God's 12 Biggest d1ck Moves in the Old Testament

[Everythingg]

Another thing you can't work out. Try praying for an answer.

Do you want my attention? I ask because you really arent providing any insight into anything. Just coming in and trying to harp on one point to cause an argument.

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/why-...believe-3-min-vid.184625/page-13#post-7115665

 

[Everythingg]

I. No, I don't think God's standard should be different. An act being moral or not shouldn't be dependant on who's performing the act ... nor when the act was performed. Rape is wrong, and has always been wrong. Slavery is wrong and has always been wrong. It doesn't matter if God kills you, the devil kills you, or if I kill you. The net outcome is still negative, and I view it as wrong.

Why?

II. I mean, obviously I don't pray anymore because I don't think I'm talking to anyone. But at one time, as I was going through my "de-conversion", I did pray about it and read scripture and yes spoke to people able what I thought and my struggles with feeling a need to confirm the validity of my beliefs in God, and Jesus as his son. And after several years of research and reading these arguments for and against the existence of god, I eventually came to the realization that I could no longer say I was an active believer in God. I could not say whether or not these stories within my religion were true, and I couldn't say whether the universe necessitates the existence of a god .... I just don't know.

I dont think this is a good way to search for God. I would think you would personalize it more

III. I mean wasn't Christ's birth prophesied in the OT, in your opinion?

In some ways yes. In other ways, the NT writers seemed to force scripture to fit him that didnt seem to be prophecy. What I will say is, that he seemed to get prophecies right. If you look at how the world is and such.

 

[NoMayo15]

Why?

I thought I just explained it. Why what?

I dont think this is a good way to search for God. I would think you would personalize it more

I don't know what you mean by this.

In some ways yes. In other ways, the NT writers seemed to force scripture to fit him that didnt seem to be prophecy. What I will say is, that he seemed to get prophecies right. If you look at how the world is and such.

Hm... I agree.

 

[Everythingg]

I thought I just explained it. Why what?

Why do you think God should be bound by what you are?

I don't know what you mean by this.

I dont think looking at "people's reasonings for and against God's existence" is a good way to search for God's existence.Of course you can take man's opinion into account, but I dont know why one would base their faith and being on such. Especially if the bible is correct in what it says

Hm... I agree.

You agree with the whole thing?

 

[the cac mamba]

Me saying that I am thankful for what God has done in my life makes me selfish? How so, friend?

why are u so arrogant to think that there's a supreme being that gave you priority over indian kids living in shythole slums who will die before they hit double digits?

 

[NoMayo15]

Why do you think God should be bound by what you are?

Because I think if there's an objective standard of morality, an act is immoral regardless of who does it.

I dont think looking at "people's reasonings for and against God's existence" is a good way to search for God's existence.Of course you can take man's opinion into account, but I dont know why one would base their faith and being on such. Especially if the bible is correct in what it says

Fair enough, and I suppose the majority of believers weren't convinced because of the cosmological argument or whatever other arguments. I think personal revelation is the only way I could be convinced, and justified in belief. But until I get said revelation, the only honest position for me to take is to abstain from believing.

You agree with the whole thing?

I agree that later writers probably forced scripture to try to fit prophecies, yes. I'm not sure about what prophecies you think are coming true in the world today.... I'm not particularly convinced by prophecy though.

 

[Everythingg]

why are u so arrogant to think that there's a supreme being that gave you priority over indian kids living in shythole slums who will die before they hit double digits?

Who said this?

 

[the cac mamba]

Who said this?

you said 'you thank god for what hes done in your life"

unless i missed the point of ur shyt

 

[Everythingg]

Because I think if there's an objective standard of morality, an act is immoral regardless of who does it.

What created morality?

Fair enough, and I suppose the majority of believers weren't convinced because of the cosmological argument or whatever other arguments. I think personal revelation is the only way I could be convinced, and justified in belief. But until I get said revelation, the only honest position for me to take is to abstain from believing.

Do you think the Creator (lets say you believe He exists) deserves that kind of respect? You're not searching for yourself and then you DEMAND that He does something for you to believe? I would think one would be more respectful. At least I would. Why wouldnt you do effort on YOUR side and see if God reveals Himself in your life?

I agree that later writers probably forced scripture to try to fit prophecies, yes. I'm not sure about what prophecies you think are coming true in the world today.... I'm not particularly convinced by prophecy though.

So did you read the bible front to back??

 

[Everythingg]

you said 'you thank god for what hes done in your life"

unless i missed the point of ur shyt

Good. Im glad you quoted what I typed. Now please tell me how what you just quoted turns to this:

why are u so arrogant to think that there's a supreme being that gave you priority over indian kids living in shythole slums who will die before they hit double digits?

Are you trying to project things onto me?

 

[Ego Noir]

2) Turning Lot's Wife to Salt

Most folks know about the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, two cities of sin God decided to kill everyone in instead of, you know, making them not full of sin. But this was a town that, when two angels were staying at Lot's place, gathered en masse and asked if they could rape them. I repeat: They wanted to rape angels. So they kind of had their destruction coming. Lot and his family were sent from the city before things went down, and Lot's wife looked back, and God turned her into a pillar of salt. It's generally understood that Lot's wife was looking back in a wistful kind of way at her angel-raping hometown, but the fact is there's nothing in the Bible to suggest this. Nor was Lot's family warned about looking back. Maybe Lot's wife wanted to see Sodom and Gomorrah get what was coming to it. Maybe she was thinking wistfully of the things she had to leave behind. Maybe she wondered if she left the oven on. We'll never know, because God turned her into seasoning for breaking a rule she didn't know existed. (Genesis 19:26)

Stopped reading right there cause it became obvious this list is an ill informed troll job.

 

[noon]

Probably because of this

 

[NoMayo15]

What created morality?

A combination of reality and sociocultural factors.

Do you think the Creator (lets say you believe He exists) deserves that kind of respect? You're not searching for yourself and then you DEMAND that He does something for you to believe? I would think one would be more respectful. At least I would. Why wouldnt you do effort on YOUR side and see if God reveals Himself in your life?

What do you mean? I don't think it's disrespectful to ask for the same type of evidence that convinced Moses or Lot. Again, I disagree with you that I'm "not searching". There's a difference between seeing god in everything and saying everything is proof of god, and trying to objectively find the true god. It's like that sword in the field video. It's not enough to say "look at the trees, look at the clouds. God did that, so believe". I don't (and tbh no one) knows that a god did any of it, much less the Christian god specifically. So if I'm going to believe in the Abrahamic god, then I'm going to need to see some type of evidence ... some type of objective confirmation. You've been very vague on exactly what you think I SHOULD be doing, and instead you've just criticized what you think I've only done. Fact of the matter is for the overwhelmingly majority of my life I was a believer in God, and did all the things people claim to do to establish a relationship with him. It wasn't until I questioned why I thought these things were true that I was able to leave the church. So why is it so much to ask God to reveal himself when he has done so for others, and would take practically no effort for him to do? To me it seems like I'm doing all the effort, begging at the top of my lungs, when all it would take is a mere whisper from him to convince me. And then you accuse me of being lazy or selfish. I don't understand that train of thought.

So did you read the bible front to back??

Yeah, so what? I'm someone who's almost obsessed with religion, and I've taken courses and read some of the Qu'ran, Bhagavad Gita, and other religious texts. But what does this have to do with my original question.

 

[Everythingg]

A combination of reality and sociocultural factors.

What created the reality and the sociocultural factors you speak of?

What do you mean? I don't think it's disrespectful to ask for the same type of evidence that convinced Moses or Lot. Again, I disagree with you that I'm "not searching". There's a difference between seeing god in everything and saying everything is proof of god, and trying to objectively find the true god. It's like that sword in the field video. It's not enough to say "look at the trees, look at the clouds. God did that, so believe". I don't (and tbh no one) knows that a god did any of it, much less the Christian god specifically. So if I'm going to believe in the Abrahamic god, then I'm going to need to see some type of evidence ... some type of objective confirmation. You've been very vague on exactly what you think I SHOULD be doing, and instead you've just criticized what you think I've only done. Fact of the matter is for the overwhelmingly majority of my life I was a believer in God, and did all the things people claim to do to establish a relationship with him. It wasn't until I questioned why I thought these things were true that I was able to leave the church. So why is it so much to ask God to reveal himself when he has done so for others, and would take practically no effort for him to do? To me it seems like I'm doing all the effort, begging at the top of my lungs, when all it would take is a mere whisper from him to convince me. And then you accuse me of being lazy or selfish. I don't understand that train of thought.

I didnt accuse you of being lazy or selfish lol. God Almighty chose those men for specific purposes. God didnt choose you or I for those specific purposes so why would we be treated in the exact manner they were? I do think thats very disrespectful the way you demand God to do something. You act as if God owes you something. HE DOESNT.

Begging at the top of your lungs is looking at "arguments for and against God"? Begging at the top of your lungs is telling me? I would think if you were really interested in knowing you would pray on it, and read His word to show genuine interest.

Yeah, so what? I'm someone who's almost obsessed with religion, and I've taken courses and read some of the Qu'ran, Bhagavad Gita, and other religious texts. But what does this have to do with my original question.

"Studying religions" is alot different from practicing them. Theres probably millions of christians that know the bible but do not follow the Spirit of it. And same with other religions.

What was your original question?

 

[Everythingg]

Probably because of this

Brehs screenshottin my posts now?