NobodyReally
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Scribe is an actual civil rights attorney and has probably done more to help victims of sexual abuse than anyone on this board. What you just did is wrong. Number one, people need to stop with the super lazy compare everything to black people argument that does more to get an emotional reaction than demonstrate an actual parallel. Number 2, he never put up the standard you just said or that @Rekkapryde cosigned. You just blatantly misrepresented to make your point. He said that the problem is that no one takes these people seriously to even investigate their claims. You don't solve that by saying then overturning the entire premise of our legal system and saying someone is guilty until proven innocent. No one argues that with black people and none of the civil rights laws do that. They use case specific statistics to show that their is discrimination in the instant case. No one goes to court and says black people get paid less than white people in society as a whole therefore it is on this corporation to show why that guy getting paid 5 dollars less is not being racially discriminated against. Instead, he is compared to his peers at his workplace, etc. Scribe's point is that you don't say "most women don't report rape" and therefore the court should now, based on nothing but he say she say determine that the accused is guilty until proven otherwise and that the burden of evidence is shifted. Always belieiving a woman and innocent until proven guilty are mutually exclusive. This is the exact logic that led to fukk ups like UVA as he cited. One of the greatest stories about capturing a serial rapist involved a female detective who said you should never take anyone's word as true but instead follow every contradictory lead when someone claims rape because of how traumatic it is. This social media ass logic a lot of you are running with makes no sense in a courtroom. Imagine citing black on black crime as a reason why it is more probable than not that the accused who is black is the person who shot the black plaintiff. If you want to talk about changing how rape is investigated that is one thing and coming up with a prima facie standard but what you're pushing makes no sense to most men and women.
I'm not gonna get into a back and forth with you about what some civil rights lawyer thinks. It's not gonna sway how I feel about sexual abuse and their victims. I'm not a cop, I'm not a lawyer, and I'm a juror or prosecutor. This is my opinion. As a black person, as a woman, and as a former counselor who worked with abuse victims, I do not ever place the burden of proof on the victim. If you have ever served in a counseling role or advocate for abuse victim and you come at them asking them to present proof before they get help, you would not be a good counselor or advocate. Your point of view and approach is for someone who deals in the legalities of these situations. My point of view is someone who deals with the psychological trauma and healing in these situations. As counselors, as advocates, as hotline operators, we don't ever ask for "proof" before helping folks. You're not gonna change anyone who helps victims minds about that, because it's just not a good approach for those who want to help victims. So we'll just agree to disagree.