Grim History Traced in Sunken Slave Ship Found Off South Africa

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Still missing the point. Not sure if your doing this on purpose or you genuinely dont understand.

When Europeans arrived in the Americas (North/South and Carrib) they described the "natives" as resembling Africans. Black or brown, short crispy-hair, big nose/lips negroes. Their words not mine. This is according to BBC and Constantine Rafinesque

From Rafinesque' journal

The Americans cannot have sprung from a single nation, because independently of the languages, their features and complexions are as various as in Africa and Asia. -- We find in America; white, tawny, brown, yellow, olive, copper, and even black nations as in Africa. Also dwarfs and giants, handsome and ugly features, flat and aquiline noses, thick and thin lips

He says in the same journal that

I had always believed that the Atlantes of Africa have partly colonized America,

This doesnt support any theory that Black people as we know them in the Americas descend from an aboriginal group native to North or South America.
 

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From Rafinesque' journal



He says in the same journal that



This doesnt support any theory that Black people as we know them in the Americas descend from an aboriginal group native to North or South America.

Not sure if you picked it up but according to the BBC documentary:
1. Blacks arrived in the america's first (or was native)

2. Then came Asians/Indian looking people (1000s of years later). These Asians/Indian looking people began to fight with the black people. They also began to breed with them. So of course is going to be a range of mixed breed looking people in the Americas. But this came later.

3. Why do you think it was 100's of different tribes throughout the Americas? Some black tribes remained seperate, some indian/asian remained seperate, some tribes intermarried/mixed. We are talking about a huge land mass here: some parts of canada, america, south america, and the carribbean.

4. After all of this happened, Cac's came.


Why would it be so impossible for this to happen?
 
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Not sure if you picked it up but according to the BBC documentary:
1. Blacks arrived in the america's first (or was native)

2. Then came Asians/Indian looking people (1000s of years later). These Asians/Indian looking people began to fight with the black people. They also began to breed with them. So of course is going to be some mixed looking people in the America.

3. Why do you think it was 100's of different tribes throughout the Americas? Some black tribes remained seperate, some indian/asian remained seperate, some tribes intermarried/mixed. We are talking about a huge land mass here: some parts of canada, america, south america, and the carribbean.

4. After all of this happened, Cac's came.


Why would it be so impossible for this to happen?
Let me ask you something, do you study this subject? I dont mean bouncing from youtube video to youtube video or reading screenshots from tumblr, I want to understand how you got your knowledge base so I can know how to talk to you and answer your questions.
 

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Let me ask you something, do you study this subject? I dont mean bouncing from youtube video to youtube video or reading screenshots from tumblr, I want to understand how you got your knowledge base so I can know how to talk to you and answer your questions.

Why couldn't you simply respond to what I just presented? In that I post didn't I mention the source? I clearly said "based on BBC." Is BBC not a credible source?

The sources have been listed throughout the thread.:what:
 

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So white people can adapt to the sun and turn back into black people? :wow:

when was this said?

Let me ask you something, do you study this subject? I dont mean bouncing from youtube video to youtube video or reading screenshots from tumblr, I want to understand how you got your knowledge base so I can know how to talk to you and answer your questions.
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the Blacks who left Africa and migrated to Europe via the Caucus/ Central Asia are White now :dwillhuh:
How come cacs that migrated to south africa and australia 400 years ago aren't beginning to turn black or even brown? They still need that sunblock.

They obviously can tell you anything.
 

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How come cacs that migrated to south africa and australia 400 years ago aren't beginning to turn black or even brown? They still need that sunblock.

You mean 200 years ago and it takes 10s of thousands of years to come across adaptive mutations. We don't live in the wild anymore so adaptation is less pronounced :snoop:
 

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So the process isn't reversible? If they lived near the equator for 10 milleniums , they wouldn't turn back into nikkas?

Those who are darker would have a higher chance of reproducing so yes but we don't live i the wild anymore.
 
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How come your DNA comes back as overwhelmingly African when you do autosomal DNA tests, and how come Caribbeans have a lot of African elements to language/dialects (Patois, Creole and in America, Gullah), and African instruments like the marimba, congas, bongos, banjo etc. as well as the actual musical styles/structures/features/dance. Yoruba religion, vodoo/voodun all that shyt too.

You're racially recent African, brehs. The natives are still around and don't look anything like us.

I think you're missing the point. The argument isn't that blacks in the new world are unrelated to africans. but rather that many are descended from africans that SAILED to the new world rather than being brought as slaves. there are oral traditions in Mali about the brother of the great king Mansa Musa sailing west toward a foreign landmass with hundreds of ships and thousands of people. this Mali expedition never returned home.

noted scholars like Ivan Van Sertima believe these west african expeditions to the new world resulted in pre-columbian BLACK COLONIES in the new world that predate any slaves.
 
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