Got Loyalty Got Royalty Inside Our DNA. Official Miami Heat 2017-18 Season Thread #DoItForTheCulture

[LeoTheGreat]

Blow it up, brehs

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Well I think we can say this one is over. Yeah I know HW is out, but this team is just not very good. They need to be sellers by the deadline. This team’s 30-11 run last year was the anomaly and Riley needs to pick up on that before it’s too late to make long term moves for this team.

 

[Captain Crunch]

Well I think we can say this one is over. Yeah I know HW is out, but this team is just not very good. They need to be sellers by the deadline. This team’s 30-11 run last year was the anomaly and Riley needs to pick up on that before it’s too late to make long term moves for this team.

Aside from Whiteside and Dragic(whom only a handful "competitive" teams would be interested in), most of our players are unattractive to other teams.

Plus even if we do move our enticing players it won't be for much in value, it'll likely be for mid-late 1sts. So doing such moves would be for rebuild purposes, and this organization is allergic to the R word. We won't see real change until Riley is gone, hopefully this medriority continues and drives him to retire this summer.

 

[madness]

I have a feeling that whitesides days in a heat jersey are numbered

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Aside from Whiteside and Dragic(whom only a handful "competitive" teams would be interested in), most of our players are unattractive to other teams.

Plus even if we do move our enticing players it won't be for much in value, it'll likely be for mid-late 1sts. So doing such moves would be for rebuild purposes, and this organization is allergic to the R word. We won't see real change until Riley is gone, hopefully this medriority continues and drives him to retire this summer.

fukking Beasley had to be such a bust that now Riley would rather be a treadmill team than try to set up a long term plan

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

I have a feeling that whitesides days in a heat jersey are numbered

Spo has never wanted to feature him prominently and always jumps at the chance to send him to the bench. The team is on the treadmill and lacks long term building blocks. The team has had 1 season under Spo without LeBron where the offense finished the season top 15 in offensive rating. They’ve had one season minus James under Spo where they finished better than 20th in points per game. Spo doesn’t know what to do with him or many of our other players. May as well blow the whole thing up. Fresh blood is needed on the roster, probably on the sideline, and maybe even the front office too

 

[Captain Crunch]

fukking Beasley had to be such a bust that now Riley would rather be a treadmill team than try to set up a long term plan

It ain't on Beasley breh, all of Riles success as a GM has largely due to a win now approach. Even if Beas became that 20/10 guy, Riles would still be gunning for home run instead of taking walks.

 

[BushidoBrown]

*checks score* glad im not watching this weak fukk shyt

 

[Freddie.Cane]

Pass the sticks

 

[He Who Posts Well]

We are a second half season team brehs. Let be patient

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Brown and Tatum would be averaging like 7 ppg on the Heat.

Donovan Mitchell would be riding the bench like Bam

Marcus Smart can't shoot for shyt. Yet Stevens trusts him with the basketball. He'll even let Kyrie play off the ball some just for the benefit of Smart.

I could see Winslow driving/dishing and making plays for the Celtics right now if he played for them.

I could see Bam getting 20+ mins under Stevens with the best record in the east.

Then again the system has always been to make the young guys earn it. Even Hassan was somewhat held back that first year

Spo is notoriously stubborn with his lineups, sets, and rotation decisions, and he’s been that way his entire career. He tried to run out 2012-14 offense in 2014-15 even without LeBron. It took him until the final month of the 2014-15 season to even give whiteside 30 minutes a game when the team would play dramatically better when he was in. He benched him every chance he had in 2015-16, and apparently he’s been 2014-15 status this year sticking with lineups that don’t work and refusing to see how some young players fit together.

Well said.

 

[intruder]

The problem is the offense. Too predictable. Our offense is basically this:

1. Everyone camped out at the 3pt line
   
2. Dion or Dragiç drive and kick to the players waiting at the 3pt line.
3. Once they get the pass is either they launch a 3 or swing it around to the next closest player also camped out at the 3pt line.

In the meantime none of them cutting to the basket. None of them trying to post up. Everyone just stand around waiting for a pass. This why I don't blame J-RICH. That's not his game. We've seen what he can do and spending most of a game waiting to launch 3s is not what does well. Cats are so focused on him getting more pt than Winslow and wanna point out his horrible slump but forget how well he played his first 2 years and he didn't do it standing around launching 3s and long 2s all the time

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

The problem is the offense. Too predictable. Our offense is basically this:

1. Everyone camped out at the 3pt line
   
2. Dion or Dragiç drive and kick to the players waiting at the 3pt line.
3. Once they get the pass is either they launch a 3 or swing it around to the next closest player also camped out at the 3pt line.

In the meantime none of the cutting to the basket. None of them trying to post up. Everyone just stand around waiting for a pass. This why I don't blame J-RICH. That's not his game. We've seen what he can do and spending most of a game waiting to launch 3s is not what does well

It’s always this way under Spo. By the end of the 2016 playoffs we didn’t even have any plays to run for Wade except a 2-5 pick and roll at the top of the arc, isolation at the top of the arc, and the occasional post up on the left block. Like I mentioned earlier, Spo has one season without LeBron where he heat finished with a top 15 offensive rating, which was also his only non LeBron season with the team finishing better than 20th in points per game. He is what he is as a coach at this point. Offense isn’t his strong suit.

 

[Primetime21]

Spo should be grateful every day he doesn't coach for one of these other organizations

 

[Captain Crunch]

Spo should be grateful every day he doesn't coach for one of these other organizations

We back on the "Spo can't coach" after singing praises 7-9 months ago

Dude isn't elite but he isn't the problem. Sure he has his issues(hesitant to playing young guys, questionable offense), but the main reason for our mediocrity is the talent level. In addition to our lack of true talent, we're not hitting 3's(which was a big part of that 30-11 run), so it's hard to be good when you lack talent and can't shoot.