Grim History Traced in Sunken Slave Ship Found Off South Africa

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All these postings stemmed from a post (that was cosigned by Blessup) in another thread that said Blacks in the Americas are not Africans and descend from an aboriginal Black group native to the Americas. No one in here denied that Africans had been in the Americas prior to Europeans

now we're getting into semantics. everyone is african if you go back far enough. its possible that most african-americans are decended from the initial wave of black people that colonized the americas. another group is descended from that later wave that came from west africa willingly. and then a final and mostly likely smallest group is descended from the trans-atlantic slave trade.

the evidence right now weights heavily on there being a SIGNIFICANT native black population in the Americas before Columbus. whether most of those natives were those that came in the last 2000 years from West Africa or 20,000 years ago from the Pacific, is up for debate.

I personally don't think we have enough information to completely dismiss the possibility that MOST african americans are descended from that earlier wave of black natives.
 

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Those are Asians they have no ties to Africa and haven't for 30,000 years :yeshrug:
Ok well if you have proof of "asians" looking like that in Asia, is it safe to say the negros in america looked similar? Black/brown skin, nappy hair, thick lips/full nose, etc.
 
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They left Africa 30,000 years ago. They are not Black to me.

Even if you call them Black, AAs and Caribbean don't have the hair types, eye colors or aquiline features to come from them.

Melanesians look more like East Africans than West Africans.

well i don't care what YOU think. everyone else in the world will call them black.
 

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Ok well if you have proof of "asians" looking like that in Asia, is it safe to say the negros in america looked similar? Black/brown skin, nappy hair, thick lips/full nose, etc.

I told YOU SE Asians came to America :dead:

SE Asians look East African not West African.


well i don't care what YOU think. everyone else in the world will call them black.

Most people call them Asians.
 

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now we're getting into semantics. everyone is african if you go back far enough. its possible that most african-americans are decended from the initial wave of black people that colonized the americas. another group is descended from that later wave that came from west africa willingly. and then a final and mostly likely smallest group is descended from the trans-atlantic slave trade.

the evidence right now weights heavily on there being a SIGNIFICANT native black population in the Americas before Columbus. whether most of those natives were those that came in the last 2000 years from West Africa or 20,000 years ago from the Pacific, is up for debate.

I personally don't think we have enough information to completely dismiss the possibility that MOST african americans are descended from that earlier wave of black natives.

doggy, it is not semantics to say that Blacks in the Americas dont descend from African people it is pure nonsense. And I know that isn't what you were saying but it was what was being discussed before you got here.

Question for the crowd that thinks the majority of Afro people in the Americas descended from Africans who were here before the slave trade. I can provide census data on the Black population in cities like Mexico City, Buenos Aires, or Lima (census' which have historically always understated black population) over several decades during the time of slavery, I'm wondering if you guys have any sources that show even speculative data about the number of Africans in various countries in Central/South America prior to..lets say 1580, just so we can do a comparison.
 

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no. they're called NEGRITOS. aka lil nikkas.

Based off a term by the very same racist you claim are distorting :mjlol:

geneticist, archeologist, historians will all state they are asians who were the 1st to migrate from Africa into a tropic zone similar to SSA thus retaining certain phenotypes.
 

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no. they're called NEGRITOS. aka lil nikkas.
I posted this in another thread:
NO! I used to think it's possible, but we are too broken as a people. Just look at this thread:
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/grim...ve-ship-found-off-south-africa.323953/page-13

Our people aren't even OPEN to considering anything thats not endorsed by masta. Most of our people are broken, defeated, and products of white supremacy, willie lynch syndrome, public school mis-education, media propaganda, and inferiority complex. Its frustrating. I give up. :scust:

@Poitier @Primetime21 are perfect examples of this. No matter how much evidence is presented, they will continue to talk in circles. In their minds, they cannot fathom blacks traveling to the americas before white masta messiah and asians. Its impossible to them. To them our history begins and ends as slaves from west africa.:scust: Dudes may really be paid disinformation agents. Trying to disrupt whatever knowledge is spread amongst our peoples.
 

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Africans were obviously the 1st people everywhere. Asians and Whites are at the core.....African.
 

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I posted this in another thread:


@Poitier @Primetime21 are perfect examples of this. No matter how much evidence is presented, they will continue to talk in circles. In their minds, they cannot fathom blacks traveling to the americas before white masta messiah and asians. Its impossible to them. To them our history begins and ends as slaves from west africa.:scust:

You're a youtube scholar, be a man about yourself and stop lying about what I never said. When this shyt kicked off yesterday I was the first to say our history, that is black people in America began before slave ships. And here you are telling me that I said the opposite.

do you mind answering

Question for the crowd that thinks the majority of Afro people in the Americas descended from Africans who were here before the slave trade. I can provide census data on the Black population in cities like Mexico City, Buenos Aires, or Lima (census' which have historically always understated black population) over several decades during the time of slavery, I'm wondering if you guys have any sources that show even speculative data about the number of Africans in various countries in Central/South America prior to..lets say 1580, just so we can do a comparison.
 

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Negritos are midgets, can have blonde hair, straight hair, blue eyes, narrow features without mixing and you think AAs come from them :russ:
 
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