Green Bay fans should direct some of their anger at Jennings

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:beli: cmon man. u sound rediculous bruh. are u really gonna sit up here and say that a pass break up and/or a simple tackle is better than an int or fumble recovery:mindblown: are u aware of how valuable a defensive takeaway/turnover is? are u aware on how strick the nfl officiating has been to restrict dbs from bein physical with recievers? u sound extremely clueless in discussing football. u act like on every play db's are getting burned for 90 yd td's. Have u evr played football? Most db"s arent big enough to wrap up and tackle? they fly to the ball carrier and stop him by any means neccesary.
Gat damn bruh! u have lost your mind:mindblown:

and if u wana discuss "soft covergages" and defensive schemes in the secondary. i can speak on that and run laps around u. :ooh:

I don't get how you're trying to clown his lack of football knowledge and still think that going for an INT is the right thing to do. If your coach knew his fundamentals, it is always the correct play to bat the ball away on fourth down.
 

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again..... why are you this SLOW?

they both have their negatives and positives......... catching the ball has LESS negatives than swatting the ball...

jennings deserves NONE of the blame for this, he did the correct thing, it was just unfortunate it didn't work out in his favor.

if you are forced to take ONE option (out of 2), where both could result in a bad outcome,,, you take the one that is less likely to result in a bad outcome.... and that is



catching the balllll

no it' s not. It's so obvious that you've never played football. Stop.
 
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So numerous examples of people trying to knock the ball down and giving up a TD have been posted, and y'all haven't posted a single example of someone going for the pick and giving up the TD, yet y'all still holding on to this notion that Jennings is somehow to blame?
 

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enlighten me on how you came to this conclusion?

You're right. I shouldn't have assumed you never played. It's also possible that your football coach wasn't a very good one.

This is in line with falling on a fumbled ball as opposed to trying to pick it up and run. You can show me hundreds of examples of players scooping and scoring -- that doesn't make it the "right" football play.
 
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You're right. I shouldn't have assumed you never played. It's also possible that your football coach wasn't a very good one.

This is in line with falling on the ball as opposed to trying to pick it up and run. You can show me hundreds of examples of players scooping and scoring -- that doesn't make it the "right" football play.

:what:

That is nothing like a HM swat ball/pick situation at all. my argument all along has been to make the safest play (one that allows the most minimal outside factors) and the play that is the LESSER OF TWO EVILS..... how the hell is picking up the ball at the end of the game and running with it, when you're in the lead the safest play or the lesser of two evils?

..... that was a bad comparison.
 

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You're right. I shouldn't have assumed you never played. It's also possible that your football coach wasn't a very good one.

This is in line with falling on a fumbled ball as opposed to trying to pick it up and run. You can show me hundreds of examples of players scooping and scoring -- that doesn't make it the "right" football play.

:wtf:

Falling on a football is a higher percentage play as the size of your body can mitigate the strange bounce of a football instead of hoping for the correct bounce or a dead ball on the ground that is needed for a scoop-up.
Just like finishing a catch is a higher percentage instead of just batting the ball down since the ball is not perfectly round and there is a great chance that it won't bounce right down in front of your feet.
 

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:what:

That is nothing like a HM swat ball/pick situation at all. my argument all along has been to make the safest play (one that allows the most minimal outside factors) and the play that is the LESSER OF TWO EVILS..... how the hell is picking up the ball at the end of the game and running with it, when you're in the lead the safest play or the lesser of two evils?

..... that was a bad comparison.

how is going for a catch that can sometimes bounce off your hands or your chest any better than simply smacking the ball down? It's not. Sure, you have 2 two examples of when it didn't work, but the reason you are taught to swat the ball is because 99% of the time it works.
 
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how is going for a catch that can sometimes bounce off your hands or your chest any better than simply smacking the ball down? It's not. Sure, you have 2 two examples of when it didn't work, but the reason you are taught to swat the ball is because 99% of the time it works.
swatting the ball may work 99% of the time, but catching the ball works 99.5% of the time... why is that so hard for you to understand/ accept?
 
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how is going for a catch that can sometimes bounce off your hands or your chest any better than simply smacking the ball down? It's not. Sure, you have 2 two examples of when it didn't work, but the reason you are taught to swat the ball is because 99% of the time it works.

:wtf:

that's not what you were arguing in your previous post. that's only 'SOMETIMES' though, when you swat the ball its ALWAYS gona have the same negative % chance that the attempted catch only 'SOMETIMES' has, what you just wrote, is in favor of my argument...

you're putting the power into environmental factors, you ain't putting the power in your hands. but there's no use arguing that reasoning, because in premise of this thread jennings caught the ball.... there's four examples of the swatting the ball, resulting in tds, in the thread, and none of a simultaneous catch between a db and a receiver (this one aside), 99% of the time it works you say? do you have evidence to back this claim up, or is this just baseless opinionated-nonsense that you keep spewing?
 

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That's some rare, fluke s**t happening though. 9 times out of 10 in a hail mary situation you would rather bat the ball down. FOH dont try that bulls**t with me

So you're saying that what wound up happening WASN'T a fluke play? :mjpls:

99/100 times that play is ruled an Int and the game is over
 
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catching a ball is a lot harder than swatting it down. You gonna argue that?

Lol, you keep trying to angle the argument to make your position make sense.

Obviously if you can't make the catch you should swat it down. And you shouldn't be trying to make a hero pick.

however if the ball is coming right at you, you should make the pick and ensure that the ball doesn't make any unwanted ricochets.
 
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