Have Men Oppressed Women?

[Mr. Pink]

Are you serious with this?

Men have been able to control women since the beginning of time,

Why?

 

[Desirous]

Excuse me, but it's very simple: Those women were ignored/snubbed by the scientific community? Why? Because the scientific community was run by men. Why was the scientific community run by men? Because men's contribution to the scientific community was greater, both in number and in scope.

Look, I don't deny that women's contributions going ignored is fukked up. But look at it this way: why aren't the roles reversed? Why were men in the position to reject women's contributions and not the other way around? Do you see where I'm going with this?

In many countries, women aren't allowed to attend school (even in 2013!) For the longest, this was the case in the greater world. You don't really just stumble upon these things...it takes research, experimentation, countless hours of studying...men had a better opportunity to learn/be taught whereas women did not. Therefore, of course, men's contributions are greater.

 

[Dwolf]

Yes

 

[Remote]

In many countries, women aren't allowed to attend school (even in 2013!) For the longest, this was the case in the greater world. You don't really just stumble upon these things...it takes research, experimentation, countless hours of studying...men had a better opportunity to learn/be taught whereas women did not. Therefore, of course, men's contributions are greater.

Speaking of women not being allowed to go to school...this one was nearly murdered.

 

[Desirous]

So since white men hold and dominate in most of those male dominated industies your talking about ... Do you feel they are naturally more capable then us po old black people lol ? Nothing to do with exclusion ?

According to these responses, I am sensing that the reasoning is: "why are white men most powerful in the first place? because they're most capable" over women, other races, etc. That since they have reached this level of authority, "there must be a reason why and why they've been able to maintain it"

 

[Mr. Pink]

In many countries, women aren't allowed to attend school (even in 2013!) For the longest, this was the case in the greater world. You don't really just stumble upon these things...it takes research, experimentation, countless hours of studying...men had a better opportunity to learn/be taught whereas women did not. Therefore, of course, men's contributions are greater.

Again, this is fukked up, but it's further indication of something: men were in the position to prohibit those things because men first 'invented' institutions of learning.
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What I'm basically saying is this: the status quo is the status quo for a reason.

 

[Poitier]

The OP already knew the answer to this question, though. He just wanted to circle jerk and pat himself on the back.

 

[Desirous]

Again, this is fukked up, but it's further indication of something: men were in the position to prohibit those things because men first 'invented' institutions of learning.
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What I'm basically saying is this: the status quo is the status quo for a reason.

Is my assumption here correct?

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/have-men-oppressed-women.158525/page-5#post-5917878

 

[Remote]

Again, this is fukked up, but it's further indication of something: men were in the position to prohibit those things because men first 'invented' institutions of learning.
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What I'm basically saying is this: the status quo is the status quo for a reason.

Status quo is status quo because the powers that be are interested in keeping their power.
Not because of any inherent evolutionary advantage.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Why?

Financially mainly...women werent allowed to work...they were also saddled with children. But if you want to go to the route its basically comes down to physical strength. Thats not a factor in this world any more though.

 

[Mr. Pink]

According to these responses, I am sensing that the reasoning is: "why are white men most powerful in the first place? because they're most capable" over women, other races, etc. That since they have reached this level of authority, there "must be a reason why and why they've been able to maintain it"

That's a blunt way to put it, but yes, that's the gist of it. I'm not saying it's pretty, or even morally 'correct'. It just is.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

That's a blunt way to put it, but yes, that's the gist of it. I'm not saying it's pretty, or even morally 'correct'. It just is.

This guy is CAC/White supremacist just incase you want to spend any more time debating him.

 

[Poitier]

Status quo is status quo because the powers that be are interested in keeping their power.
Not because of any inherent evolutionary advantage.

ehhhh I would think men's physicality, which is what allowed us to gain an advantage over women, is definitely an evolutionary advantage

Financially mainly...women werent allowed to work...they were also saddled with children. But if you want to go to the route its basically comes down to physical strength. Thats not a factor in this world any more though.

Nope, it's definitely a factor. As long as we play the game like it doesn't matter then fine, but at it's most primal, it'll always be a factor.

 

[Remote]

Unbelievable !! @ that Lise Meitner wikipedia.
I had no idea who she was. And she was TEACHING in the 1930s.

Unreal how they screwed her over.

 

[Desirous]

That's a blunt way to put it, but yes, that's the gist of it. I'm not saying it's pretty, or even morally 'correct'. It just is.

I still don't think it's because women are less capable though...it's just something that has become a social norm.

It goes back to the hunter/gatherer stage: women stayed behind to take care of the home, men were the providers. Naturally, the woman's duty/role remained within the household. Men are physically stronger (and since women are the child bearers, this restricts us from a lot of physical activities/labour) so they became the builders, business men, negotiators etc.