Gillie Da Kid's son Cheese shot and killed in Philly

[Leasy]

I don't even go on south street anymore. Last time I went the energy was so chaotic and negative that I knew that it was a place I no longer wanted to be around. I was just going to get some food but it just felt like something could go down at any moment..........a few weeks after that my therapist's best friend's son got killed in that mass shooting over there.

Philly as a whole is just awful now.

South Street, Rittenhouse, King of Prussia, Center City.....places where it felt like there was never violence, things regularly occur now.

Yeah, people in Philly don't even chill in Philly. It's the counties or Jersey. The crime is fukked up and government doesn't ca

Philadelphia is so bad now that it's almost impossible to get food after 10 pm during the week downtown. Like nothing is open.

Silk City is barely open now......There's barely any clubs. I've grown to hate this place.

Philly night life died when A.I left

Statistically post pandemic is the worst period in the history of Philadelphia.

Philadelphia never had 450 murders in the 90's. In fact by 1999, Philadelphia was down to 292 murders.

As crack started flooding the streets in the mid-80s Philadelphia only had 263 murders in 1984 and 274 in 1985 in a city of 1.7M which is a little bit more than today.

Philadelphia has had 500+ murders the last 3 years and even Center City at night when I was there had a menacing aura with teenagers mobbing everywhere. This city is eating itself alive and a lot of kids don't even find their rec centers and parks as safe spaces.

Bro all your information is incorrect.

I agree with your overall point.
But, the height of the crack era violence nationally was late 80s/early 90s. Most cities saw the highest homicide numbers, and per capita homicide rates in their histories during that stretch.

Philly from 1989 to 1991 averaged more than 450 homicides.

The return to anything close to the killing field numbers of that era is frightening, and nothing to be dismissed. Several cities saw homicides and per capita hom. rates equal or surpass their historic peaks the past few years. Philly surpassed the murders and hovering around the rate.

Philly always had a high murder rate even when Italians and Irish made up most of the city in the 1920s and up. It's just Philly nature to be violent. I believe this shyt is cursed.

Famous Philly entertainers like Meek, Uzi, Embiid all live in NYC

False Meek and Uzi live in NYC but Embiid got a big mansion in Villanova. Some of the Eagles and 76ers players live in Haverford and Main Line. Hurts just bought a big ass house in Haverford. They stay in Philly.

Yeah we did. We had 500 in '90, 440 in '91. I said 450, because we hovered around there for a while...but it was around 440. A good portion of the 70's were bad, the whole Black Mafia era. The Rizzo era, Wilson Goode era and Rendell eras were horrible. 2020 was 560, the highest ever, but this year will probably be around 400. I have no clue what it was last year...I'm not even paying attention.

There were always teenagers everywhere though. Any block away from a high school was a danger zone. Richard Allen dudes used to hang out at Broad & Girard and try to rob kids and adults alike at Broad & Girard. Franklin was a war zone HS. Ish was always happening around Community College because of the kids that hung around Franklin. South Street was always kiddie hop center. If you didn't go with a group, you were getting robbed. There were shootings, and murders in the Penn Relays. Shootings and murders at basketball games...HS and summer leagues. The recs were NEVER safe after dark...and that's still only in certain neighborhoods. I grew up in a rough part of North, and I couldn't even go around to our rec because someone was always getting shot. Mind you, there was a police station directly across the street. Downtown was always dangerous because it was a hotspot of traffic, and from there you could quickly and easily disappear into another neighborhood.

The only difference I see is that I'm an adult now, so I hear about more of them, instead of the ones only in my neighborhood. The same menacing kids I grew up with, the ones still around,


And a lot of them do live in Philly, and Meek is in Philly damn near every day, and has a house here. Uzi here like once a week. Teddy P lived in Philly, Patti still lives in Philly. Marvin Harrison is on his old block like everyday. Most of the other athletes got houses on City Line, or in Conshohocken, or Cherry Hill. And most of them that played here, manage to stay around the area. No one be wanting to pay that high ass Philly tax, when you can go right outside the city and save. And plenty of actors lived downtown.

Facts

 

[ISO]

Bro all your information is incorrect.

Philly always had a high murder rate even when Italians and Irish made up most of the city in the 1920s and up. It's just Philly nature to be violent. I believe this shyt is cursed.


False Meek and Uzi live in NYC but Embiid got a big mansion in Villanova. Some of the Eagles and 76ers players live in Haverford and Main Line. Hurts just bought a big ass house in Haverford. They stay in Philly.

Dude my info ain’t incorrect

And this talk about Philadelphia always having a high murder rate and it being the nature of the city and it being cursed it’s not true…

This is my source Philadelphia is worse now than ever…

Michael A. Nutter

Former Philadelphia Mayor Michael A. Nutter builds on his long career in public service by offering his commentary and expertise on a number of issues. His interests include education, economic growth, technology, governing, leadership, politics, public policy, and public safety.

mikenutterllc.com

If we go back 60 years in 1963 there were 125 murders in Philadelphia in a city then of 2M people near peak population.

That’s approximately 6.2 murders per 100,000 people which is lower than today’s national average murder rate. It was very safe and Philly was already over 30% black in those times. For reference NYC was worse in 1963 than it is today.

Philly got hot in the 70’s, cooled down a bit in the 80’s, got hot again in the 90’s, 00’s to early 10’s was a mixed bag, mid to late 10’s shyt cooled down, now it’s worse than ever. U could also see in the statistics how the proliferation of firearms has had a huge effect.

Also, as for Embiid a report came out saying he was considering playing for the Knicks and how he already lives in NYC, I would assume he owns multiple properties

I know when JJ Redikk played for y’all he owned a townhouse in Brooklyn.

 

[Ozymandeas]

Every Philly nikka got atleast 32 bars they can spit at any given time, but you know 99.99% of the material is gun bars. Thats why everybody looking down awkwardly, they knew it wasnt time for that.

I remember Oschino came to a Stop the Violence rally one time and right before he went on to speak, they played a verse snippet where he was rapping about splitting somebody cabbage. Rappers gotta do better.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Damn RIP. Years ago, Gillie said Cheese wouldn't leave the streets alone and he was gonna find out what comes with that

shyt like this is why I don't speak bad things out loud

 

[nieman]

Dude my info ain’t incorrect

And this talk about Philadelphia always having a high murder rate and it being the nature of the city and it being cursed it’s not true…

This is my source Philadelphia is worse now than ever…

Michael A. Nutter

Former Philadelphia Mayor Michael A. Nutter builds on his long career in public service by offering his commentary and expertise on a number of issues. His interests include education, economic growth, technology, governing, leadership, politics, public policy, and public safety.

mikenutterllc.com

If we go back 60 years in 1963 there were 125 murders in Philadelphia in a city then of 2M people near peak population.

That’s approximately 6.2 murders per 100,000 people which is lower than today’s national average murder rate. It was very safe and Philly was already over 30% black in those times. For reference NYC was worse in 1963 than it is today.

Philly got hot in the 70’s, cooled down a bit in the 80’s, got hot again in the 90’s, 00’s to early 10’s was a mixed bag, mid to late 10’s shyt cooled down, now it’s worse than ever. U could also see in the statistics how the proliferation of firearms has had a huge effect.

Also, as for Embiid a report came out saying he was considering playing for the Knicks and how he already lives in NYC, I would assume he owns multiple properties

I know when JJ Redikk played for y’all he owned a townhouse in Brooklyn.

I've seen that chart numerous times throughout the years, which is why I said 90's were worst. Hell, even in the 90's, there was still a higher rate in total. Yes, the last 2 years have seen us top 500, and are the worst if you go year be year, but in the 90's there was no relief '89-97 topping every year, until COVID, and even then 500 in 90, beating 499 in 2020. This year will probably come in around 400. But, imagine what they were saying back then, if they were saying stuff about the late 2000s and early '10 as being horrible. We didn't realize as much then, but those 90's were bad. And me, I was away at school from '98-'02, so I largely missed the cool-down years.

No one would assume Gillie or Wallo were Muslim aside from them being from Philly. I do agree Poppy is trying to clean this all up though

Y'all didn't know Gillie was Muslim? I thought that was common knowledge. He always mentioned being Muslim on IG, especially around any holiday. hell, damn near every rapper in Philly is a Muslim. Off top, Cassidy, Ms Jade and Eve are probably the only one's that aren't.

So ya son gets killed and you freestyling about gunplay?

Gillie didn't freestyle though. He's teasing Bump, spittin a 20-year old Bump verse, after callin him a washed-up rapper.

But honestly, these dudes were all in the streets and know the consequences of the game. They've taken and dished out, and fortunately were able to escape their past, but a lot aren't as fortunate. The game is the game, but they do be telling youth to get out of that life. Even on their podcast, when they be talking to those younger guys, Gillie & Wallo are alsways telling them what comes next - the same things Gillie used to say he would tell Cheese. But even the guy holding the camera in the clip I posted, asking them to spit, half of them hustled for his organization...under his partner. Dude holding the camera is the uncle of the dude that stole Beans. Those dudes sanctioned a firebombing that killed the family of a would-be-snitch - women and kids. He's legit now, but he had a Gangsters: America's Most Evil episode.

 

[OG Talk]

Here's some bars...but mostly jokes

Damn you can see in Gillie's eyes he's tired. Probably hasn't slept in days , soul looks drained.



Prayers to him his family

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

I've seen that chart numerous times throughout the years, which is why I said 90's were worst. Hell, even in the 90's, there was still a higher rate in total. Yes, the last 2 years have seen us top 500, and are the worst if you go year be year, but in the 90's there was no relief '89-97 topping every year, until COVID, and even then 500 in 90, beating 499 in 2020. This year will probably come in around 400. But, imagine what they were saying back then, if they were saying stuff about the late 2000s and early '10 as being horrible. We didn't realize as much then, but those 90's were bad. And me, I was away at school from '98-'02, so I largely missed the cool-down years.


Y'all didn't know Gillie was Muslim? I thought that was common knowledge. He always mentioned being Muslim on IG, especially around any holiday. hell, damn near every rapper in Philly is a Muslim. Off top, Cassidy, Ms Jade and Eve are probably the only one's that aren't.



Gillie didn't freestyle though. He's teasing Bump, spittin a 20-year old Bump verse, after callin him a washed-up rapper.

But honestly, these dudes were all in the streets and know the consequences of the game. They've taken and dished out, and fortunately were able to escape their past, but a lot aren't as fortunate. The game is the game, but they do be telling youth to get out of that life. Even on their podcast, when they be talking to those younger guys, Gillie & Wallo are alsways telling them what comes next - the same things Gillie used to say he would tell Cheese. But even the guy holding the camera in the clip I posted, asking them to spit, half of them hustled for his organization...under his partner. Dude holding the camera is the uncle of the dude that stole Beans. Those dudes sanctioned a firebombing that killed the family of a would-be-snitch - women and kids. He's legit now, but he had a Gangsters: America's Most Evil episode.

So basically he a piece of shyt goofy attention whore shytty father loser!

 

[Frump]

“it’s just a hurdle in the road”

A weird way to describe someone losing a son

That’s something you never get over it’s not a hurdle in the road

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

I've seen that chart numerous times throughout the years, which is why I said 90's were worst. Hell, even in the 90's, there was still a higher rate in total. Yes, the last 2 years have seen us top 500, and are the worst if you go year be year, but in the 90's there was no relief '89-97 topping every year, until COVID, and even then 500 in 90, beating 499 in 2020. This year will probably come in around 400. But, imagine what they were saying back then, if they were saying stuff about the late 2000s and early '10 as being horrible. We didn't realize as much then, but those 90's were bad. And me, I was away at school from '98-'02, so I largely missed the cool-down years.


Y'all didn't know Gillie was Muslim? I thought that was common knowledge. He always mentioned being Muslim on IG, especially around any holiday. hell, damn near every rapper in Philly is a Muslim. Off top, Cassidy, Ms Jade and Eve are probably the only one's that aren't.



Gillie didn't freestyle though. He's teasing Bump, spittin a 20-year old Bump verse, after callin him a washed-up rapper.

But honestly, these dudes were all in the streets and know the consequences of the game. They've taken and dished out, and fortunately were able to escape their past, but a lot aren't as fortunate. The game is the game, but they do be telling youth to get out of that life. Even on their podcast, when they be talking to those younger guys, Gillie & Wallo are alsways telling them what comes next - the same things Gillie used to say he would tell Cheese. But even the guy holding the camera in the clip I posted, asking them to spit, half of them hustled for his organization...under his partner. Dude holding the camera is the uncle of the dude that stole Beans. Those dudes sanctioned a firebombing that killed the family of a would-be-snitch - women and kids. He's legit now, but he had a Gangsters: America's Most Evil episode.

Eve is funny she once said she was with muslims during her younger age and went masjid ..but now remains spiritual not religous.

 

[wire28]

“it’s just a hurdle in the road”

A weird way to describe someone losing a son

That’s something you never get over it’s not a hurdle in the road

nikka equated that shyt to failing a test in high school, im blown

 

[Art Barr]

A little late hearing about this.


Rest in power



Art Barr

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Here's some bars...but mostly jokes

Thanks for posting the clip.

But.....I assumed a reason why they were hesitant to start rapping. And it was confirmed when Spade started it off. The second line out of his mouth is reference to gunplay. Most of their rhymes are street related with similar gun and violence references. He couldn't pull a positive, uplifting verse from his catalog of songs or freestyle material. Don't know if the others did, since I cut it off after the "shoot like Dame" bar.

Yeah one dude was rapping about clips and techs and stuff and I was like WTF. Like yall don't have anything that's not about shooting and killing each other.

Every Philly nikka got atleast 32 bars they can spit at any given time, but you know 99.99% of the material is gun bars. Thats why everybody looking down awkwardly, they knew it wasnt time for that.

Looks like they had Gillie in good spirits yesterday. Mike Knox was tryna get everyone to spit bars, and they were all laughin and joking. Spade-O, Bump, Knox, Black Deniro, Bianca...callin each other washed up rappers, needing help on bars...

So ya son gets killed and you freestyling about gunplay?

Damn you can see in Gillie's eyes he's tired. Probably hasn't slept in days , soul looks drained.



Prayers to him his family

Let me say something as someone who lost a child.. Not as old, not for the same reasons..

You grieve how you want.. You watch that video and he's half dead... Until motherfukking Spade starts rapping.. Then it's huge smiles.. Till nikkas STOP rapping.. Then he fades... Tells some jokes.. Ol Girl shows up, he's ecstatic..

He's still a musician at heart.. Don't matter what the song is saying.. You want to hear some music.. You want to hear some bars.. You want to see another person who loves music, and his passion, and his thoughts, cause you ain't got it in you right now.

I get it.. Gun bars.. Killing bars.. But you don't grow up and hear and love and become rich from that music and then boom, never want to hear that again.. That's why they first said they ain't got those kind of bars... Then they checked with him... About anything? He's like yea and everybody else was on it.. They was just scared to.. But I would have gone all the way in.. Found some shyt about somebody dying and it fukking me up.. And spit it to that nikka with all my feels

Cause that's exactly what you want in those moments.. Your people who love you, who know you, around you, smiling, laughing, having a good time, in the midst of tradegy.. To give you some routine from the crying you do all day alone or with your girl.. Or you been doing all week. To give you a fukking break.. Not to keep bringing the shyt up and definitely not change who you are all and start changing up how you talk or subject matter or I ask you to spit that shyt I love, and you give me motivational bars when I'm just trying to fukking chill and have an hour or 5 without thinking about the shyt

 

[OG Talk]

Let me say something as someone who lost a child.. Not as old, not for the same reasons..

You grieve how you want.. You watch that video and he's half dead... Until motherfukking Spade starts rapping.. Then it's huge smiles.. Till nikkas STOP rapping.. Then he fades... Tells some jokes.. Ol Girl shows up, he's ecstatic..

He's still a musician at heart.. Don't matter what the song is saying.. You want to hear some music.. You want to hear some bars.. You want to see another person who loves music, and his passion, and his thoughts, cause you ain't got it in you right now.

I get it.. Gun bars.. Killing bars.. But you don't grow up and hear and love and become rich from that music and then boom, never want to hear that again.. That's why they first said they ain't got those kind of bars... Then they checked with him... About anything? He's like yea and everybody else was on it.. They was just scared to.. But I would have gone all the way in.. Found some shyt about somebody dying and it fukking me up.. And spit it to that nikka with all my feels

Cause that's exactly what you want in those moments.. Your people who love you, who know you, around you, smiling, laughing, having a good time, in the midst of tradegy.. To give you some routine from the crying you do all day alone or with your girl.. Or you been doing all week. To give you a fukking break.. Not to keep bringing the shyt up and definitely not change who you are all and start changing up how you talk or subject matter or I ask you to spit that shyt I love, and you give me motivational bars when I'm just trying to fukking chill and have an hour of 5 without thinking about the shyt

Sorry for you losing your child breh.. Gotta be the worst pain imaginable

 

[JoelB]

Let me say something as someone who lost a child.. Not as old, not for the same reasons..

You grieve how you want.. You watch that video and he's half dead... Until motherfukking Spade starts rapping.. Then it's huge smiles.. Till nikkas STOP rapping.. Then he fades... Tells some jokes.. Ol Girl shows up, he's ecstatic..

He's still a musician at heart.. Don't matter what the song is saying.. You want to hear some music.. You want to hear some bars.. You want to see another person who loves music, and his passion, and his thoughts, cause you ain't got it in you right now.

I get it.. Gun bars.. Killing bars.. But you don't grow up and hear and love and become rich from that music and then boom, never want to hear that again.. That's why they first said they ain't got those kind of bars... Then they checked with him... About anything? He's like yea and everybody else was on it.. They was just scared to.. But I would have gone all the way in.. Found some shyt about somebody dying and it fukking me up.. And spit it to that nikka with all my feels

Cause that's exactly what you want in those moments.. Your people who love you, who know you, around you, smiling, laughing, having a good time, in the midst of tradegy.. To give you some routine from the crying you do all day alone or with your girl.. Or you been doing all week. To give you a fukking break.. Not to keep bringing the shyt up and definitely not change who you are all and start changing up how you talk or subject matter or I ask you to spit that shyt I love, and you give me motivational bars when I'm just trying to fukking chill and have an hour of 5 without thinking about the shyt

You are right, you can see Gil face light up

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

Let me say something as someone who lost a child.. Not as old, not for the same reasons..

You grieve how you want.. You watch that video and he's half dead... Until motherfukking Spade starts rapping.. Then it's huge smiles.. Till nikkas STOP rapping.. Then he fades... Tells some jokes.. Ol Girl shows up, he's ecstatic..

He's still a musician at heart.. Don't matter what the song is saying.. You want to hear some music.. You want to hear some bars.. You want to see another person who loves music, and his passion, and his thoughts, cause you ain't got it in you right now.

I get it.. Gun bars.. Killing bars.. But you don't grow up and hear and love and become rich from that music and then boom, never want to hear that again.. That's why they first said they ain't got those kind of bars... Then they checked with him... About anything? He's like yea and everybody else was on it.. They was just scared to.. But I would have gone all the way in.. Found some shyt about somebody dying and it fukking me up.. And spit it to that nikka with all my feels

Cause that's exactly what you want in those moments.. Your people who love you, who know you, around you, smiling, laughing, having a good time, in the midst of tradegy.. To give you some routine from the crying you do all day alone or with your girl.. Or you been doing all week. To give you a fukking break.. Not to keep bringing the shyt up and definitely not change who you are all and start changing up how you talk or subject matter or I ask you to spit that shyt I love, and you give me motivational bars when I'm just trying to fukking chill and have an hour of 5 without thinking about the shyt

Someone in this thread posted how dude is literally responsible for murdering lil kids himself so I don't give a fukk how he mourning his son and if it is sincere!


Sorry for your loss tho!