God's 12 Biggest d1ck Moves in the Old Testament

[the cac mamba]

. Or the Egyptians that worshiped the sun.e.

i think one thing we can agree on is that the sun is much more praiseworthy than 'god'

 

[Everythingg]

Yes, absolutely.

Rational thought is about believing something is true only when you see evidence. I don't have it in me to be irrational. How is this a choice?

Its a choice because you're choosing not to search.

And nope. Again rational definition:

based on or in accordance with reason or logic.

So why is without reason and logic to believe that the universe was created?

Flying spaghetti monster is the hypothetical creator.

Thats not what I asked. I didnt ask what it is. So I'll ask, is there an equal chance of this "monster" existing as the universe being created by God?

 

[Everythingg]

Yes, this is a rational reaction. Well done. When the irrefutable evidence is brought then the person asking for proof changes his mind. As long as guy's just saying "Hey there are other lands up in the heavens" everyone else in Biblical times are perfectly reasonable to dismiss his claim.

Perfectly reasonable to reject a true claim without proof huh?

 

[Everythingg]

i think one thing we can agree on is that the sun is much more praiseworthy than 'god'

Maybe you and other pagans can agree on that. I'll worship the One that brought the sun and all other things into existence

 

[Everythingg]

We don't know, but there are many hypotheses. First of all, it might not make sense to ask what started this event ... if time is a function of space ... I digress. Personally I think the universe always existed but in another form..... a universe that always expands and contract in a cylindrical fashion... but again, no one knows.

So why is it more logical to believe that the universe always existed, or somehow always expands yet still remains orderly over a Creator creating it?

lol fine. But that doesn't scare me into believing. Dont' be surprised when Krishna doesn't accept you. Don't be surprised when Allah doesn't save you. My point is anyone can SAY anything is true... how do you demonstrate your belief actually is true.

I'll be fine with idols/demons rejecting me just fine.

As for allah, allegedly, Mohammed said this was the God of Abraham. So I should be on the straight and narrow if this is the same Being that Abraham worshiped.

Right, now we get into the No True Scotman fallacy. Dude, your entire positon is based upon logically fallacies and wishful thinking. Whatever. Good luck with that.

I guess this exemplifies what I said then. Very well lol

Right..... do you not realize people who are Christian disagree with your interpretations of the bible?

Who cares?

What specifically in the book of Daniel?

Study to show yourself approved. I aint throwing nothing out here for these folk

 

[Everythingg]

Yup. People who thought the Earth was spherical were insane until there was a good reason to demonstrate that was actually true.

They werent wrong because there was no proof now were they?

But, the thing about @King-Over-Kingz position is that he's not in the shoes of the "round-Earth" folk. He's in the camp that argues the Earth is flat. Thoughtout history, time and time again, people thought natural events in the world had some type of supernatural cause. Lightning bolts are because Zeus is mad and is throwing lightning at the Earth. The great Juju is upset, so the nearby volcano is erupting. Supernatural explanations has been the default for our ancestors. They knew some things, but they didn't know as much as we do now. That's exactly how building upon knowledge of the past works.... and in addition, people a thousand years from now will look at us as idiots as well. Of COURSE species change over time ... they'll probably wonder why there was ever a debate about evolution at all. Anyway, going back to my point .... For everything the human species thought had some supernatural explanation, exactly ZERO have been actually shown to be caused by some deity or being beyond our realm. I'd wager that the origins of our universe is no different.

They got what they wanted. A world without God Almighty. And now, when you or your kids deal with the fukkery of this generation and the ones before it, I wonder how you'll be feeling?

YOU'LL NEVER disprove God All science can do is look at "reality" and observe. But they can never find out what happened in the beginning. There will just be this blank peace of information missing there. That is the cause of all existence right there. But science will never figure it out.

 

[Uncle Trill]

Posted in another thread but kinda applies to this one too.


People are only saying God is good because their scared... Scared of going to hell but chances are you'll still end up there because well your lifestyle's arnt anything like God wants them to be no matter how many times you shout God is good and type it on message boards. Let's see if you still shouting God is good when your bytchass is burning in hell. If anything we should be hoping he doesn't exist because if he does way more people are going to suffer than live in eternal bliss. At the root of it all we are slaves to a supreme being who says worship me or die.. does that sound like someone you wanna love? Not really but keep on pretending because your scared.

 

[the cac mamba]

I'll worship the One that brought the sun and all other things into existence

blindly, i might add

never mind the fact that to the mayans, you wourself would be a pagan.

 

[noon]

Perfectly reasonable to reject a true claim without proof huh?

Until there's proof it's just a claim. If you just present a claim it's perfectly reasonable to dismiss it yes.

 

[Savior]

Posted in another thread but kinda applies to this one too.

People are only saying God is good because their scared... Scared of going to hell but chances are you'll still end up there because well your lifestyle's arnt anything like God wants them to be no matter how many times you shout God is good and type it on message boards. Let's see if you still shouting God is good when your bytchass is burning in hell. If anything we should be hoping he doesn't exist because if he does way more people are going to suffer than live in eternal bliss. At the root of it all we are slaves to a supreme being who says worship me or die.. does that sound like someone you wanna love? Not really but keep on pretending because your scared.

Technically if God is good you should still be able to get in heaven just based on how you live you live your life whether your religious or not. Am i wrong resident christians? Otherwise what happened to all the people who take part in diff religions or people who lived more than 2000 years ago that didnt even have the concept of the christian god. Are all natives, hindus, buddhists, norse, etc burning in hell? .

 

[NoMayo15]

So why is it more logical to believe that the universe always existed, or somehow always expands yet still remains orderly over a Creator creating it?

Because the science supports a naturalistic universe. We don't know if a supernatural realm exists for a god to be in. The time when it's reasonable to think that idea is true is when there is evidence not built on logical fallacies.

I'll be fine with idols/demons rejecting me just fine. As for allah, allegedly, Mohammed said this was the God of Abraham. So I should be on the straight and narrow if this is the same Being that Abraham worshiped.

Fact is your idol is no more justified than the hindu's/muslim/etc. Again, believe whatever you want... doesn't make it true just because you say it is

Who cares?

Well, I do. You think you're right, and they think they're right. I want to believe in as many true things as possible. If you're picking and choosing which parts of the bible you think is true, and it happens to be wrong, you might just caused both your soul AND mine if you convince me you're right. What if people at say Westboro Baptists are right, and god wants a strict, literal interpretation of the bible. How do I determine which of you are right? You don't think that is an important question?

Study to show yourself approved. I aint throwing nothing out here for these folk

 

[NoMayo15]

They werent wrong because there was no proof now were they?

In that particular example, anyone who thought the Earth was round might have stumbled upon the right answer, but used bad means to do so. They had no way to justify their claims, and no one would be "right" in accepting their position as fact. I'm not sure there were many people who actually believed in a spherical Earth before the evidence was there, since flat Earth appears more intuitive.

The point is when we're talking about what is most likely true about the universe, it's best to look at the evidence. Most atheists readily admit that there could be a god that exists beyond our knowledge ... it's just not a rational position to take because of the lack of evidence.

But again, many people in the past attributed natural occurrences to supernatural beings... they've all been wrong so far.

They got what they wanted. A world without God Almighty. And now, when you or your kids deal with the fukkery of this generation and the ones before it, I wonder how you'll be feeling?

Don't even know what you're talking about here.

YOU'LL NEVER disprove God All science can do is look at "reality" and observe.

Right. God doesn't exist in reality Only in your imagination

But they can never find out what happened in the beginning. There will just be this blank peace of information missing there. That is the cause of all existence right there. But science will never figure it out.

Again, more leaps of faith. Whether or not you acknowledge it, you have no idea what science can/cannot discover.

 

[AFRAM GLORY]

I'm off this thread



God's friendly, fire loving Iranian cousin. God is a total goon compared to this guy. His prophet look more moist than fresh pound cake compared to real killers like Moses, Zoroaster was the drake of ancient zealots.

Apollo or apollyon (sun god) who you call satan comes in many forms, names, and images. However discreet his manner is, he openly likes to wear long hair (forbidden), play with his fingers like gang members, and wear halos or sun images around his head. Peep the religious images of most, if not all religions. Now wipe the sleep out of your eyes and wake up.

Oh yeah, he always professes to come in peace, but reveals his true intentions through cryptography. Peep the sun behind its head, the left hand covertly throwing up triple six etc

 

[Everythingg]

blindly, i might add

never mind the fact that to the mayans, you wourself would be a pagan.

Except the mayans worshiped creation

 

[Everythingg]

Because the science supports a naturalistic universe. We don't know if a supernatural realm exists for a god to be in. The time when it's reasonable to think that idea is true is when there is evidence not built on logical fallacies.

Naturalistic definition: derived from real life or nature, or imitating it very closely

You didnt answer my question at all. I asked why is it MORE LOGICAL to believe that the universe ALWAYS existed over an Intelligent Creator putting it in place?

Fact is your idol is no more justified than the hindu's/muslim/etc. Again, believe whatever you want... doesn't make it true just because you say it is

I never said because I say something means its true. But the hindus worship idols/demons. I do not

Well, I do. You think you're right, and they think they're right. I want to believe in as many true things as possible. If you're picking and choosing which parts of the bible you think is true, and it happens to be wrong, you might just caused both your soul AND mine if you convince me you're right. What if people at say Westboro Baptists are right, and god wants a strict, literal interpretation of the bible. How do I determine which of you are right? You don't think that is an important question?

How do you determine which is right? I dont know... By reading the bible maybe??