GRAPEVINE EDITION: Can Black People Be Racist?

[Gold]

An oppressed minority harboring dislike for their oppressors is racism??

Lol ok.

I guess Native Americans who were kicked out of their land and disliked white people for it are racists?
I guess Japanese Americans who had an axe to grind with white people due to internment camps are racists?

As i've said a million times before, one has to understand history to understand racism.

If you think racism equates to "****** and cracker" you have no concept of racism

 

[BlackMajik]

The Hate that Hate produced ain't racism bytch

 

[ba'al]

How did those white people get to Africa in the first place?

By stealing land, right?

Actually no initially we had various dynasties Europeans came to do trade if you read Chancellors Williams book it talks about that but yes eventually they did colonialize africa. And that's why sovereign African nations now are amazing now being able to erect a nation post colonization. I don't know why ya'll are trying to say sovereign nations on Africa are powerless.

 

[xoxodede]

Does it matter? The South African girl said blacks can't be racist.

And both the Nigerian girls said the same shyt.

Just like to get different opinions.

 

[Gold]

The Hate that Hate produced ain't racism bytch

Exactly. Not sure why people have such an issue with this concept.

If you enslave a race for 400 years they are fully justified in hating you.


Don't like it? Well that's the consequence of America's biggest sin. That's how it is now because of it. Actions have consequences.

I've NEVER seen ANYONE give Jews any shyt for hating Germans. And that was a blip compared to slavery

So unless white people want to become slaves for 400 years to call it "even"... suck it up and deal with the fact that we dont have to like you.

 

[Concerning VIolence]

Actually no initially we had various dynasties Europeans came to do trade if you read Chancellors Williams book it talks about that but yes eventually they did colonialize africa. And that's why sovereign African nations now are amazing now being able to erect a nation post colonization. I don't know why ya'll are trying to say sovereign nations on Africa are powerless.

How did those white farmers that Mugabe killed get to Africa, breh?


Did Mugabe imported them as slaves from Europe?

 

[ba'al]

How did those white farmers that Mugabe killed get to Africa, breh?


Did Mugabe imported them as slaves from Europe?

So racism is only tied to slavery?

 

[King Sun]

its entertaining to see some of the posters that are sincere about the question and the trolls just egging them on

 

[BaltimoreTwilightMarauder]

I understand what they're gettin at and I agree to a point but the type of gymnastics done to the definition of the word "Racist" in this thread is startin to look a lot like what the LGBT been tryin to do to the word "Gender"

It's just people trying to justify their hypocrisy. That kind of revisionist bullshyt is common in the ultra-conservative(The people who say the civil war wasn't about slaves) and the ultra-left(Militants) Look up the Horseshoe Theory.

 

[DPresidential]

The answer is yes. Why you yall take an aspect of racism and make it the full definition?

Racism is the belief that your race is inherently superior and another particular race or all races that isn't yours is inferior. While you may not be able to oppress others, you don't need economic and legal supremacy to harbor that kind of belief.

This

 

[Gold]

The answer is yes. Why you yall take an aspect of racism and make it the full definition?

Racism is the belief that your race is inherently superior and another particular race or all races that isn't yours is inferior. While you may not be able to oppress others, you don't need economic and legal supremacy to harbor that kind of belief.

Well then we need 2 different definitions for racism.

Because when black people talk about racism, we are CLEARLY talking about those beliefs with the backing of the oppressive system that is white supremacy.
When white people talk about black people being racist, they are talking about "he called me a cracker and said I cant jump high"

Do you think we would care about racism if not for WS, the history of slavery, the denial of civil rights, etc?
If racism was just jokes that comedians told or slurs, we wouldn't give 2 shyts about it


Some of ya'll are confusing me. Its like you have no idea what black people mean when we say "racism"

 

[DPresidential]

Well then we need 2 different definitions for racism.

Because when black people talk about racism, we are CLEARLY talking about those beliefs with the backing of the oppressive system that is white supremacy.
When white people talk about black people being racist, they are talking about "he called me a cracker and said I cant jump high"

Do you think we would care about racism if not for WS, the history of slavery, the denial of civil rights, etc?
If racism was just jokes that comedians told or slurs, we wouldn't give 2 shyts about it


Some of ya'll are confusing me. Its like you have no idea what black people mean when we say "racism"

Brother...
The simple answer is at this juncture, only certain groups can systematically oppress.

Be that as it may, the term racism can apply to the actions/ideas of any race when it comes to the belief in the inferiority of one race under another.

No one is trying to WIN in this debate. We are trying to be objective.

That should be the end of this discussion.

Or nah?

 

[Concerning VIolence]

So racism is only tied to slavery?

Retribution is racism?

was the Haitian Revolution racism?

 

[DPresidential]

Sidenote: has anyone bothered to look up the history or the word racism?

Who created it? How did it make our way into the lexicon of society?

It seems that some people are trying to remain objective and figure out this answer simply from the Oxford definition.

And others are using a strict and narrow personal definition.

The latter is disingenuous.

 

[ba'al]

Retribution is racism?

was the Haitian Revolution racism?

Lmao. This is a very semantical argument but no to both those question. Can you answer my earlier ones though? But this is pretty much my main point soverign african nations aren't powerless or not just continental African but any sovereign black nation isn't powerless and doesn't fit that definition no matter how you try to splice and say that they aren't capable of doing things white people were able to do historically.