Has Bruce Wayne ever been an interesting character?

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broken psychopathic man beating up on people who are direct victims of his families wealth & politics.
Don't try to make that the new canon. Why can't Thomas and Martha just be good people? Isn't it enough drama that Martha Wayne was Martha Arkham in some cases?
 

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Folks don't realize that Bruce Wayne is the alter-ego and Batman is the real individual. The charismatic playboy billionaire is the mask for the broken psychopathic man beating up on people who are direct victims of his families wealth & politics.
I guess it's not entirely fair to say that Batman is the true person though. Batman is 3 parts. 2 personas shown to people that don't know his identify and the actual person. Mostly the only people that get to see the real person know Bruce is Batman. The Batfamily, Justice League, Alfred ect.

There are times he has on the mask and he's his true self and times he takes it off he's his true self. The opposite is also true. The comparisons to Spider-Man aren't fair because Peter Parker is the actual person and even when he puts on the mask he's still Peter Parker underneath it. He's not juggling personas.
 
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I think the "Bruce Wayne is the alter ego" is overstated. He might be more comfortable as batman as an adult fighting crime but he grew up Bruce Wayne. He was raised by Alfred, and trained to become the alter ego of batman.

A better example is superman. Kal-El IS SUPERMAN. He is always superman. Clark Kent is a mask he puts on. Clark Kent as a kid was pretending to be a normal boy. He never was. He's not human. He is superman.

Batman can literally retire and has. Superman can't. The same goes for Wonder Woman.
 

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I think the "Bruce Wayne is the alter ego" is overstated. He might be more comfortable as batman as an adult fighting crime but he grew up Bruce Wayne. He was raised by Alfred, and trained to become the alter ego of batman.

A better example is superman. Kal-El IS SUPERMAN. He is always superman. Clark Kent is a mask he puts on. Clark Kent as a kid was pretending to be a normal boy. He never was. He's not human. He is superman.

Batman can literally retire and has. Superman can't. The same goes for Wonder Woman.
He stopped being Bruce Wayne the day his parents died.
 

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bruce is intentionally dull since he is inauthentic to a degree. BTAS epsiode "the forgotten" is a great one that shows that the character is compelling when he is neither bruce or batman
 
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He stopped being Bruce Wayne the day his parents died.
That's just not true. He was a troubled or "broken" kid, like many, but he wasn't batman until he trained to be batman physically, and trained to be the world's greatest detective.

That is one of those things that sounds right, but if you lay out his life it's not accurate. That actually applies to dikk GRAYSON. He started training as Robin literally the day his parents died.
 

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Don't try to make that the new canon. Why can't Thomas and Martha just be good people? Isn't it enough drama that Martha Wayne was Martha Arkham in some cases?

because that makes bruce wayne boring (according to some).

Props to DC for actually trying to tell a Bruce Wayne Pre-Year One story (The Knight, iirc).

Hell, I think one of the main plot points of the anime Big O was Roger Smith was a non-batman Bruce Wayne.
 

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Have you ever seen Parker train at anything? Work to improve his fighting skills by studying with anyone? Ever?


He trained with Shang-Chi, but your point is still accurate to his character. I like Spider Man but it sucks that Marvel has decided to make him a forever man child.
 

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That's just not true. He was a troubled or "broken" kid, like many, but he wasn't batman until he trained to be batman physically, and trained to be the world's greatest detective.

That is one of those things that sounds right, but if you lay out his life it's not accurate. That actually applies to dikk GRAYSON. He started training as Robin literally the day his parents died.
It honestly depends on what version of Bruce you are reading/ watching.

There's so many stories, graphic novels, origin stories done by different authors with different takes on the character. You read the Frank Miller version of the character and he was batman from his parents murder. You watch Batman the Animated Series and you have very different version of Bruce where he was just as much as Batman as he was Bruce Wayne.
 
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He trained with Shang-Chi, but your point is still accurate to his character. I like Spider Man but it sucks that Marvel has decided to make him a forever man child.

And stopped bothering with said training the second his spider-senses kicked back in.:pachaha:
Have you ever seen Parker train at anything? Work to improve his fighting skills by studying with anyone? Ever? Nope. It's all instinctive/reactive.
Parker literally does on the job training lol. Dude learned by fukkin up and thru experience :heh:
 
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