Handcuffed inmate beaten to death. What purpose we want prison to serve?

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Did it ever occur to you that the fault may lie with the prison system itself?

Like, why are you using overseer language? Your job isn't to 'break' them, weirdo.

I'm disgusted that my tax dollars are being used to fund the lives of sociopaths who are free to interact with the rest of us like they're normal, to raise future little sociopaths, beat their wives, stalk their exes... sick people who should be quarantined away from us as much as the criminals.

Do you recognize why many neighborhoods and communities are hell? It's because they're being held hostage by men who never had to submit to any rules or authority. Their mother, father, school, neighborhood...they've never been disciplined from their bad behavior. They've never received an ass whippin from someone in a position of authority.

They grew crooked and were never broken to correct their posture.
 

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Do you recognize why many neighborhoods and communities are hell? It's because they're being held hostage by men who never had to submit to any rules or authority. Their mother, father, school, neighborhood...they've never been disciplined from their bad behavior. They've never received an ass whippin from someone in a position of authority.

They grew crooked and were never broken to correct their posture.
If your “authority” starts and stops with a time sheet then you don’t have it. You people are unskilled workers and mostly uneducated. That is not a position to hold authority over anyone. That is the catalyst to much of the systemic problem she’s speaking about.
 

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Do you recognize why many neighborhoods and communities are hell? It's because they're being held hostage by men who never had to submit to any rules or authority. Their mother, father, school, neighborhood...they've never been disciplined from their bad behavior. They've never received an ass whippin from someone in a position of authority.

They grew crooked and were never broken to correct their posture.
:mjlol: And you really said this dumb shyt like it was scripture.

On the contrary, the violent and unruly are usually the subset of the population who were abused the most. Don't worry, mama beat they ass, granny beat they ass, cops beat they ass, and here yall come, next in the line up. I'm sure the 99th ass whooping will be the one that finally 'takes.' 🤞🏽

I know you're wrong because of the recidivism rates, btw. If the American carceral state was so good at "breaking" bm -which, DISGUSTING shyt to say once, much less repeat- our shyt should be looking like Norway. And they got your dumb ass in here parroting the bs. You should be ashamed, and kept away from the rest of us.
 

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The disconnect is in your brain.

Employees of the state aren't mandated to beat people up and or kill people. The staff is supposed to protect you until you aren't convicted and do what they can to insure that you serve your time or conditions of your sentence. Not partake in your beatings or your death. What happens between inmates is between them. Employees of the state are supposed to uphold what's left of your constitutional rights, including trial by a jury of your peers, due process, etc.

Inmates are going to get what's coming to them one way or another.

If they want to be tough or prove a point then they can put their job duties aside and square up. When you hit them it's personal and legal, when they hit you, it's just business.

You're not up to date with current prison politics. These inmates ARE NOT getting what's coming to them. Not relying upon other inmates.

They view their incarceration as yeah they can't move in the free world, but they got motion in prison. They're still selling drugs and hurting people.

I don't think COs should be killing inmates or going around selecting inmates for beating. But I do believe non-compliant inmates who are still disregarding laws should get the beats.
 

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Prisoners are wards of the state. The state is responsible for their care and safety. Solitary should be the absolute last option.

How good are parents at raising kids who can tell them to kiss their ass and they're not doing shyt they say?

Schools became hell when school administrators could no longer paddle them.

The military went to shyt when drill sergeants could no longer put them paws on you.

There's a pattern here! Some people (not all) only respect authority that can physically discipline them.
 

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:mjlol: And you really said this dumb shyt like it was scripture.

On the contrary, the violent and unruly are usually the subset of the population who were abused the most. Don't worry, mama beat they ass, granny beat they ass, cops beat they ass, and here yall come, next in the line up. I'm sure the 99th ass whooping will be the one that finally 'takes.' 🤞🏽

I know you're wrong because of the recidivism rates, btw. If the American carceral state was so good at "breaking" bm -which, DISGUSTING shyt to say once, much less repeat- our shyt should be looking like Norway. And they got your dumb ass in here parroting the bs. You should be ashamed, and kept away from the rest of us.

It sounds dumb to you perhaps because you haven't worked with people as I have. I know human nature from my time being a soldier, deputy, federal agent, social worker. I KNOW PEOPLE'S BEHAVIOR.

People who've had foot put in their ass by authority figures...they know when to sit down and stfu. Because they know it's a no win situation.

And there's a difference between abuse and discipline. There's a difference in getting your ass beat by a crackhead momma, and a momma who's holding you accountable. That's why I said a beating from a position of authority.

Inmates who were imprisoned before these new ways HATE this present inmates.

The rate of recidivism (sp) is awful due to multiple reasons. To include "prison isn't so bad for the savage"
 

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If your “authority” starts and stops with a time sheet then you don’t have it. You people are unskilled workers and mostly uneducated. That is not a position to hold authority over anyone. That is the catalyst to much of the systemic problem she’s speaking about.

Facts.

The dumbest mouth breathing mfers in the American law enforcement system are correctional officers. Most of these "correctional facilities" are in bumblefukk areas of the state and draw from the local population for employment. I wouldn't trust these yokels to fix my fast food order correctly.

So damn stupid that they beat a man to death and didn't realize the cameras have a look back feature and records automatically. :francis:
 

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Inmates who were imprisoned before these new ways HATE this present inmates.

The rate of recidivism (sp) is awful due to multiple reasons. To include "prison isn't so bad for the savage"
You do realize they built supermax prisons because of those "inmates who were imprisoned before these new ways" right:comeon: Truth be told these new nikkas yap alot but are TAME compared to them boys back in the day.



These the old inmates you talking about? The ones that took over a entire prison then proceeded to rape the CO's and kill 33 other inmates :mjgrin:
 

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Does the family of the young lady he stabbed feel justice was served?

He victimized someone, a pregnant girlfriend by stabbing her 14 times. When he was caught and people probably said "good lock his ass up, he's going get his in prison" were we just capping? Do we really want them to continue their violence in prison while officers just watch?
If innmates want to handle him. So be it. Cops shouldnt be doing this, eespecially wheb they are white...we dont really know if they'd have the same smoke for a white culprit or if they are masking a hate crime.
 

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Actually there is another way to make prisons almost completely safe for inmates.

We had a wing at our State prison reserved for the most violent inmates. The cells on this wing had bars, but then outside the bars you also had a steel door that you could shut and wouldn't hear a peep from them. One man cells. Locked down except for rec.

Never had any incidents there.

These prisons with general pop and open dorms are unmanageable. And quite frankly if I were an inmate who got attacked by other inmates in that setting I'd be trying to sue the State.
 

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It's dressed up but make no mistake the country is still barbaric...

They weren't abusing just anyone, they abused a guy convicted of stabbing his pregnant girlfriend 14 times and is currently in State custody.

So I ask, what do you want prison to be like for someone who stabbed your pregnant sister or daughter 14 times? Are you going to march for them?
This is too emotional. You set boundaries in order to not set terrible precedents.

This line of thinking is merely on a micro level instead of a macro one.

In rule of any leadership, you stop shyt like this in order to prevent future less deserved mishaps. We should be able to trust that our police will act as they should.

Now if the police wanna pull a Dahmer, thats more the way to do it.
 
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