the process will take several years before any measurable progress can be recorded. This slow unfolding and implementation of the current enforcement plans will hardly generate a serious backlash, if there is any backlash at all.

Still, Democratic leaders may find themselves caught between the conflicting demands of minority voters and white mid-to-upper income households.

African-Americans and liberal suburbanites are key Democratic constituencies, and affordable housing touches on matters of core importance to each group.

For low-income African-Americans in particular, the stakes are high.

There is a strong body of evidence that poor minority children under the age of 13 have improved life chances if they move from high-poverty into lower-poverty neighborhoods. Research supporting this view has been conducted by Raj Chetty, Nathaniel Hendren and Lawrence F. Katz, all economists at Harvard, in their May 2015 report, “The Effects of Exposure to Better Neighborhoods on Children.” Chetty et al. report, for example, that

Children assigned to the experimental voucher group before they turned 13 have incomes that are $1,624 higher on average relative to the control group in their mid-twenties

and

We find that the experimental voucher treatment increases the share of births in which the father is present [meaning that a father is listed on the birth certificate] by 6.8 percent for younger children.

While conservatives have long railed against federal enforcement of fair housing legislation, some liberal analysts cite problems they attribute to the difficulty of racial and ethnic integration.

Perhaps most famously, Robert Putnam, a professor of public policy at Harvard, reported in his 2007 essay “E Pluribus Unum: Diversity and Community in the Twenty-first Century,” that in the short run:

immigration and ethnic diversity tend to reduce social solidarity and social capital. New evidence from the U.S. suggests that in ethnically diverse neighborhoods residents of all races tend to “hunker down.” Trust, even of one’s own race, is lower, altruism and community cooperation rarer, friends fewer.

Diverse communities, Putnam wrote, “tend to be larger, more mobile, less egalitarian, more crime-ridden.”

A 2009 study conducted for the federal Department of Health and Human Services by the liberal Urban Institute, “Vulnerable Youth and the Transition to Adulthood,” serves to further document the perceived hazards of having low-income neighbors.

The study compared “risk behaviors” among low-, middle- and high-income adolescents. The percentage of those who attack others or get into fights was 33 percent for low-income youth, 26 percent for middle income and 22 percent for high income. The same pattern was found for gang membership: 12 percent, 7 percent, and 5 percent; for stealing something worth more than $50, 18 percent, 13 percent, 11 percent; for carrying a gun, 19, 16, and 11 percent; and for births before the age of 18: 7 percent, 2 percent, and 1 percent.

The issue of enforced integration via federal housing policy poses additional problems for racial and ethnic minorities, who currently make up 30 percent of the population — and made up 23 percent of voters in the last presidential election. Black and Hispanic turnout on Election Day can be decisive, and the response to Democratic housing initiatives is of substantial concern to party strategists.

Elijah Anderson, a sociologist at Yale, describes the situation from a black vantage point in his essay “The White Space”:

Blacks perceive such settings as “the white space,” which they often consider to be informally “off limits” for people like them. Meanwhile, despite the growth of an enormous black middle class, many whites assume that the natural black space is that destitute and fearsome locality so commonly featured in the public media, including popular books, music and videos, and the TV news — the iconic ghetto. White people typically avoid black space, but black people are required to navigate the white space as a condition of their existence.

Anderson notes that stereotyping, prejudice and fear are damaging to African-Americans. He continued in a phone interview:

The ghetto has become a very powerful icon in American society. Because you have black skin, it’s always hovering over you. You have to work on the idea that you are not some kind of a threat to be accepted. Even then you only have provisional status.

The complexities of affordable housing raise a further political question: Can Republicans turn the Supreme Court and HUD decisions and the renewed drive to integrate residential housing into a wedge issue to weaken Democratic allegiance?

Republicans have already begun to pull out the stops.

On June 9, in anticipation of the HUD regulation, Representative Paul Gosar, Republican of Arizona, won House approval of an amendment barring the use of tax dollars to enforce the HUD rule. It passed 229 to 193. Republicans voted in favor 229 to 11; Democrats were unanimously opposed, 182-0.

Simultaneously, the conservative media have been drumming up opposition to the HUD regulation.

A June 11 FoxBusiness story carried the headline “Affordable Housing Coming to a Neighborhood Near You?”

Stanley Kurtz, at National Review, exploded on July 8, the day the HUD regulation was announced:

Once HUD gets its hooks into a municipality, no policy area is safe. Zoning, transportation, education, all of it risks slipping into the control of the federal government and the new, unelected regional bodies the feds will empower.

“Over time,” Kurtz continued, Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing

could spell the end of the local democracy that Alexis de Tocqueville rightly saw as the foundation of America’s liberty and distinctiveness.

It happens that Bill and Hillary Clinton live and vote in Westchester County, and their own precinct in Chappaqua — 362 registered Democrats to 213 Republicans — reflects the shift in local elections to the Republican Party. In 2012, Obama won the precinct 342 to 250. In 2009, Astorino carried the Clintons’ precinct 131 to 89, and in 2013, 197 to 160.

The Supreme Court and HUD have together set in motion a major test of middle- and upper-middle-class white America, which will determine whether support for racial equality goes beyond calls to lower the Confederate flag, beyond demands for stricter oversight of the police in minority neighborhoods, and on to a willingness to tolerate racial change in the house next door.
 

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/15/o...itical-price-for-affordable-housing.html?_r=1

For generations, working- and middle-class opponents of anti-discrimination laws have argued that more affluent whites support such laws without having to bear any of the costs.

Now, the Democratic loyalty of better-off white liberals will be tested by two recent developments: the June 25 Supreme Court decision in Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs v. The Inclusive Communities Project, Inc. and the Department of Housing and Urban Development’s issuance of a new rule on July 8, “Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing.”

The court’s decision, which the Obama administration sought in an amicus brief, together with the HUD regulation, are major victories for civil rights advocates, who argue that moving poor minorities, especially young children, out of high-poverty neighborhoods can produce improvements in education, earnings and marriage stability.

If these two rulings survive further legal and legislative challenges, they will set in motion much tougher enforcement of the 1968 Fair Housing Act, and will require predominantly white communities to build significantly more low-income housing.

Such a development has potential political ramifications. It may drive some middle-income and other whites into the arms of the Republican Party.

Westchester County in New York has a median household income of $81,946; 44.4 percent of adults there are college graduates. The county — which is emblematic of suburban communities that have switched from Republican to Democratic over the past 25 years — presents a worrisome precedent for Democrats.

As long ago as 1992, county residents stopped voting for Republican presidential nominees; since then they have supported Democratic presidential candidates, without exception. Registered Democratic voters, once the minority, currently outnumber Republicans two to one, 255,804 to 127,074.

Partisan realignment notwithstanding, voters in this solidly Democratic jurisdiction have now twice elected — in 2009 and 2013 – a local Republican, Robert Astorino, to the position of county executive. First, Astorino decisively defeated the incumbent Democrat, Andrew Spano, just a year after Obama carried the county with 63 percent of the vote. Four years later, in 2013, Astorino beat the Democratic nominee, Noam Bramson.

What sustained Astorino in this Democratic bastion were the lingering effects of a 2009 consent decree, signed by Spano, to provide low-income blacks and Hispanics with 750 units of affordable housing in Westchester. The agreement calls for this housing to be located in the county’s 31 most affluent white communities before the end of 2016.

The 2009 consent agreement is similar to decrees that jurisdictions across the country will be facing as the Supreme Court and HUD rulings are put into action.

Astorino’s strongest margins of victory against Spano were in the overwhelmingly white towns where the consent decree called for the construction of affordable housing.

Astorino himself, while slowly moving toward the 750-unit target, has repeatedly demonized the federal Department of Housing and Urban Development. In his April 2013 State of the County address, he declared:



Astorino warned that “A five-story building — or higher – could be put on your street”; that the agreement to build 750 units “was just a starting point”; and that the actual HUD target is “10,768 housing units” at a cost to the county of $1 billion.

Voters in other towns and counties may not react as Westchester County voters appear to have. At one level, the growing strength of suburban Democrats suggests that these white bastions may be more amenable than they have been in the past to inclusive racial policies.

If, however, Westchester County is an indicator of how similar jurisdictions will respond to stepped-up construction of affordable housing, it could mean trouble for the Democratic Party.

For example, Robert Sampson, a sociologist at Harvard who strongly supports affordable-housing initiatives, noted the possibility of a political backlash:



William Julius Wilson, also a member of the Harvard sociology department, was more optimistic, pointing out that gradual execution of the law’s provisions may be the key to success:



Still, Democratic leaders may find themselves caught between the conflicting demands of minority voters and white mid-to-upper income households.

African-Americans and liberal suburbanites are key Democratic constituencies, and affordable housing touches on matters of core importance to each group.

For low-income African-Americans in particular, the stakes are high.

There is a strong body of evidence that poor minority children under the age of 13 have improved life chances if they move from high-poverty into lower-poverty neighborhoods. Research supporting this view has been conducted by Raj Chetty, Nathaniel Hendren and Lawrence F. Katz, all economists at Harvard, in their May 2015 report, “The Effects of Exposure to Better Neighborhoods on Children.” Chetty et al. report, for example, that



and



While conservatives have long railed against federal enforcement of fair housing legislation, some liberal analysts cite problems they attribute to the difficulty of racial and ethnic integration.

Perhaps most famously, Robert Putnam, a professor of public policy at Harvard, reported in his 2007 essay “E Pluribus Unum: Diversity and Community in the Twenty-first Century,” that in the short run:



Diverse communities, Putnam wrote, “tend to be larger, more mobile, less egalitarian, more crime-ridden.”

A 2009 study conducted for the federal Department of Health and Human Services by the liberal Urban Institute, “Vulnerable Youth and the Transition to Adulthood,” serves to further document the perceived hazards of having low-income neighbors.

The study compared “risk behaviors” among low-, middle- and high-income adolescents. The percentage of those who attack others or get into fights was 33 percent for low-income youth, 26 percent for middle income and 22 percent for high income. The same pattern was found for gang membership: 12 percent, 7 percent, and 5 percent; for stealing something worth more than $50, 18 percent, 13 percent, 11 percent; for carrying a gun, 19, 16, and 11 percent; and for births before the age of 18: 7 percent, 2 percent, and 1 percent.

The issue of enforced integration via federal housing policy poses additional problems for racial and ethnic minorities, who currently make up 30 percent of the population — and made up 23 percent of voters in the last presidential election. Black and Hispanic turnout on Election Day can be decisive, and the response to Democratic housing initiatives is of substantial concern to party strategists.

Elijah Anderson, a sociologist at Yale, describes the situation from a black vantage point in his essay “The White Space”:



Anderson notes that stereotyping, prejudice and fear are damaging to African-Americans. He continued in a phone interview:



The complexities of affordable housing raise a further political question: Can Republicans turn the Supreme Court and HUD decisions and the renewed drive to integrate residential housing into a wedge issue to weaken Democratic allegiance?

Republicans have already begun to pull out the stops.

On June 9, in anticipation of the HUD regulation, Representative Paul Gosar, Republican of Arizona, won House approval of an amendment barring the use of tax dollars to enforce the HUD rule. It passed 229 to 193. Republicans voted in favor 229 to 11; Democrats were unanimously opposed, 182-0.

Simultaneously, the conservative media have been drumming up opposition to the HUD regulation.

A June 11 FoxBusiness story carried the headline “Affordable Housing Coming to a Neighborhood Near You?”

Stanley Kurtz, at National Review, exploded on July 8, the day the HUD regulation was announced:



“Over time,” Kurtz continued, Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing



It happens that Bill and Hillary Clinton live and vote in Westchester County, and their own precinct in Chappaqua — 362 registered Democrats to 213 Republicans — reflects the shift in local elections to the Republican Party. In 2012, Obama won the precinct 342 to 250. In 2009, Astorino carried the Clintons’ precinct 131 to 89, and in 2013, 197 to 160.

The Supreme Court and HUD have together set in motion a major test of middle- and upper-middle-class white America, which will determine whether support for racial equality goes beyond calls to lower the Confederate flag, beyond demands for stricter oversight of the police in minority neighborhoods, and on to a willingness to tolerate racial change in the house next door.
negged for this novel sized post.
 

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Have the day off Friday.

Gonna binge watch it.

Look forward to it. I hope I'm not disappointed by the coli.

Doubt I will be though.

:myman:
 
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