Has the feminist movement made men less manly?

Matt504

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How can you say he has a limited view when you do too? You used yourself as if you speak for everybody. Just because you don't want people to stop you don't mean everybody is like that.

I'm not using myself to speak for everyone, just pointing out that I personally don't like people to try and interact with me when I'm out in public. the larger point is, we have no way of knowing which women want to be talked to or not, so it's best practice to err on the side of caution and simply leave women alone unless you're in a space where socializing is expected, like some sort of social event, club, lounge etc.

Has their ever been a time in history when men were so soft that they have to ponder moral implications of speaking to a stranger in public?

we live in that time now and it has nothing to do with men being soft, men are not and have never been entitled to a woman's time or space, just because it was "acceptable" or "the norm" in the past does NOT mean it was ok. you sound no different than cacs who go around talking about "I miss thing the way they used to be" when they could hang Black people and treat them any kind of way with complete impunity, not that things have changed much but it was common place for Black men to be hanged purely based on an allegation, no court date, no trial, just neck and a rope and that was perfectly normal.

times change and we must change with the times, it's shouldn't be considered soft to take a person's well being into consideration, especially considering you're trying to approach a person who does not know you and does not know what your intent is.
 

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I'm not dismissing your fears of safety. What I am doing is questioning how anyone could REASONABLY expect an assault to happen.

What you're basically trying to say is that you go to a game at Yankee Stadium and all you see is 25,000 rapists.

That's just crazy. I'm not dismissing the dangers of rape. But you have to be realistic.

breh, you have to be realistic too, if you don't who is a rapist or a murderer you have to treat everyone like one to avoid letting your guard down while with one.

You're over thinking it, we don't see a man and think "RAPIST" no, we see a man and we're prepared for everything, for him to pull out a knife, gun, grab us etc.
 

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I think its a contradiction because even if its the types you don't seem to care if,its the right type. If you can decipher what they are about from talking usually what is the big problem with them approaching? Are you that scarred somebody going to snatch you up a even though most people have never been anywhere close to getting snatched up? End of the day do whatever you need to to feel safe

Actually 1/2 of black women experience sexual assault in their lifetime in America.
 

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I had a GF drop a gem on me about approaching people when she said that guys have to worry about being laughed at or embarrassed, while she has to worry about being physically touched or assaulted

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breh, you have to be realistic too, if you don't who is a rapist or a murderer you have to treat everyone like one to avoid letting your guard down while with one.

You're over thinking it, we don't see a man and think "RAPIST" no, we see a man and we're prepared for everything, for him to pull out a knife, gun, grab us etc.

You're right. :ld:
That's why I'm pleading with all men of the coli to be wary of all women.

A lot of potential gold digging hoes out there.

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It's no clear standard to what street harrasment even is.
You have some women that are so illogical that even asking a woman for her number can be called street harrasment.

the best practice is to err on the side of caution, if a woman is walking up the street, leave her alone, if she's at the grocery store shopping, leave her alone, if she's on public transportation trying to get to her destination, leave her alone.
 

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Actually 1/2 of black women experience sexual assault in their lifetime in America.

I've had multiple guys try to rape/kidnap me. and it was by normal looking guys, guys you would never expect it from. These dudes on here can try to shyt on me for thinking like I do but no one was there to help me during those times. So idc how they feel. :yeshrug:
 

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My own mama can't tell me what to do, I highly doubt some random non-deodorant wearing hoe can tell how to define my manhood :camby:



Most of these women are all talk anyway. They say one thing, but they willingly compromise and tone down their positions when they meet the right (or wrong) guy

None of these feminists ever went against racist police officers or white supremacy. That should tell you everything. :mjpls:
 

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the best practice is to err on the side of caution, if a woman is walking up the street, leave her alone, if she's at the grocery store shopping, leave her alone, if she's on public transportation trying to get to her destination, leave her alone.

How about just come with basic respect.
Avoiding talking to women is crazy
 

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Has their ever been a time in history when men were so soft that they have to ponder moral implications of speaking to a stranger in public?

@Raul we're looking at the principle of the thread at work.


You nor anyone you know has lived lacking any of these rights tho. :duckette: And that's precisely why modern femnism is more about catcalling, body counts, hating men, anti ____ shaming and whatever other bs.

Besides if the "extremists" of the movement can actually effect legislation (manspreading) then it's too late to be acting like they're some vocal minority
I agree with all of this esp bold. I've never thought if I talk to her shes going to think I'm a "creep", "rapist", "murderer", etc but obviously you got some cats really thinking this stuff. I also agree about the stuff women complain about regarding pay and stuff.
 

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I've had multiple guys try to rape/kidnap me. and it was by normal looking guys, guys you would never expect it from. These dudes on here can try to shyt on me for thinking like I do but no one was there to help me during those times. So idc how they feel. :yeshrug:

It's EXTREMELY prevalent for black women, people barely talk about it. I never understood the need for my brothers to want to protect me, but being followed, grabbed at, etc. opened my eyes to be on high alert.
 

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How about just come with basic respect.
Avoiding talking to women is crazy

you don't have to avoid talking to women, just go to places where women are more likely to be willing to engage like a night club or a social event. women aren't damsels in distress waiting around to be approached by the best suitor, they're trying to get from point A to B without interruption, real life isn't like the movies where women are trying to get chose by the "fine brother" on the bread aisle, they're trying to get their groceries and make it back inside to their safety zone.

you're centering yourself yet again with the "come with basic respect" rhetoric, these women do not know your intentions and are probably not interested in finding out what they are, and a lot of the time the women who do give "the time of the day" are only doing so in fear of what the consequence might be if she doesn't.

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