Has the feminist movement made men less manly?

[Matt504]

I agree with all of this esp bold. I've never thought if I talk to her shes going to think I'm a "creep", "rapist", "murderer", etc but obviously you got some cats really thinking this stuff. I also agree about the stuff women complain about regarding pay and stuff.

makes sense, you're probably the kind of person women should avoid because you're only concerned with your perception of the situation and not what the woman you're approaching might be thinking.

*philmonroe's brain*: she looks good, I'm a nice guy, I smell good, I look good, I'm not a bad person, I'm about to shoot my shot.

what's missing from the equation is "maybe she doesn't want to be talked to, maybe she's just trying to get home without being bothered"

the best practice is to meet women on a level playing field, a nighclub, a lounge, a social event, or somewhere else where adults go to interact with each other.

 

[philmonroe]

No one is saying that all people are rapists and murderers. But you don't know who is so you have to have your guard up and be prepared for anything.

If that's your way of being safe do you because I understand even if don't agree with it.

I'm not using myself to speak for everyone, just pointing out that I personally don't like people to try and interact with me when I'm out in public. the larger point is, we have no way of knowing which women want to be talked to or not, so it's best practice to err on the side of caution and simply leave women alone unless you're in a space where socializing is expected, like some sort of social event, club, lounge etc.



we live in that time now and it has nothing to do with men being soft, men are not and have never been entitled to a woman's time or space, just because it was "acceptable" or "the norm" in the past does NOT mean it was ok. you sound no different than cacs who go around talking about "I miss thing the way they used to be" when they could hang Black people and treat them any kind of way with complete impunity, not that things have changed much but it was common place for Black men to be hanged purely based on an allegation, no court date, no trial, just neck and a rope and that was perfectly normal.

times change and we must change with the times, it's shouldn't be considered soft to take a person's well being into consideration, especially considering you're trying to approach a person who does not know you and does not know what your intent is.

Bold is coward stuff sorry. I'm not going to live my life on some she might not want to be talked to so err on the side of caution. I know I'm not going to do her harm and she tells me no, runs away, whatever, that's her right and it is what it is. You win some you lose some but live you never that stuff from people that don't get far in life because that type of super safe thinking creeps up in everything you do. Maybe you're an outlier but majority of the people on your vibe don't get far because either always need things to be perfect to make moves and therefore end up never doing much. I'll risk being embarrassed by her then to be like I think she's attractive but since its not at a party or work I can't get to know her. That's lunacy esp when you figure you probably don't see the person again so if they move you like that what do,you have to lose.

Actually 1/2 of black women experience sexual assault in their lifetime in America.

Well glad I don't know anybody that's had that happen personally. I'm also wary of numbers anyway because they can be skewed. Like I said though if that's what you do to feel safe do it I just disagree with it even if understanding it.

 

[Kenny West]

I'm not using myself to speak for everyone, just pointing out that I personally don't like people to try and interact with me when I'm out in public. the larger point is, we have no way of knowing which women want to be talked to or not, so it's best practice to err on the side of caution and simply leave women alone unless you're in a space where socializing is expected, like some sort of social event, club, lounge etc.



we live in that time now and it has nothing to do with men being soft, men are not and have never been entitled to a woman's time or space, just because it was "acceptable" or "the norm" in the past does NOT mean it was ok. you sound no different than cacs who go around talking about "I miss thing the way they used to be" when they could hang Black people and treat them any kind of way with complete impunity, not that things have changed much but it was common place for Black men to be hanged purely based on an allegation, no court date, no trial, just neck and a rope and that was perfectly normal.

times change and we must change with the times, it's shouldn't be considered soft to take a person's well being into consideration, especially considering you're trying to approach a person who does not know you and does not know what your intent is.

What an idiot. If you're intent isn't to hurt them what the hell is there to think about? You worried about her being afraid of you speaking to her? If you're worried about trying not to appear as a creep then....don't be creepy. This mental masturbatory bs you wrote might sound good or even look good on paper for daps. But this has no practical bearing on real life. Who the hell is going around asking for consent to SPEAK to another human being? You have a right to speech in this country no matter who it's to, so yes you are in fact entitled to speak to whomever you like.

And women have no problem disengaging from an interaction, trust me. Some do it every day. They're grown and can handle themselves mr. considerate. Again people throughout history spoke to others without contemplating if they were worthy of their time. You aren't being enlightening or pushing something forward with this nonsense. You're just being an intellectual simp

 

[philmonroe]

makes sense, you're probably the kind of person women should avoid because you're only concerned with your perception of the situation and not what the woman you're approaching might be thinking.

*philmonroe's brain*: she looks good, I'm a nice guy, I smell good, I look good, I'm not a bad person, I'm about to shoot my shot.

what's missing from the equation is "maybe she doesn't want to be talked to, maybe she's just trying to get home without being bothered"

the best practice is to meet women on a level playing field, a nighclub, a lounge, a social event, or somewhere else where adults go to interact with each other.

You're right I don't know what she's thinking so unless she tells me how the fukk would I know? A girl that's not interested has no problem telling me no and nothing happened. No charges been filed on me and I took my L and other times I got the W so I'm going to keep rolling with my method. You keep with your cowardly lion way of handling business on this issue but I'm not going to be limited to onlygirls basically at the club FOH.

 

[Will Ross]

[

you don't have to avoid talking to women, just go to places where women are more likely to be willing to engage like a night club or a social event. women aren't damsels in distress waiting around to be approached by the best suitor, they're trying to get from point A to B without interruption, real life isn't like the movies where women are trying to get chose by the "fine brother" on the bread aisle, they're trying to get their groceries and make it back inside to their safety zone.

you're centering yourself yet again with the "come with basic respect" rhetoric, these women do not know your intentions and are probably not interested in finding out what they are, and a lot of the time the women who do give "the time of the day" are only doing so in fear of what the consequence might be if she doesn't.

If you come with respect most women won't have an issue with that.
I met girls getting gas.

 

[Matt504]

Bold is coward stuff sorry. I'm not going to live my life on some she might not want to be talked to so err on the side of caution. I know I'm not going to do her harm and she tells me no, runs away, whatever, that's her right and it is what it is. You win some you lose some but live you never that stuff from people that don't get far in life because that type of super safe thinking creeps up in everything you do. Maybe you're an outlier but majority of the people on your vibe don't get far because either always need things to be perfect to make moves and therefore end up never doing much. I'll risk being embarrassed by her then to be like I think she's attractive but since its not at a party or work I can't get to know her. That's lunacy esp when you figure you probably don't see the person again so if they move you like that what do,you have to lose.

You're right I don't know what she's thinking so unless she tells me how the fukk would I know? A girl that's not interested has no problem telling me no and nothing happened. No charges been filed on me and I took my L and other times I got the W so I'm going to keep rolling with my method. You keep with your cowardly lion way of handling business on this issue but I'm not going to be limited to onlygirls basically at the club FOH.

This is exactly why women are pushing for laws to be passed, because in spite of women making it clear that they do not want to be harassed in public space, you refuse to allow them that because of what YOU know, because YOU can't miss out on an opportunity to enter someone's space uninvited, because YOU are self centered, so don't blame feminism at all, blame yourselves because you're beyond the point of talking to and understanding, you want it your way or the highway so when these women put the police in your life, blame yourself.

What an idiot. If you're intent isn't to hurt them what the hell is there to think about? You worried about her being afraid of you speaking to her? If you're worried about trying not to appear as a creep then....don't be creepy. This mental masturbatory bs you wrote might sound good or even look good on paper for daps. But this has no practical bearing on real life. Who the hell is going around asking for consent to SPEAK to another human being? You have a right to speech in this country no matter who it's to, so yes you are in fact entitled to speak to whomever you like.

And women have no problem disengaging from an interaction, trust me. Some do it every day. They're grown and can handle themselves mr. considerate. Again people throughout history spoke to others without contemplating if they were worthy of their time. You aren't being enlightening or pushing something forward with this nonsense. You're just being an intellectual simp

more self centered nonsense, "I know I'm not bad, so if I can just enter her space and prove it then she'll know too"

 

[Matt504]

[


If you come with respect most women won't have an issue with that.
I met girls getting gas.

your "most women" statistic is something you've pulled out of thin air and demonstrates your thinking when it comes to deciding to enter the space of a total stranger.

"most women won't mind if I enter their space as long as I'm respectful, the ones who DO mind are just stuck up so they don't count"

 

[ralph lauren]

i wanna be my own man.. i dont want other men/woman telling me how to act//

whats manly.. whats not.. i dont have time for that shyt

ill make my own choices

 

[Will Ross]

your "most women" statistic is something you've pulled out of thin air and demonstrates your thinking when it comes to deciding to enter the space of a total stranger.

"most women won't mind if I enter their space as long as I'm respectful, the ones who DO mind are just stuck up so they don't count"

If a woman has an issue with someone comeing up to her respectfully than she is stuck up.

 

[Matt504]

If a woman has an issue with someone comeing up to her respectfully than she is stuck up.

another fine example of why feminism is needed.

This is why Kent can get phone numbers from women and then go batshyt crazy when they don't answer for him or reply to his texts, this is why women are forced to give out fake phone numbers, because men really don't get it and REFUSE to so they have to do these things for their safety in a world where men feel entitled to their space, time and phone numbers.

 

[philmonroe]

This is exactly why women are pushing for laws to be passed, because in spite of women making it clear that they do not want to be harassed in public space, you refuse to allow them that because of what YOU know, because YOU can't miss out on an opportunity to enter someone's space uninvited, because YOU are self centered, so don't blame feminism at all, blame yourselves because you're beyond the point of talking to and understanding, you want it your way or the highway so when these women put the police in your life, blame yourself.



more self centered nonsense, "I know I'm not bad, so if I can just enter her space and prove it then she'll know too"

I don't give a fukk what laws they want to get passed don't have shyt to do with me. Its for you awkward boys that's scarred to talk to women so when you do you sound like predators. Didn't know EVERY woman didn't want men approaching them thanks for letting me know champ. Yep I'm self centered and so is everyone else but since you a chump you play hide the banana. You type of dudes are the worse. Show me where I blamed feminism for anything or shut that bullshyt up in regards to talking about me saying such. Simping dudes get used as emotional tampons stop doing it to yourself fam

 

[Will Ross]

another fine example of why feminism is needed.

This is why Kent can get phone numbers from women and then go batshyt crazy when they don't answer for him or reply to his texts, this is why women are forced to give out fake phone numbers, because men really don't get it and REFUSE to so they have to do these things for their safety in a world where men feel entitled to their space, time and phone numbers.

Most women are abused by men they know not random men.

 

[Kenny West]

This is exactly why women are pushing for laws to be passed, because in spite of women making it clear that they do not want to be harassed in public space, you refuse to allow them that because of what YOU know, because YOU can't miss out on an opportunity to enter someone's space uninvited, because YOU are self centered, so don't blame feminism at all, blame yourselves because you're beyond the point of talking to and understanding, you want it your way or the highway so when these women put the police in your life, blame yourself.



more self centered nonsense, "I know I'm not bad, so if I can just enter her space and prove it then she'll know too"

lol....Whatever you say buddy. the pedestal is heavy with this one

Matt 504 from 20 yards away: "EXCUSE ME MADAM! MAY I HAVE YOUR PERMISSION TO SPEAK TO YOU?"

 

[Matt504]

Most women are abused by men they know not random men.

And somehow you probably take that to mean "if women are abused by the men they know and should trust, they should be trustworthy of absolute strangers that they know nothing at all about because strangers have never abused them"

 

[Concerning VIolence]

Most women are abused by men they know not random men.

and street crime is lower than it has been for years.