Jokic got shutdown by an undrafted guy in the finals (Naz reid)
Luka got picked on all playoffs defensively by guys nowhere near as talented as he is
That's a testament to how skilled this era is if undrafted guys can hang with superstars
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Jokic got shutdown by an undrafted guy in the finals (Naz reid)
Luka got picked on all playoffs defensively by guys nowhere near as talented as he is
That's a testament to how skilled this era is if undrafted guys can hang with superstars
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Yeah people forget but there were like 6 straight years of shytty draft classes where outside of the top picks like Gary Payton, Shaq, and Zo, everything else was trash.
Yagirlcheatinonus
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Dudes injured less nowadays cuz they not playing as hard. On another note the players of today would have to adjust their game to the physical basketball style or end up in the D league
And what numbers might these be? Box score stats? Let's see them.
How would surface numbers where these 'top dogs' in the 90s accumulated their numbers against worst talent be relevant anyway?
It's obvious you don't know what the fukk you're talking about.TF??
Ewing, Olajuwon, Shaq, and David Robinson would like a word with you. Hell even Rik Smits wants to get at you. You didn't see the era and it's obvious so you shouldn't type shyt like this cuz in makes sense in your head.
Rik Smits?
Nxgga, when the fukk did Smits regularly play 40 minutes in the playoffs? When the fukk did Smits have a heavy load on offense comparable to Jokic?
DRob isn't relevant considering he's not Jokic's size, and neither is Dream. Shaq is the most accurate example and even he's an outlier, and not the norm of the NBA back then for players his size. Regardless of that, I take it that poster was referring more to Jokic's size and [lack of] athleticism. Most players Jokic's size had smaller roles because they were pigenholed, because they either were not capable and/or not allowed to be the centerpiece of offenses for both scoring and playmaking
It's obvious you didn't see that era if you think players with the same level of athleticism and size were dominating like Jokic is now.
Why assume I'm a young cat? Especially since you can clearly see I've been on this board since day one. Why assume younger generations aren't clued up enough to understand? Why launch into some bullshyt about younger generations when I was merely making a comment debating a point around how different Jokic is to a player-type from a previous era?I don't speak on Wilt, Russell, West, etc cuz I didn't see em play. You young cats should try that. But I'm afraid in this era of hot takes and clap backs it's too late
The shyt that kills me about the younger generation claiming to be more skilled.....
You typed out all that bullshyt for nothing, all because you got in your feelings about an innocuous comment.
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not too mention that dude inhaled cigars and was barely sleeping
I'm in my feelings but you typing mad hard and cussing. OK. I assume you young cuz of the dumb shyt you wrote. You said players Jokic size didn't play 40+ minutes in the playoffs and handle scoring loads. I named you players comparably sized to Jokic and you dismissed it cuz they don't have the exact same body type. FOH. Rik Smits was option 1A to Reggie Miller. You unfamiliar. Youtube him. You just saying anything that sounds good. "Most players Jokic size had smaller roles". You mean Brad Daugherty? Kevin Duckworth? Vlade Divac? Cuz they had to put the ball in the basket for their teams too.
I assume you young cuz your argument is uninformed and not based on real time experience or you wouldn't say these things. Being on this board from day 1 don't mean shyt. Did it exist in the 80's? 90's? No? So GTFOH then.
I finally found footage of Ron Harper battles against Michael Jordan when Harper was in Cleveland. This shows that Jordan had excellent competition during his era and it shows that if Ron Harper did not have knee injuries he would have been considered an all time great player like other guards in his era. Harper blocked Jordan's shots and Jordan even fouled out of a game trying to guard Ron Harper. Harper was that dude. He became an excellent role player once he lost his explosiveness. and I am telling you guys that these young guys that are stars in the NBA right now are not as good as Ron Harper was when he was in Cleveland.
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Yagirlcheatinonus
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Yeah he was that dude. I think the difference in eras is just the advancement in medicine and technology. Not to mention the game is less physical. Ron was a dog
Yep Harper mentioned how physical the NBA used to be in one of those interviews. He said that it was like hand to hand combat.
“Mike, you know I gave you the business” : Ron Harper when asked if he ever beat his Chicago Bulls teammate Michael Jordon in one-on-one
Even Michael Jordan acknowledged that Ron Harper played him tough when discussing that famous game winning shot over Craig Ehlo:
"While talking about his famous Buzzer beater against Cleveland in the 1989 playoffs, Jordan said “they had Craig Ehlo guarding me at that time, which was a mistake; Because the guy that played me better was Ron Harper”.
"Mike, you know I gave you the business" : Ron Harper when asked if he ever beat his Chicago Bulls teammate Michael Jordon in one-on-one
Ron Harper was one of the vital role players in the Chicago Bulls squad from 1994-1999. Some even compared him with MJ in his early years.
what's your goal in downplaying MJ
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