There isnt any fukking nuance. Making the statement that luka is more impactful than KAJ is purely made for reactions.
The nerve of you to post this bullshyt, when you ran in this thread and immediately referenced Cap's box score #s without any regards to any sort of context.
No mention that the pace during that season had considerably more possessions than today, no mention that season had weaker predecession, and no mention that season had heavy post-play. You referenced stats that would not carry over in this era because they game has changed. Never mind the fact, the game doesn't exist in the box score.
How many times do I need to tell you this? Stop letting box score stats dictate what you see on the floor.
I've gone into detail about the "nuance" of why Cap wouldn't have the same degree of impact in today's game, that he did during his time in the league. In multiple threads. And I've spoken about this topic for a while now.
Again, this is all in relation to big men, in general, as it applies to AD, in today's game, who would've had more offensive impact when the league was more big man-orientated, and not today, where guards/wings have higher sovereignty.
It's the same for Luka, who wouldn't have the exact same offensive impact he has in today's game, if he played in a more specialized role in a past era (particularly during a time when the game ran through big men).
Players don't just automatically have the same impact and influence no matter what era they play in. That is the point I'm trying to state here.
We all know bigs dont get more touches than guards. That's common sense, even when KAJ played with Magic, so what is the point of making that claim other than to try and use the word impact to prop up today's era? Yall dudes still dont see through the bullshyt. Smh
We all know bigs dont get more touches than guards. That's common sense, even when KAJ played with Magic?
If that's common sense, than why the fukk did you post this nonsense:
He'd average 35/15/7 with 4 blks in this era, minimum.
If you're gonna dumb this shyt down to box score stats, these are his when he played with Magic (period during his prime):
24 points
9 rebounds
3 assists
35 minutes
The league-average pace over these seasons was 102 possessions (more than today), and again, this is during a time where offense played inside-out.
Now do you wanna tell me how the fukk you came to the conclusion that Cap would average 11 more points, 6 more rebounds, and 4 more assists (all of which you said are at a minimum), in an era with less possessions, better defensive schemes, greater pool of talent and more variable lineups, as well as having considerably less opportunities to touch the ball while he was on court, given the perimeter based-play of today's league?
What you're saying is theoretically impossible.
Impact is not code for anything other than just that; the impact he had during his time would not be the same in today's league. That doesn't take anything away from what he proved during his time, and his legacy as a player, it only speaks to how the game is different now, from where it once was, and you have to evaluate players differently because of it.