Given Up On Student Loan Payments

Rawtid

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some (rich kids)are more entitled than others. if the children of the rich are avoiding 100G's in debt because they won the birth lottery then i sure as hell am not paying 100G's to get a fukken education just because i was born to a poor family.

Both a "poor" and "rich" family can save for their child's education.
 

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:stopitslime: money gonna just fall out tha sky into the hands of the poor children, breh?

Of course not, but people have to realize that college plans shouldn't start in 12th grade. Hell they should be in place way before high school in fact. If you delay your plan you should delay going to college until you know what you want to do and when you have the means to pay for it.

-Go to community college
-Get a job and save
-Look for scholarships

Borrowing is the last resort and shouldn't be considered until a solid college plan is in place. How are you a D student with no idea what you want to major in talking about going to college? Then you take out thousands of dollars in loans and expect it to put your life together for you. People set themselves up for failure.
 

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Of course not, but people have to realize that college plans shouldn't start in 12th grade. Hell they should be in place way before high school in fact. If you delay your plan you should delay going to college until you know what you want to do and when you have the means to pay for it.

-Go to community college
-Get a job and save
-Look for scholarships

Borrowing is the last resort and shouldn't be considered until a solid college plan is in place. How are you a D student with no idea what you want to major in talking about going to college? Then you take out thousands of dollars in loans and expect it to put your life together for you. People set themselves up for failure.
Bruh, you are heartless.

Consider the communities student grow up in. You can say that with the wealth of knowledge available nobody should be unprepared, but the fact is, this knowledge doesn't always make it to students and families of lower income. Nor does it make a difference when people are poor... they simply cannot save.

Add this in with the fact the college tuition has skyrocketed in the last ten years. The system is well past broken, and if you fail to see that you shouldn't be speaking on the matter.

:snoop:@thinking a little hoe ass job at mcdonalds is gonna help a person save for college.
 

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What is so ridiculous about saving up money for education?
I see college served you well, you know how to ignore the most prominent points someone is making and respond with red herrings. You would serve well as a GOP strategist.

Sports are not necessary in getting into a good school. Unless you're using them for scholarships, then it's pretty much a personal decision. Also, there are NON SPORTS related scholarships. You can still pursue extracurricular activities, work and go to school. My nephew does it now LOL!
No one said you had to play sports to get scholarships, I said sports AND extracurricular activities. Basically, you are not getting into a good program these days if you're not well-rounded. What kind of response is "there are non-sports related scholarships," no shyt, that wasn't my point.

I was using a specific example where dude said he saved up 1000 in 10 months at age 14. If he kept that up from 14-18 he'd have money to pay for a year at community college. If he continued to work AND go to school (which is not impossible or unheard of), he could have enough to pay for the next year pretty quickly. Again you keep up with this type of hustle until you reach your educational goals. Getting out of school, debt free making 4x than what you're used to sets you up nice in life Graduating with debt puts you behind.
Now think about how unrealistic this is for 80% of teenagers who probably won't see a job until they're 16 and when they have the highest unemployment rate in the country. ESPECIALLY in poor areas.

The reality is that the cost of education is going up. Along with the cost of everything. Does that mean I agree with it? No, but I prepare for it by saving. The reason behind Why college is so expensive is a completely different topic altogether. My point is that you don't have to take out student loans in order to go to college and I've given several ways how you can pay for it by NOT borrowing yet you YOU think it's impossible. I don't think that way. Again if saving up a few thousand dollars over a period of time is impossible, then your financial future is so crazy limited. I don't have a goose, shytting out golden eggs helping me along the way. I just have a job, a budget and financial goals. Nothing more than the average working person has. LMMFAO at me disappointing you. I don't even know you.
You think that the fact that I have clearly pointed out how unrealistic these alternatives your presenting are, is some indicator of me saying that something is impossible. I've thoroughly more or less showed how impractical 99% of the alternatives you've provided are on a large-scale but you continue to act as if "having a budget and financial goals are enough" for any sizable portion of society. You're giving good general practical advice, but even with that advice, most people would still be in the same predicament.

Once you recognize that, it's time to work on those structural issues. The discussion you're having then becomes fruitless. I will repeat, you're offering individual remedies for a collective problem.
 

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For the record, though cost of living needs to be taken into account (in which obviously elite schools in more affordable areas--or closer to them, I.E. Chicago, Northwestern, Michigan, etc. would rise), this is a picture of the ROI in college degrees: What's Your College Degree Worth? - Businessweek


Notice, no local run of the mill state schools sitting anywhere in the top 200 schools on that list (with like two exceptions). Another reason that it doesn't make sense to pay much to go to local schools, but it's also an indictment on the cost of colleges in general if these are the results you're getting.

:dwillhuh: maybe I'm missing something. But I see a lot of UC's and CS's on that list...
 

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:dwillhuh: maybe I'm missing something. But I see a lot of UC's and CS's on that list...

UC has the best state college system in the country. But that's where I said cost of living isn't being taken into account.
 

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Bruh, you are heartless.

Consider the communities student grow up in. You can say that with the wealth of knowledge available nobody should be unprepared, but the fact is, this knowledge doesn't always make it to students and families of lower income. Nor does it make a difference when people are poor... they simply cannot save.

Add this in with the fact the college tuition has skyrocketed in the last ten years. The system is well past broken, and if you fail to see that you shouldn't be speaking on the matter.

:snoop:@thinking a little hoe ass job at mcdonalds is gonna help a person save for college.

LMMFAO!! They don't have access to the information? That's a lie and I'll leave it at that. People can tell you when the latest Jordans will be in stores or what rapper is beefing with whom, yet they can't find out about alternatives to student loans? Get way the fukk out of here.

I'll say this again but if you think saving up a couple thousand OVER A PERIOD OF TIME is impossible then that's on you. God bless you.
 
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