GGG vs Kell Brook September 10th R.I.P Kell Brook/Chocolatito-Cuadras & JSK-Kamegai 2

[GzUp]

What are you talking about, I never said Kell Brook was the same size as GGG

He caught with his right hand down, period

if GGG didn't have the weight advantage, the damage wouldn't have been the same

I said the only way GGG can win if he lands a lucky big punch, and that's what happened

That was the hardest shot he took and he didn't have too, and it cost him the fight

He had a small margin for error but the fight was winnable, I didn't think he would get clipped in the first round, but he came out tentative

The jab that broke his face a lucky punch?

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

A lot of people hype up sparring here like it's an actual fight. Going by that logic, spadafora would've beat Floyd if they fought back then. Maybe ggg should move up to lhw or cw if he's dropping all these guys in the gym.

kell brook got the GOAT chin. even heavyweight power couldn't drop him

 

[Newzz]

The same guy he beat in 4 rounds right. Kell Brook is too big for welterweight, weight cut has to affect the water in his brain so he probably is easy to stun at welterweight. He will be very strong at 160, I can tell by his build, he will be faster and stronger than he is at 147. I know it's MMA, but Anthony Johnson was getting KO'd at welterweight, he's moved up two weight classes and has yet to be KO'd, because he's not drained

They said the same thing when I said Lebron was gonna beat the warriors. You've got to have vision. GGG only chance of winning is a one punch KO, which I doubt will happen. Brook is not only the most skilled person GGG has fought, he is the toughest physically and mentally. He can stand up to GGG's power, which is overrated to me.

Look at how Canelo did Kirkland, you would think he was a beast like GGG to until you put me in there with somebody with a pulse.

Cotto ran through Gaele just like GGG if not even better lmao these are the types of bums GGG been fighting.

Kell Brook could get a big fight and at 147 and 154 against Canelo if he wanted. He picked GGG because he knows he can beat him, GGG is slow as fukk, you will see how slow when they fight.

after I'm proven right, I will forgive you for your ignorance.

5 rounds, a broken eye socket, and a quit job later its:

GGG only beat Kell Brook because of weight lmao

You mean to tell me that a Middleweight Champion beat a Welterweight Champion because the size came into play & the Middleweight Champion was too big & strong?

Whaaaaaattttttt?

 

[Yuzo]

Notice how with his footwork his made those quick cuts in change of direction to keep cornering brooks which were subtle but effective?

brook doesnt know how to use the ring.

he constantly went into corners. you are supposed to curve around corners.

Spoiler

he constantly sat on the ropes. you are supposed to press down on your front foot and turn off of the ropes.

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he never had his jab going so he never gave golovkin anything to worry about on the way in. so golovkin just came in.

golovkin just walked to brook. trainers really hate when you just walk to a guy. you cross your feet. so you walk into punches. but you can move quick when you just walk in. you cross your feet when you just walk in but you can chase a guy down quicker. especially a guy who is going to go into corners and sit on the ropes for you.

master teacher made a comment on the ropes brook needed to grab golovkin. he was right. grab golovkin walk him back into the center of the ring. or press down on your front foot and turn off of the ropes. you never need to be anywhere in the ring you dont want to be.

 

[Yuzo]

Nah Canelo can slip and parry jabs pretty well.

The big difference is most cats he fought hardly commit to a strong hard jab ( full extent, snapping, and stepping deep into his range to push him back) Golovkin has one of those types of jabs though.

thats because they cant. or they wont because they are tentative.

they are tentative because he has very good head movement.

he can make you miss and he can come over your jab with a counter right hand in the same motion too.

throwing a good hard and heavy jab is a very dangerous thing to do whenever when you see a guy doing this in front of you. thats why they dont.

 

[The axe murderer]

brook doesnt know how to use the ring.

he constantly went into corners. you are supposed to curve around corners.

Spoiler

he constantly sat on the ropes. you are supposed to press down on your front foot and turn off of the ropes.

Spoiler

he never had his jab going so he never gave golovkin anything to worry about on the way in. so golovkin just came in.

golovkin just walked to brook. trainers really hate when you just walk to a guy. you cross your feet. so you walk into punches. but you can move quick when you just walk in. you cross your feet when you just walk in but you can chase a guy down quicker. especially a guy who is going to go into corners and sit on the ropes for you.

master teacher made a comment on the ropes brook needed to grab golovkin. he was right. grab golovkin walk him back into the center of the ring. or press down on your front foot and turn off of the ropes. you never need to be anywhere in the ring you dont want to be.

Rep pending. Did you watch the Cuadras/Gonzalez match? I feel as though Cuadras did a better job of this in the later rounds since Roman has a similar style to GGG (but is more defensively responsible).

 

[GzUp]

 

[Master Teacher]

The jab that broke his face a lucky punch?

A jab didn't break his face lmao stop with this nonsense

even jim lampley acknowlegded it was from the left hook, in the first round what fight were you watching

and yes it was lucky, Kell brook lost the fight on his own stupidity and the fact he has the facial structure of a teenage boy

 

[HARLEM AL]

Golovkin vs. Canelo sparring session: A look back | Boxing News & Results
“Golovkin was not supposed to give Canelo the ‘full treatment,’ and it was clear from the sparring I saw that he was indeed holding back,” Doug Fisher said to RingTV.com. ”Still, Golovkin ‘holding back’ was a lot for Canelo, only 20 at the time, to deal with…He couldn’t hurt Golvokin with his best shots. Golovkin hurt Alvarez a few times – a hook at the end of the second round visibly stunned him and some body shots made him wince – but the young man kept his head and found ways to compete even when he was clearly tired (a combination of the altitude and GGG’s pressure) in the last two rounds.”

Fisher went on to say that as the rounds went by, Canelo faded and took more punishment, even though Golovkin was taking it easy on him and not giving him the full treatment like he could have. Golovkin did a lot of shifting with his feet to get in position to crank on his body shots against the red-haired Canelo and this really bothered. Golovkin wasn’t trying to tee off on Canelo to score a knockout. He was, however, putting some respectable power on his body shots.

Doug fisher ay

FYI GGG jab isn't a solid jab. He pushes it out to get his combinations off.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

I wouldn't use that word breh


Brook kind of provided a blueprint tho. He got his punches off first and tied him up. Against a guy who's great at cutting off the ring, it's better to tie him up rather than using more energy to try and escape. The only thing is he got pushed back to the ropes too much where he took too many combos from ggg.


Now knowing about the eye socket, I can't complain about the stoppage. Dude would've had the Margarito stare if he kept going.

I think so

Only resaon he was getting pushed to rope was size. Ward is not getting backed up by this guy

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

thats because they cant. or they wont because they are tentative.

they are tentative because he has very good head movement.

he can make you miss and he can come over your jab with a counter right hand in the same motion too.

throwing a good hard and heavy jab is a very dangerous thing to do whenever when you see a guy doing this in front of you. thats why they dont.

Indeed

but, Canelo ain't moving his head like that constantly throughout the fight. The nikka ain't Joe Frazier
I wouldn't suggest throwing the same type of jabs over and over at him either.

You gotta time him with those heavy hard jabs. nikkas do it once or twice at the wrong moment and get countered and just drop it altogether.

Me personally, whenever I had a nikka doing that head movement shyt in front of me, I'd start feinting with the jab and then throw straight crosses to the body and then pivot out of there.

Canelo got good upper body movement, so if someone were to jab heavy while circling close, they could crowd him and take advantage of his tree trunk legs. Lara made that work for a while, but instead of taking chances with power shots when he had him ready for it (middle rds) he got spooked with the body shots and gave ground. Pretty much gave up on a working strategy.

 

[Newzz]

So, at the time of the stoppage, Brook was ahead on 1 of the judges cards 39-37 (up 3 rounds to 1 ), and 38-38 on the other 2 cards.


Amazing that Brook was rocked in the 1st round, but yet 2 judges gave him the 1st round


They were about to rob GGG

 

[Scottie Drippin]

Canelo hitting 97g with those same uppercuts as "weak" Brook would shatter him. 97g got shaken up by a blown up welter breh. Canelo is a big boy and FLoyd said Canelo is the strongest fighter he ever fought lol.


U sound like u in denial and u surrounded by delusions while wishfully thinking.

Of course Canelo is the strongest guy Floyd ever fought, he's the biggest guy he ever fought

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

so in other words, you think canelo will tap that ass:CaneloRejoice:


homie said little g gets nervous on the big stage:CaneLMFAO:

Nice try! If Canelo steps up and fights GGG next fall I will be picking GGG in @Newzz's boxing pic's thread. Nothing has changed, still taking GGG via stoppage.

Thought Roman G won but it was close.

Felt the same as well. It was a close fight and Cuadras did a lot of good work, but I still had Chocolatito winning a close fight. I may need to catch up on what Inoue is all about, because they are saying it is very possible to go down in 2017. Roman attacks offensively with a fury of punches, so he can be countered back, that would worry me vs. a guy with power like Inoue.

at GGG running from Daniel Jacobs


Jacobs has been GGGs mandatory for 2 years and never once tried to get the WBA to enforce it...even knowing that facing GGG would be a career high purse for him

Figured I would quote you homey, than the idiot claiming GGG has been ducking Jacobs. First, Jacobs holds the B-Side of GGG's belt and hasn't been asking for the real version of the title. He has been content defending his off brand WBA shyt. Maybe peeps get confused because GGG calls out Canelo and BJS, but his team has long said they would fight Jacobs. The issue is that when Jacobs team is contacted the other side goes silent. Brehs may hate the media surrounding GGG, but they all report that Jacobs team hasn't been willing to negotiate at all with GGG. Heck earlier this year Jacobs said he thought he needed another full year to be prepared to fight GGG. At least now Jacobs is remembering GGG's name, but according to those rumors you heard he may try and hide behind money (may get bailed out cause HBO is broke as fukk and can't even offer fair wages).

It's crazy breh.

The love affair on canelo in here is bizzare, it's as if posters take sides in here and ride for the fighter they hate opp just because. shyt kills me when I see gifs of canelo and threads of canelo vs ggg, I refuse to engage in that fight senerio with posters now when canelo don't even want the fight.

On sanders, why even comment on him really, hasn't his team been saying his not ready?

BJS is still going to have to be part of the conversation. In the press leading up to this fight GGG said he is sick of calling out Canelo and having Canelo respond in word, but not contract, so he is going to try and spend less attention chasing the fight with Canelo and basically leave it as - when Canelo wants to fight, GGG will sign, but he is for the moment done asking publicly for it, since that hasn't gone anywhere.
BJS still fits his goals in that he wants to unify and has publicly wanted that for a long time. Ideally if GGG and Canelo were to fight, I think Canelo and BJS should fight so Canelo can get GGG's desired 4th belt and be like and set up a monster promotion for fall of 2017. ODH and GB talk of letting the fight marinate to build it up more, that is the only legitimate way of building the fight into something bigger than it is now...the other way is just starving fans (like Mayweather and Pacquiao) and they will buy it anyways out of desperation.

So, at the time of the stoppage, Brook was ahead on 1 of the judges cards 39-37 (up 3 rounds to 1 ), and 38-38 on the other 2 cards.


Amazing that Brook was rocked in the 1st round, but yet 2 judges gave him the 1st round


They were about to rob GGG

Those are bad cards breh. Was my biggest concern for the fight, if it somehow went the distance. I think most probably had it 2-2 and if you were leaning 3-1 I think GGG deserved it more than Kell.

Notice ggg fights differently when he doesn't respect an opponents power (brook, wade, etc) versus how he fights when he's in there with an actual puncher (Lemieux)

Ppl are giving brook too much credit

It still remains the biggest factor I think people ignore about GGG, but also maybe his worst trait. IMO, it isn't worth risking giving the other opponent a shot, when you can dominate them (word to Floyd Mayweather). In the Lemieux and Stevens fights, GGG didn't get caught with any punches near what he caught in the others you mentioned. I don't think it was due to opponent's skill, but rather that GGG visibly made a conscious effort to focus on his defense vs. those two and started off the fights much more cautiously, working behind his jab. @((ReFleX)) is right, GGG backs straight up defensively and gets caught with punches he shouldn't...but that also falls into this caveat as well. That typically is his defensive maneuver when he wants to evade, but not lose any ground to come forward immediately after, which he does against punchers he doesn't respect. Against Lemieux and Stevens he showed a lot more responsibility and respect for their power and was defensively more responsible.

In re-watching Brook vs. GGG, Abel was right, GGG should never have abondoned his jab. Before the fight, I was unsure how effective it would be, due to Brook having a speed advantage, but from the outset GGG's most accurate and damaging punch was his jab. I think GGG got frustrated that because Brook had the head and foot movement of a smaller fighter he was tougher to real in with his head shot power punches so he started walking straight into Brook to try to end the fight quickly. I think if he would have been more patient and worked behind the jab, he would have looked more impressive and would have broken Brook down.

 

[LinusCaldwell]

Is this fight worth a watch didn't wanna support 97G anyone got a link