Goku NEVER beat Vegeta so why yall clowning the Prince

[Master Teacher]

Then what happened, Goku socked the nikka with two boulders lmao

You acting Vegeta didn't have to sell his soul to the Baphomet just to go Super Saiyin 2, and Goku still didn't go super saiyin 3 just because he wanted to fight him equally and Vegeta was butt hurt

He got face tats like rappers signing to young money after giving they booty to burd man, that's Majin power no vegeta

that's why only hoes nikkaz relate to Vegeta, because you probably the jealous and envious one who secretly hate you home boy who the gift of gab lmao

 

[Sterling Archer]

Vegeta could have finished Cell easily before his nincompoop ass let him absorb the Androids

We ain't forget!

We also ain't forget Cell Jr's putting the beats on everyone, Vegeta included

Prince of Saiyans been outclassed since Android 18 put that work on him

Krillin let Cell become complete. They planned for Krillin to destroy 18 and he destroyed the controller that Bulma made to shut them down. Vegeta did what every saiyan (including Goku) would and has done. Even Cell with saiyan DNA does the same thing allowing Vegeta to hit him with Final Flash, Trunks to go USSJ and Gohan to go SSJ2.
Vegeta and Trunks vs Cell Jrs isnt canon. They are canon, just not the fights that the anime showed. Vegeta and Trunks were doing fine against the Jrs.

 

[Master Teacher]

The worst beating in all of DBZ was administered by Vegeta onto Imperfect Cell. Yes, Perfect Cell washed Vegeta. But even he didnt beat Vegeta as bad as Vegeta beat him. He literally made Cell beg. And lets not forget that Goku had his chance to fight Imperfect Cell and chose to run. Wanted absolutely no parts of Cell until the tournament. No one is saying Vegeta hasnt gotten his ass beat before. Thats ridiculous, we know he did. But that isnt what the thread is about at all. Its about did Goku beat his ass. Posting clips of when Vegeta got worked doesnt win this argument because itll never be Goku the one who's doing it.
And Vegeta vs Buu was one the most iconic fights in all of DBZ.
Goku couldnt beat Kid Buu on his own so he wouldnt have beat Majin Buu either. Thats what makes Vegeta's Atonement a goat moment for the story and the character.

Freeza easily beat Vegeta up worst than anyone has gotten beat in DBZ history lmao, he held him up his tail and used as a punching bag lmao, the disrespect, he beat the shyt outta all them nikkaz as far as brutality goes

He made Vegeta cry, and Vegeta gave up and lost his will fight when he couldn't fukk with Final Form Freeza

that's why Vegeta is never on Goku level, he a front runner when he got the upper hand he get cocky when he getting his ass beat he loses confidence, when Goku keeps trying to win to the bitter end no matter if he out matched

 

[Tha Gawd Amen]

3 episodes? You know how many episodes there are between Vegeta going SSJ to the day Goku came out the Hyperbolic Time Chamber? 129-168. The moment Vegeta was SSJ he was stronger that entire time all throughout the Android Sage, Cell Saga all the way until the Cell Games saga when Goku came out. Thats like 50 episodes. Goku wasnt stronger than Vegeta in Super until he went SSB Kaioken and that was like 40-45 episodes. Stop with the "3 episodes" please. He had 3 sagas in DBZ alone as being stronger. You dont have to shyt on one character to big up another. Goku will always ultimately be the strongest no matter who is stronger for however long. He's the protagonist. Thats how it always is in every anime/manga.

Literally what im saying and you're arguing the semantics of an obvious hyperbole .

I've never even said who is stronger of the two, I just said Vegeta is always going to player #2. It's the pattern of Dragonball to for Goku to get an ass pull to victory while everyone else is usually on the sidelines giving internal monologues on how great goku is.

 

[Master Teacher]

Krillin let Cell become complete. They planned for Krillin to destroy 18 and he destroyed the controller that Bulma made to shut them down. Vegeta did what every saiyan (including Goku) would and has done. Even Cell with saiyan DNA does the same thing allowing Vegeta to hit him with Final Flash, Trunks to go USSJ and Gohan to go SSJ2.
Vegeta and Trunks vs Cell Jrs isnt canon. They are canon, just not the fights that the anime showed. Vegeta and Trunks were doing fine against the Jrs.

Cell didn't let Gohan go SSJ2 lmao, and he destroyed all sensu beans when Goku was about to jump back into help Gohan

 

[Sterling Archer]

Then what happened, Goku socked the nikka with two boulders lmao

You acting Vegeta didn't have to sell his soul to the Baphomet just to go Super Saiyin 2, and Goku still didn't go super saiyin 3 just because he wanted to fight him equally and Vegeta was butt hurt

He got face tats like rappers signing to young money after giving they booty to burd man, that's Majin power no vegeta

that's why only hoes nikkaz relate to Vegeta, because you probably the jealous and envious one who secretly hate you home boy who the gift of gab lmao

False. Vegeta could already go SSJ2. And yeah, he got rocked after that with the boulders but that was get back from the previous sonning he had just received that left him hanging off a cliff by his fingertips. They were both going back and forth. People dont have to try and shyt on either for that fight because it was a draw.

 

[Master Teacher]

You trippin. Base Vegeta>>>Base Goku first fight. Zenkai Vegeta>>>>Base Goku on Namek after the Ginyu fight but before Zenkai Goku vs Frieza. Then once Vegeta went SSJ he was >>>SSJ Goku for the entire Android saga all the way to the Cell tournament. He was weaker again after Goku came out the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. By Super, Vegeta was > than Goku despite SSJ3. Had more feats in his Beerus fight than Goku. All during Super Vegeta was => Goku until SSB Kaioken. Then Vegeta's SSB Evo made it even again until Ultra Instinct.

Goku beat Vegeta he had to turn into the ape

Goku never showed how strong he was when he first came on namek he hid his power, easily beat the ginyu force without even breaking a sweat, Ginyu took his body and didn't know how to use it, he was way stronger than Vegeta the entire time on Namek, one zenkai boast and he could stand his ground with final form freiza

There is reason why Vegeta is obsessed with Goku and not the other way around, he's better which Vegeta already admitted

Vegeta was not stronger than Goku during the android saga, Goku was effected by Virus you can see him sweating when they are first flying to the andorids before he even turns super saiyin

Goku came out the Hyperbolic Time Chamber early than Vegeta did and was WAY STRONGER THAN HIM, that right there lets you know there was a huge gap between their strength the entire time

Vegeta had to sell his soul to be able to get strong enough to turn super saiyin 2, he never went super saiyin 2 with Majin power boost, just like he can't do super saiyin 3

Vegeta ain't start getting strong until Super when he figured out he had to stop trying to compete with Goku and train for himself, that's how he was able to get the god ki

 

[Sterling Archer]

Cell didn't let Gohan go SSJ2 lmao, and he destroyed all sensu beans when Goku was about to jump back into help Gohan

Cell was pushing Gohan to go SSJ2. That was his entire purpose for him fighting Gohan and him pushing Gohan to crack so he can have a challenge. WTF are you talking about?

 

[Master Teacher]

False. Vegeta could already go SSJ2. And yeah, he got rocked after that with the boulders but that was get back from the previous sonning he had just received that left him hanging off a cliff by his fingertips. They were both going back and forth. People dont have to try and shyt on either for that fight because it was a draw.

No he couldn't, which is why he let the Majin take hold of him you idiot, so he could get a power boost, that wasn't his strength, he can't go super saiyin 2 or 3, never could

 

[Master Teacher]

Cell was pushing Gohan to go SSJ2. That was his entire purpose for him fighting Gohan and him pushing Gohan to crack so he can have a challenge. WTF are you talking about?

He was trying to get him mad so he could fight at his full power, he had no idea about Super Saiyin 2 lmao

also after he exploded he learned instant transmission and Super Saiyin 2, when he was killed by the father son kamehama, he had the super sayin 2, so he had gotten even stronger and still got killed

 

[Malik1time]

We talking strictly 1v1 not who got more kills etc cuz clearly Goku has beat more major enemies but we talking just 1v1
And you hero Goku never beat Vegeta
Eat shyt

 

[Malik1time]

So how he the GOAT if he can't surpass Goku

Goku never beat him
Vegeta won that fight but Goku needed his butt buddies to help him
Did Vegeta need help nope
Matter of fact he marked nappa for being a bytch

 

[Sterling Archer]

No he couldn't, which is why he let the Majin take hold of him you idiot, so he could get a power boost, that wasn't his strength, he can't go super saiyin 2 or 3, never could

You a dumbass. He went Majin because he saw that Goku had more energy than SSJ2 should have against Babidi's monster. And thats because SSJ3 also boosts all lower levels just like SSJ2 does to SSj and SSJ does to Base. Stupid ass nikka. If you really think Vegeta was weaker than SSJ2 Gohan and Dabura then youre a fukking moron.

Goku beat Vegeta he had to turn into the ape

Goku never showed how strong he was when he first came on namek he hid his power, easily beat the ginyu force without even breaking a sweat, Ginyu took his body and didn't know how to use it, he was way stronger than Vegeta the entire time on Namek, one zenkai boast and he could stand his ground with final form freiza

There is reason why Vegeta is obsessed with Goku and not the other way around, he's better which Vegeta already admitted

Vegeta was not stronger than Goku during the android saga, Goku was effected by Virus you can see him sweating when they are first flying to the andorids before he even turns super saiyin

Goku came out the Hyperbolic Time Chamber early than Vegeta did and was WAY STRONGER THAN HIM, that right there lets you know there was a huge gap between their strength the entire time

Vegeta had to sell his soul to be able to get strong enough to turn super saiyin 2, he never went super saiyin 2 with Majin power boost, just like he can't do super saiyin 3

Vegeta ain't start getting strong until Super when he figured out he had to stop trying to compete with Goku and train for himself, that's how he was able to get the god ki

Goku overpowered Vegeta with his x4 kaioken KMHMH, he didnt beat him. Vegeta got blasted and rolled off the beam then came back down. If he was beat, he wouldve been incapacitated.

I know exactly what Goku did and didnt do on Namek. Nothing you said contrasts my statement. He was only way stronger before Vegeta went into the tank. When Vegeta came out, he was stronger than Goku's Max at that point. Goku used his Max vs Ginyu (capt). They made a whole deal about it because Goku wanted to know how strong he had gotten. I said Goku was stronger at that point. Both Vegeta and Goku got in the healing tank. Vegeta came out and at that time was stronger than Goku was against Captain Ginyu. Thats when he challenged Frieza with Krillin and Gohan while Goku went into the tank. Once Goku came out the tank, he was back to being stronger. I said nothing to refute that though so why did you even say that?

Who said Vegeta is better than Goku? Is that what the thread was about? No. Is that something I said? No. Who expects anyone to be better than the protagonist in their own story? The discussion is about their 2 fights and I personally am addressing erroneous statements regardless of who someone stans.

Again, where does this matter regarding Goku having some hours left to train and coming out earlier than Vegeta? This is a pointless statement. Especially since I clearly stated that Goku was stronger than Vegeta the moment he stepped out of the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. What does that statement address?

The fact that you think he couldnt go SSJ2 until he went Majin means we are done talking my nikka. Again, absolutely nothing suggests or states it and we are going on 30yrs of everyone understanding that Vegeta could already go SSJ2. You might be the only nikka on the internet that thinks otherwise and since you do. We dont need to converse anymore. Imma wash my hands of it

 

[Sterling Archer]

He was trying to get him mad so he could fight at his full power, he had no idea about Super Saiyin 2 lmao

also after he exploded he learned instant transmission and Super Saiyin 2, when he was killed by the father son kamehama, he had the super sayin 2, so he had gotten even stronger and still got killed

They didnt even call it SSJ2 until SSJ3 was a thing. Who cares if he knew the fukking name. Goku convinced him that Gohan had a level of power beyond his own, and Cell made a point to push Gohan to release it. And did you just say that Cell went SSJ2!? Super Perfect Cell isnt SSJ2

We done breh. You aint qualified.

 

[Sterling Archer]

The bolded is heavy revisionist shyt breh and you know it

In the Android Saga, Goku had Heart Disease and fam please behave yourself there is NO WAY Vegeta was stronger than Goku at any point after the Buu Saga come on breh

Uhh Piccolo stated Vegeta as SS was stronger than SS Goku when he saw it. Piccolo was training with Goku those 3yrs. He knows how strong that man was. Im not saying Vegeta was stronger just because he beat 19 and Goku lost. Goku wouldve beat 19 just as easily as Vegeta did if he was healthy. Im saying it because Piccolo stated it and its obvious. And no, Vegeta wasnt stronger at any point in the Buu saga. Where did you see me say that? You quoted my exact statement saying Goku was stronger the second he came out the Time Chamber in the Cell saga. He was never stronger than Goku at any point in Z after the Cell saga.