You can't choose to believe me no. Because you wouldn't believe me. You'd know I had nothing in my hands. You can't make yourself believe otherwise. Even if you wanted to.
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You can't choose to believe me no. Because you wouldn't believe me. You'd know I had nothing in my hands. You can't make yourself believe otherwise. Even if you wanted to.
Move along troll
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King-Over-Kingz
Thats not what I asked. Did you even read what you quoted or are you just tryna rush me to answer your question? Heres what was said:
Noon: I tell you Im holding something behind my back.
I said that this is where we would leave it. So you're hands are behind your back and you told me you're holding something behind your back.
Can I choose to believe you or choose not to believe you?
Yeah how you gonna choose to believe if you know there's nothing there?
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
You're still not reading lol. You came up to me and said "Im holding something behind my back" and your hands are behind your back. Therefore I do not know if there is or isnt. I stopped your analogy here because you (dishonestly) formulated your question to prove your point.
So how can I not choose to believe you or choose not to believe you in your opinion?
There was nothing dishonest about it. You're just overcomplicating things. The point is you do know that there's nothing behind my back because you watched me put two empty hands behind my back. I then lie and tell you I'm holding something. You can't choose to believe that statement. It ain't hard. It's not a trick. Can you choose to believe in flying eggs? Five moons orbiting the Earth? An invisible teapot in space? An object behind my back? No. These aren't choices.
Now tell me why your god would murder little kids?
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
You formulated your question to come to a conclusion. That is dishonest. Now my scenario is more honest. Which is why you're avoiding it. Of course I can not choose to NOT believe CERTAIN things such as I am me. Or I am of african descent. But there are things that involve choice so I'll ask again
You come to me with your hands behind your back and say "I am holding something behind my back".
Again, why cant I choose to believe you or choose not to believe you?
I fixed that for you. And the answer is because of their parents.
And you think this is ok because?
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King-Over-Kingz
First my brethren, this needs to be addressed.
I hope you're not scared of the answer are you?
Nah, we'll drop it because you're not getting it. Apparently a simple situation is too difficult for you to render.
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
I understood the situation just fine. Just because I called you out on your dishonest formulation of the question, does not mean it was "too difficult" for me to render.
Sitting in judgement in front of God (or whoever God sends to judge) and saying "God didnt give me a choice!" is not gonna work friend. Thats all Im here to do. Take care
No you didn't get it, no matter how much protest. Clearly. Simple logic is too difficult for you. Stick to children's stories. Don't worry about answering why you think it's ok for your god to kill/take the lives of children, it was also too difficult for you to manoeuvre around.
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King-Over-Kingz
That's why you didn't answer the question huh?
I answered your questions no problem to the last one. You're too scared to answer mine.
I'm not worried about that. I'm just thankful to God for what's been done in my life. I could still answer your question whenever you provide me with the same treatment in regards to my question. I doubt it though since you seem scared of it so we'll leave it at that. Take care brethren 
Things the Godly say.
Well, I don't know. Assuming the child is an adult, and the parents gave the car as a gift, and they no longer have ownership of it, I don't know if they have any legal grounds to take the car back.
And again, I'm not sure if the analogy fits. Not only is god taking away this "gift of life", but also damning you to an eternity of hellfire ... if you believe that sort of thing. So not only are the parents taking the car back, they're locking the child in the basement to be tortured for the rest of their lives....
This is more analogous, no? Do you think THIS is a moral act for the parents to perform because they didn't like the choices of their child?
But I don't choose it. I am compelled not to believe because I have a desire to believe as many true things as possible. According to some believers God made me this way. And as far as I'm concerned, I have no way to determine the validity of Christianity any more than I have the ability to confirm the hundreds of other religious beliefs. No religion is proven to likely be true, so my only option is abstinence in my belief towards the existence of a god. I don't have a connection/relationship with a supernatural being. Deistic arguments for the existence of god aren't convincing. Atheism is the only other option. It's not that I don't want to be a theist and decide one day to not believe. I sought God, and realized that if I wanted to be intellectually honest, I had to accept the fact that these beliefs are unfounded.
Well then his "gift" of free will is ultimately a curse. If I have to use faith to accept these extraordinary claims as true, and he cannot give me any better evidence than the bible, then my soul is damned already. A just, knowledgeable god would understand that believing something true is not a matter of deciding if it's true or not. It's a matter of examining supporting evidence for the claim. I can't just DECIDE to believe that someone was born of a virgin, healed the sick and served as a sacrificial lamb for all humanity any more than I can just DECIDE one day I can jump off the roof of my house and fly. I mean, I can TELL you/everyone I believe that ... but ... deep down I KNOW if I do something like that I can't fly. Believing something doesn't make it true.