GGG-Canelo Master Discussion Thread
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Ive said this from jump. I like GGG for Canelo. #CaneloCartel Tko round 9 from uppercuts. Thats the punch that will win him the fight imo
The Fukin Prophecy
RIP Champ
Already got 5 stacks ready for Canelo...
I believe in what I preach...
I believe in what I preach...
Might put 3gs on it..get it
it seems like everyone is going for Nelo.
It does, in boxing forums too.
Felix Trinidad's Father: Golovkin is More Complete, Beats Canelo
By Miguel Rivera
Felix Trinidad Sr., father and head trainer of three division world champion Felix 'Tito' Trinidad, is clearly siding with WBC, WBA, IBF, IBO middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin (37-0, 33 KOs) to defeat Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (49-1-1, 34 KOs).
Last Saturday night at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, the fight was officially announced for September 16th.
Trinidad Sr., who guided his son to world titles at welterweight, junior middleweight and middleweight, does not believe Canelo is physically capable of hanging with GGG at the middleweight limit.
Trinidad Sr. watched Canelo's fight with Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, from last weekend, and he wasn't completely impressed by the performance.
He does not believe Canelo carried up his power to the higher weight, and feels that will hurt him against a fighter like Golovkin.
The fight with Chavez took place at a catch-weight of 164.5-pounds. Prior to that fight, Canelo had never fought any higher than 155.
Chavez appeared to be dead at the weight, which was his lowest since 2012 when he was competing as a middleweight.
Canelo punished him for twelve rounds, battering him with hard shots throughout the contest - but he was never able to score a knockdown or seriously hurt Chavez to the head or body.
"I've always favored Gennady Golovkin to win. In that division, he is more of a complete fighter than Canelo. He can box, punch, he's a technician. He won gold in the amateurs [editor's note: GGG won Olympic silver]. He's a complete fighter in every sense of the word," Trinidad Sr. told Jose Sanchez.
"What I do not know, from the outside looking in, is whether or not [Golovkin] has any weight problems. But it does not look like his performances are declining."
"What Canelo demonstrated [against Chavez Jr.] is that he's strong in the middleweight division but he doesn't have that punch. And that will really work against him against Golovkin."
Trinidad Sr. believes the reason the fight with Chavez Jr. was made, at 164.5-pounds, was to give Canelo a boost of confidence with respect to competing at a higher weight class.
"That fight [with Golovkin] has been sold for some time. The fight with Chavez was perhaps a way to convince themselves that they could [fight] with a middleweight. But there is an abysmal difference between Golovkin and Chávez's son, and you can't use [that fight] as a barometer," Trinidad Sr. said.
"I think what they might be doing is trying to strengthen a positive mentality in Canelo. I saw him talking in the ring with confidence. He said the next fight was with Golovkin. What they were looking for was the perfect moment for Canelo to ask for it, to announce it by saying - 'I want it now because the only one who commands me is me.'"
GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
Looks like GGG's team didn't like what Jacobs did by missing the IBF weigh in and is going to take precautions vs. Canelo. They may feel it keeps things more even...although I dont think weight will decide this fight at all.
Loeffler continued - "I don't know if Danny will ever get the luxury of weighing-in at 9 o'clock and fighting at 11:30 Saturday night and having the opponent do the second day weigh-in. But again, it was all part of how everything unfolded. But I talked to Eric (Gomez, president of Golden Boy Promotions) about that where there are some safeguards in place where it won't be an unfair advantage for one fighter.
"If 'Canelo' chooses not to fight for the IBF title then Gennady won't unfairly be burdened by that second day weigh-in. So not to get into details on that but 'Canelo' has the choice. He can fight for all the titles, he can fight for one title, he can fight for none of the titles and we'll go from there."
- See more at: Canelo vs. Golovkin: Will The IBF World Title Be at Stake? - Boxing News
Loeffler continued - "I don't know if Danny will ever get the luxury of weighing-in at 9 o'clock and fighting at 11:30 Saturday night and having the opponent do the second day weigh-in. But again, it was all part of how everything unfolded. But I talked to Eric (Gomez, president of Golden Boy Promotions) about that where there are some safeguards in place where it won't be an unfair advantage for one fighter.
"If 'Canelo' chooses not to fight for the IBF title then Gennady won't unfairly be burdened by that second day weigh-in. So not to get into details on that but 'Canelo' has the choice. He can fight for all the titles, he can fight for one title, he can fight for none of the titles and we'll go from there."
- See more at: Canelo vs. Golovkin: Will The IBF World Title Be at Stake? - Boxing News
I don't think a world class nutritionist is going to help Canelo that much if he keeps on loading up on all his punches. He doesn't have the stamina for the type of offensive style he uses but it works because he hasn't been fighting guys that can hurt him or pressure him to death.
Canelo has to adjust his punching style if he really wants to hang in there with the big boys at 160. He just can't counter them to death with haymakers for 12 rounds, especially if they can take those shots and still fire back.
That's true, canelo is nothing ggg hadn't seen before, canelo has never faced anything close to ggg.
Want to see Canelo take a heavy punch...thats what really counts here.
..still parading that PR MX oscar Tito rivalry..lol- Status
