Norrin Radd
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This is going to be one hell of a 'based on a true story' movie in thirty years 
Harvey Weinstein Brehs
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To a certain extent I understand both perspectives and I don't want to dismiss either.
Do I want to brush the victims here with the they were naive, were held hostage, physically threatened?
I'm sure they heard the rumors, stories about him, actors were making tongue in cheek remarks about his sexual deviancy at the Oscar's even. Hollywood knew.
And my experience with women they're not stupid, they have a very sharp intuition when someone has an agenda is being a creep.
I think there comes a point in time when you're in the company of an opposite gender and realize okay maybe I'm giving him/her the wrong impression and those warning signs you should adhere to them and leave their presence, shut it down instantly.
This is me looking at it from my perspective as a male... My work environment consists of young attractive women and there is a age disparity between us, they develop a school girl crush, its the only way I can call it.
And I know when I'm giving someone the wrong impression and I cut the short stuff short usually telling them you're like a younger sister I don't see you like that.
Of course a lot of money is at stake, reputation, career suicide... It's not entirely the same but I guess if you value your dignity if that is your primary concern than none of that should matter.
Irregardless the benefit of the doubt here goes to the victim and clearly here if it was consensual or not he used his position of power to his advantage.
Do I want to brush the victims here with the they were naive, were held hostage, physically threatened?
I'm sure they heard the rumors, stories about him, actors were making tongue in cheek remarks about his sexual deviancy at the Oscar's even. Hollywood knew.
And my experience with women they're not stupid, they have a very sharp intuition when someone has an agenda is being a creep.
I think there comes a point in time when you're in the company of an opposite gender and realize okay maybe I'm giving him/her the wrong impression and those warning signs you should adhere to them and leave their presence, shut it down instantly.
This is me looking at it from my perspective as a male... My work environment consists of young attractive women and there is a age disparity between us, they develop a school girl crush, its the only way I can call it.
And I know when I'm giving someone the wrong impression and I cut the short stuff short usually telling them you're like a younger sister I don't see you like that.
Of course a lot of money is at stake, reputation, career suicide... It's not entirely the same but I guess if you value your dignity if that is your primary concern than none of that should matter.
Irregardless the benefit of the doubt here goes to the victim and clearly here if it was consensual or not he used his position of power to his advantage.
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Devilinurear
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I was with until you used irregardless
No you're right each case is different, there should never be an irregardless... I used the term for Weinstein.
Generally speaking I would lean towards the victim but that is only if the accused has a history.
And given this situation I would be hard pressed to feel any remorse or sorrow for Weinstein given the the level of accusations and how many victims are coming out and also the lengths he went to try to make this go away. So yeah if it walks like a duck...
steadyrighteous
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Perfectson
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Perfectson
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Perfectson
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okay take your ball and go home.
women aren't naive or stupid, anyone who has a job knows what's up and you've seen it all. If you would have smashed one of these chics at work, they get angry and tell on you, you're fired for sexual assault...is it your fault that power has allure? Power has more allure than puzzy sometimes, these women fall all over themselves. They allow you to do things to them and defintely won't remove themselves from these situations.
It really takes balls , to allegedly been rape, get paid $100k, get made a star, and then on your decline you decide to step forward. Is there a coincidence that are career derailed when she decided to step forward.
Again not making light of any rape that might have occured, which is dispicable if true. But I really dont' care if a guy uses his standing to get free CONSENSUAL puzzy/sex. That's not rape nor sexual assault and you shouldn't allow indecisive women to look back , feel guitly, reflect and try to damage people's reputation because they feel bad about themselves. and you call name call all you want and take the extreme approach and call me a rape apologist or whatever tom foolery you wanna spout but it's BS some of the shyt i'm hearing
NobodyReally
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So it takes a history of rape for you to believe someone was raped? Those first few rape victims are just shyt out of luck, huh? You guys are scary. No wonder no one comes forward. A dude has to be known for raping 10 or more women before the first victim is even believed. What if that same standard was applied to all crime? fukk this, I'm not debating with rape apologists. Sick.
Perfectson
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i think it's the sign of the times, when that is the rule or mindset. You shouldn't have to be a serial rapist to be put down, so I disagree with the guy and how he articulated that. AT the same time, you have women LYING about rape and sexual assault and people are opportunistic especially women when they see men in the limelight. They have no problem making up stories just to get their 15 minutes of fame. It's unfortunate - men have had history of raping and assaulting women and it should be put in the open. at the same time, women have a history of lying or embellishing encounters with men. I'm not here to talk percentages because it's such a fine line the way it's defined now. When Rape was Rape and meant someone physically forced themselves onto you. Not all this " he used his influence to make me take off my panties or give him oral sex".... I wish I had that Jedi Mind power.
I read this excerpt (and i'm paraphrasing) about a woman who said she befriended her rapist. She details the act of the rape and basically said she was at his house and I believe in his bed, they were making out, he got her undressed and she "coo'd" (my words not hers) "no we shouldn't be doing this" and he did it anyway. She didn't try to stop him, she didn't scream bloody murder, she casually said a very generic term and years later she puts the situation on blast and claims she was raped. Apparantly this guy is a colleague who helped her get started as a journalist.
This is the stuff that needs to stop, women will 75% of the time look back at situations and find some fault in it and men need to stand the fukk up. I hope Weinstein gets what is coming to him for anything he actually did wrong and his pervision is now known...but he should also out any women he paid for sex or exchanged sex for movie parts. so we can see how they defend themselves from being "slut shammed". You can be a slut , dont' get any shame about it and get to call men who engaged with you in their own pervision rapists/and sexual assualters. What a ting.
steadyrighteous
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You know what else is crazy?
In the thread on the recent case about the actor from Gossip Girl who allegedly raped a woman, some dude posted "And I don't know who to believe. Cuz I don't know who either of these people are."
So what, if you're familiar with one and not the other or you knew both but one was significantly more famous than the other you'd be able to judge whether a rape took place?
Please stop with the fake outrage you've misinterpreted what I said entirely. My point being was I more than likely will always give the benefit of the doubt to the victim and even more so if the accused has a history of deviant behavior...
On the flip side women know how to play the victim card they are not these naive, innocent creatures that need you to save them. To take that and call me a rape apologist and cry, stop it. It's ridiculous.
And I've had nothing but positive experiences interacting with the opposite gender, there has to be objectivity regardless of the situation.
I'm speaking generally here, nothing to do with Weinstein or rape.
Pathetic.
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