Got Loyalty Got Royalty Inside Our DNA. Official Miami Heat 2017-18 Season Thread #DoItForTheCulture

[Green Ranger]

Shooting is the last of Winslow's concerns tbh. Hope he fins himself in a good situation where he can develop because this heat roster+ coach isn't doing him any favors.

It’s all coaching honest Spo just isn’t maximizing or using guys to there max potential
Winslow, Richardson & Whiteside have all fell victim to this the most.
Everyone saying wow Bam remember we use to say wow Whiteside
Spo will have Bam just like Whiteside and watch we will be saying the same things we are saying about Whiteside & Winslow how there not being use to there max potential.

Spo isn’t a bad coach but he is an old school coach under Pat he is defend/counterpunch first but in today NBA it’s about scoring offense and that always been his weak point.

 

[Green Ranger]

Riley low key be fukkin up the roster since 2013

From the TJ poison pill type contract
To the Granger & McBob signing
To pretty much bidding against themselves with the contracts they gave Waiters & JJ
The unnecessary signing of Olynyk when you already drafted Bam & Winslow was coming back from injury knowing Spo love small ball.
Pat has seen better days

 

[Draje]

Whiteside ain't really the problem and Bam ain't ready yet, IMO. If we're trading him, we need to get major picks.

 

[Draje]

Did the Nets just secure a brighter future than us?

Almost all their notable players are under 24, they just got Okafor, Lin and Russel are gonna be back, etc.

Riley make something happen

 

[Captain Crunch]

Whiteside ain't really the problem and Bam ain't ready yet, IMO. If we're trading him, we need to get major picks.

Dream offseason
We trade Whiteside to Phoenix for our 2018 pick; 2021 Heat pick, and Brandon Knight

Dragic to Denver for Farried; Mudiay, and a 2019 lotto protected pick

 

[Sauce Dab]

Dream offseason
We trade Whiteside to Phoenix for our 2018 pick; 2021 Heat pick, and Brandon Knight

Dragic to Denver for Farried; Mudiay, and a 2019 lotto protected pick

 

[Captain Crunch]

I can give a fukk about them, it's all about getting those picks dog.

Having a pick this year, even if it's in the 10-16 range is great, especially since we'd be at the start of a rebuild.

Don't get me started on getting out 2021 pick back and having two picks next season.

That's why I'm hoping like hell, we either get swept 1st round/miss the playoffs and lose our pick. This way Riley will likely retire since the team can't do shyt, and the next GM will realize that the Heat have to rebuild. It's been 3 and a half years in the making, hopefully we get that rebuild we desperately need this summer.

 

[Green Ranger]

Whiteside ain't really the problem and Bam ain't ready yet, IMO. If we're trading him, we need to get major picks.

That little stat at the bottom is just
Paid him big money but don’t play him big minutes
He is only averaging 27 minutes on the season
Most teams have quality/young big man so trading him and getting value back would be limited
Off the top of my head Dallas, ATL, are the only teams I can think of that would need a center.
Honest with how we been able to find guards lately I would deal Dragic who is also older then trading an in his prime Whiteside.

 

[intruder]

Not their games, the fact that MKG is held back by his inability to shoot, without a jumper it doesn't matter how well he passes because he will never be the primary ball handler.


And, Winslow has played 73% of his minutes at PF

Playing out of position isnt always a disadvantage, tho.

In the position-less basketball approach your position only matters on defense where, when facing a traditional lineup, it determines who you have to guard. If Winslow's getting into foul trouble or exerting too much energy while trying defend PFs that are bigger and stronger than he is, then yes, it's an issue.
But notice the only things i mentioned so far are on defense. On offense you position doesnt really matter anymore because your skill set determines your role in the offense. Remember how we used Lamar Odom, Jamal Mashburn, D-Wade and even Lebron. So if that same PF he was guarding tries to guard Winslow on offense, Winslow should be able make his life miserable taking him to the basket all day and aint no way traditional PFs can keep up with Winslow.

Problem is...can he finish when he gets to the basket. Which tends to be a problem for him at times.

 

[He Who Posts Well]

An interesting note is Haslem's hatred of French cuisine may been part of reason Udonis got into the playing condition necessary to compete in the NBA. Wikipedia writes,

"After leaving Florida in 2002, his weight ballooned in excess of 300 pounds. Haslem then signed with Chalon-Sur-Saône, a professional team in France. While averaging 16.1 points and 9.4 rebounds per game, Haslem also managed to lose 70 pounds over the course of that year, which resulted in him earning a spot in the NBA summer league."

In 2012 Tom Haberstroh wrote,

"When he arrived on French soil, he was pushing 300 pounds. But while there, he stopped working out, ate only one meal a day and only McDonald’s because he abhorred the local food."

"Thorpe recalls the first time he saw Haslem after he briefly returned from France to attend a Gators football game. Haslem had lost 50 pounds in eight months."

Erik Spoelstra couldn't believe his eyes when the trimmed down version of Haslem showed up after his self-imposed McDonalds diet.

“I’ll never forget the first day he walked into our gym, he just got back from France,” Spoelstra said. “None of us recognized him, didn’t know who he was. All of us had the same reaction: Where’s Udonis Haslem? That’s him. What? It looked like he lost a person.”

The lost weight and a relentless work ethic helped Udonis fix his biggest problem in his college career: rebounding. As his high school coach Frank Martin recalls,

“That was one of my biggest challenges with him; he couldn’t rebound,” Martin said. “He had maybe six rebounds a game. They told him that the biggest reason why he wasn’t drafted was because he couldn’t rebound.”

In another article Martin recalls what it took to motivate Haslem into becoming an elite rebounder.

"Martin did not appreciate apathy. To him, natural skills mixed with developed ones were the lottery combination. Haslem possessed the former, but not the latter."

“He was content to stand there and if the ball came to him, he would get it,” Martin said. “If it didn’t, it didn’t.”

"If Haslem did not work to create more space, Martin instructed the guards not to pass the ball inside to Haslem. If Haslem did not rebound, he instructed the guards not to give him the ball. If the guard passed Haslem the ball and Martin did not think Haslem deserved it, the passer was punished with wind sprints."

“But it made me work,” he [Haslem] added. “It really made me work. He was the first guy to push me that hard, because everything just came so naturally, so early.”

How the Heat outbid the Spurs to snatch Udonis Haslem away from the San Antonio Spurs
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Dope article about how Haslem almost ended up on the Spurs. Also how Haslem went to France and lost a lot of weight by only eating one meal a deal at McDonalds.

Haslem was a relentless rebounder and his midrange jumper was money until that foot injury.

 

[He Who Posts Well]

The Stats say James Johnson should be starting

According to Basketball reference, the line up of Whiteside, Johnson, Richardson, Waiters and Dragic has the best point differentials out of all the combinations so far. They have a +31.9 point differential however, this line up has only played 33 minutes together so far. If this isn't our starting lineup to begin games, it should be the line up we use to close games. The worst lineup is Bam, Dragic, Waiters, Justice, and Richardson. Their point differential is -41.4.

 

[Captain Crunch]

 

[Primetime21]

edit: do ya'll, imma fall back from here in a min

 

[He Who Posts Well]

Isn't that obvious? To me that's not really much of a statement. Unless there is a star available, Riley is not making a move to gamble on free agency again.

 

[Captain Crunch]

edit: do ya'll, imma fall back from here in a min

Our philosophies differ, but even I can admit your an elder statesman and these Heat Coli streets need you.