Grim History Traced in Sunken Slave Ship Found Off South Africa

[UserNameless]

Do we have any nutritionist on board? I need someone to address the condition slaves would have been in upon arrival.

After a 4-5 month voyage...man they would have been in bad shape! Even those who survived would not have been worth much right? They would need to be nursed back to health right?

400 people on a ship...have any of you took a cruise? I do it often and with the technology and employees cleaning, after 7 days that ship is . Yall trying to tell me a wooden ship with people shytting, pissing, and bleeding all over the lower level wouldn't kill everyone on there? Crew included.

Chained to the floor for months...you would go crazy!!!! Cholera, typhoid, ebola, etc. Food poisoning kicking our ass in the 21st century on cruises. I know all them nikkas got sea sick, throwing up!

The more you actually think about gtfoh!!!! How long did it take them brothers to be fit for duty after arriving? My mother in law been in the hospital for two weeks and her muscles and weight are atrophied. And they shipped how many slaves over here? Them cacs must have had space ships....

Powerful thread, my Africans... I mean... my Americans... wait....

 

[UserNameless]

I forgot I started reading this book shortly after graduation... some shoot it down and pseudo .... never finished it, tho.

 

[Big D Bangston]

plus it never made any sense to me why europeans had to ship millions of people over from another continent to pick cotton and sugar.

is it really that hard to train indians to pick cotton and sugar?

Indians were dying in huge numbers from disease from white folks. Blacks have/had gene or something making us immune to malaria, but made us vulnerable to sickle cell. Cant post support Right now, maybe later

 

[GetInTheTruck]

This topic is heavy on my FB feed and has been for the past few weeks, I wonder what sparked it?

Pseudo science/history is becoming a very dangerous thing. People literally educating themselves through memes out here.

 

[Poitier]

This topic is heavy on my FB feed and has been for the past few weeks, I wonder what sparked it?

Pseudo science/history is becoming a very dangerous thing. People literally educating themselves through memes out here.

Hidden Colors and a lack of understanding biology, earth science and archaeology.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Ivan Van Sertima wrote about this extensively. he also wrote about the oral traditions in Mali that talk about the fact there were trips made by people from Mali to the West towards foreign lands. Mansa Musa's older brother is said to have led the largest of these expeditions. he took thousands of men and women with him in hundreds of boats. Mansa Musa made his legendary trek to Mecca as a way to try and up his older brother.

They Came Before Columbus by Ivan van Sertima is REQUIRED READING imo for every black person in america and beyond. The book is a treasure of information that white people have tried to destroy.

So why is the language different? Why is the culture different? Why didn't they bring any of their staple crops and animals over here? Where are the records of these voyages?

 

[Primetime21]

plus it never made any sense to me why europeans had to ship millions of people over from another continent to pick cotton and sugar.

is it really that hard to train indians to pick cotton and sugar?

I was going through some of the journals in my collection this is what a french historian of that time period had to say, of course the uncomplaining and accustoming piece is but I underlined the content I thought was relevant to the question.

Besides the fact that a black man can do more work than six Indians, he accustoms himself to slavery, for which he seems to have been created; he is uncomplaining, contents himself with little to eat, and, even on bad food, stays strong and robust. He has a bit of natural pride, but, in order to tame him, a few lashes will suffice to remind him that he has a Master.”

 

[Swagnificent]

So why is the language different? Why is the culture different? Why didn't they bring any of their staple crops and animals over here? Where are the records of these voyages?

da fukk u talkin bout?

 

[KingMalik]

I'm not going to keep going back to this point, because I dont know if you guys are just talking or you are sincerely generally misinformed.

I dont understand how on one hand some of you cats are praising Mansa Musa for taking hundreds if not thousands of ships across the Atlantic before Europeans did, and then when it comes time to talk about enslaved Africans being forcibly transported along that same path ya'll go to "bu but how is it possible all dem ships made it across the Atlantic with the waves and hurricane "

How long did it take them brothers to be fit for duty after arriving? Many of them DIDNT arrive. That's where the concept of tight ship vs. loose ship came. Ya'll trying to tell me people were shytting and pissing and vomiting...ya'll trying to tell me there wasn't disease and other illness. YES! All of those conditions existed. You buffoons are making the mistake of trying to rationalize the most inhumane act recorded in human history. I know its an ugly history, but I'm telling you the MOST irresponsible thing you can do as a black man is try to minimize this act. Ya'll are going to learn one way or the god damn other. Some of these posts, especially coming from posters who talk themselves up to the be the vanguard or future of the Black union are downright embarassing

Traveling across the Atlantic Ocean in normal, safe conditions like the Malians probably did isn't the same as being packed like sardines 300-400 people to one boat. Come on with that shyt.

 

[Poitier]

300 years prior

 

[Primetime21]

Traveling across the Atlantic Ocean in normal, safe conditions like the Malians probably did isn't the same as being packed like sardines 300-400 people to one boat. Come on with that shyt.

like I said you guys have to stop trying to attach humane conditions to an inhumane act. That's part of the problem, your speculation is born out of the fact that you simply cant believe the inhumanity of it.

 

[Kitsch]