Harvard Scientists Studied the Brains of Pot Smokers, and the Results Don't Look Good

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Dog are you serious right now? What is your angle? This study is a fukking JOKE. computational biologist of UC Berkley Lior Pachter called it "quite possibly the worst paper I've ever read"

https://liorpachter.wordpress.com/2...sual-marijuana-use-cause-brain-abnormalities/


The lead author of the paper stated that marijuana shouldn't be legalized and that no one under the age of 30 should use marijuana. If marijuana actually caused dangerous brain abnormalities, do you seriously think the government wouldn't be plastering it all over everything? It's obvious cigarettes cause cancer, alcohol causes liver failure and cancer, etc. Marijuana has been use for long enough that any particularly negative qualities would be OBVIOUS.

Are you in denial that this is actually a well performed "study"?

Oh and get this: The researchers didn't release ANY of their data. :laff:
Yeah like we going to take anything a UC Berkeley proffessor says about weed serious :comeon: it's Berkeley for cryin out loud

They're not gonna release their data until they do a more official study with more test subjects, but it ain't lookin too good for you dope heads :flabbynsick:
 

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more fear mongering pseudoscience bullshyt. They didn't control for other drug use, they didn't do ANY cognitive tests to see if there were any differences, insanely small sample sizes, clickbait nonsense.

1) Wrong. They excluded people using other drugs except for alcohol, which they discussed extensively.

"Marijuana participants were not excluded if they had used other illegal drugs in the past; however, they were excluded if they met abuse criteria for any drug other than marijuana... We performed a urine drug screen that tested for cannabis, amphetamines, cocaine, barbiturates, methamphetamines, benzodiazepines, codeine, morphine, and ethanol."

2) No need to do cognitive tests. The outcome in this study was IMAGING changes, not CLINICAL markers.
 

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dudes really wanna pretend weed is some miracle drug though.

Smoking anything is bad for you.
this is truth but, also common sense that inhaling smoke is damaging. the issue is all the far out unproven effects of marijuana as if it's on the level of the chemicals in cigarettes.
 
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Perfectly fine, those aren't cerebral drugs

Now wut do their liver and lungs look like is a better question
You can't be serious...
(1) If alcohol does not affect the brain, how do people get drunk...? How do alcoholics develop dependency...? Why do alcoholics have tremors...? :mjlol:

(2) Look up Korsakoff Syndrome/Dementia...:mjlol:

(3) All these substances that distort your sense of reality can't possibly be good in the long run...I use to support Legalizing Marijuana, until I started working in a mental Hospital and started seeing so many young people developing psychosis after smoking weed...

 

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It said it affected tha amyglada and that's part of tha brain you never want to mess with

And I guess you missed tha part where it lowered IQ scores
What? You are just repeating what the article said, because any person who knows something about the brain knows that is total bullshyt.

The amygdala deals with threats, and fear, so you do want to mess with it, if you want a peaceful environment. Why do you think people who have been in stressful situations, can't get over it even though the situation is gone? Their amygdala is sensitive, and constantly active. Calming it down brings peace. This is why marijuana helps p.t.s.d victims so well, it lower amygdala activity. The same with constant meditation. Why do you think a combination of marijuana and meditation, is so powerful?

As far as lower iq, that can be manipulated with, so I don't really put too much value in that. There are more ways to test intelligence then that. Plus, I didn't read anything about an IQ test, so you have to prove that one to me.

Please stop repeating what you read without thinking about it first.
 

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You can't be serious...
(1) If alcohol does not affect the brain, how do people get drunk...? How do alcoholics develop dependency...? Why do alcoholics have tremors...? :mjlol:

(2) Look up Korsakoff Syndrome/Dementia...:mjlol:

(3) All these substances that distort your sense of reality can't possibly be good in the long run...I use to support Legalizing Marijuana, until I started working in a mental Hospital and started seeing so many young people developing psychosis after smoking weed...
I agree, but I think more info should be put out on marijuana. I really feel the psychosis comes NOT from weed, but the person smoking weed continuously with a poor diet, and a stressed brain. The herb just made them snap, but it wasn't the cause. Because herb is illegal, a lot of misinformation was out there in the past, and still is. I think legalization is what's needed, BUT I think if corporations, and money hungry people steer the direction of where the marijuana community goes, it won't be good for the future.

Unfortunately, I see this happening now, because I see too much shyt about dabbing, and smoking all day, or trying to put weed in everything, just to get money, and less about just sitting back, and enjoying a nice vape session, or a nice joint, or a nice hash session off of very little hash being that it's so potent. I really feel if herb is used like I stated, with a proper diet, it will actually help bring proper health to people, as its preventative medicine, as well as help those who are sick.
 

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What? You are just repeating what the article said, because any person who knows something about the brain knows that is total bullshyt.

The amygdala deals with threats, and fear, so you do want to mess with it, if you want a peaceful environment. Why do you think people who have been in stressful situations, can't get over it even though the situation is gone? Their amygdala is sensitive, and constantly active. Calming it down brings peace. This is why marijuana helps p.t.s.d victims so well, it lower amygdala activity. The same with constant meditation. Why do you think a combination of marijuana and meditation, is so powerful?

As far as lower iq, that can be manipulated with, so I don't really put too much value in that. There are more ways to test intelligence then that. Plus, I didn't read anything about an IQ test, so you have to prove that one to me.

Please stop repeating what you read without thinking about it first.
Lol @ bringing down amygdala levels, FOH with your quack science

any drug altering that area is not a good thing, you don't know wut weed duz to it, u just making up pseudo intellectual bullshyt as you go along to feel better about your argument, but your only hurting yourself :francis:
 

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Lol @ bringing down amygdala levels, FOH with your quack science

any drug altering that area is not a good thing, you don't know wut weed duz to it, u just making up pseudo intellectual bullshyt as you go along to feel better about your argument, but your only hurting yourself :francis:

http://news.vanderbilt.edu/2014/03/discovery-sheds-new-light-on-marijuana-anxiety-relief-effects/
Discovery sheds new light on marijuana’s anxiety relief effects

"An international group led by Vanderbilt University researchers has found cannabinoid receptors, through which marijuana exerts its effects, in a key emotional hub in the brain involved in regulating anxiety and the flight-or-fight response.

This is the first time cannabinoid receptors have been identified in the central nucleus of the amygdala in a mouse model, they report in the current issue of the journal Neuron"

The natural endocannabinoid system regulates anxiety and the response to stress by dampening excitatory signals that involve the neurotransmitter glutamate.

• Chronic stress or acute, severe emotional trauma can cause a reduction in both the production of endocannabinoids and the responsiveness of the receptors. Without their “buffering” effect, anxiety goes up.

• While marijuana’s “exogenous” cannabinoids also can reduce anxiety, chronic use of the drug down-regulates the receptors, paradoxically increasing anxiety. This can trigger “a vicious cycle” of increasing marijuana use that in some cases leads to addiction.
What you say there now?:sas1:

@nineteeneightysix if you read the last line, you can see why I think a poor diet, and a stressed brain makes some snap. If they are constantly smoking, and then living a poor lifestyle, I think this causes the amygdala to be highly active, and that's why you are seeing weed smokers being connected to the people you see snap in mental facilities. Herb needs to be part of a healthy lifestyle, or at least a "normal" one. If a person just eats junkfood that is void in a lot of nutrients or unbalanced, and they also have a stressful environment, they either need no herb(in extreme cases) or just very little of it weekly. I think they should still take it in this case because it can help them see the two states of mind they're in. One of stress, and one of relaxation. They just need guidance on how to stay in relaxed mode without needing weed all the time.
 
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http://news.vanderbilt.edu/2014/03/discovery-sheds-new-light-on-marijuana-anxiety-relief-effects/
Discovery sheds new light on marijuana’s anxiety relief effects

"An international group led by Vanderbilt University researchers has found cannabinoid receptors, through which marijuana exerts its effects, in a key emotional hub in the brain involved in regulating anxiety and the flight-or-fight response.

This is the first time cannabinoid receptors have been identified in the central nucleus of the amygdala in a mouse model, they report in the current issue of the journal Neuron"
What you say there now?:sas1:
Wuts your point? :wtf:
 
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