GGG-Canelo Master Discussion Thread
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krackdagawd
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@ hbo editing out Canelo sonning ggg telling him luck is for the mediocre suck andikk get the fukk out of here 
Won't happen. NY taxes purses. It will be Vegas
its a worth a shot to dream right? lol i just dont want it in fukking vegas
U live in NY? and if it's in Dallas..you paying for the good seats or would u care since they got that huge screen anyway?
Just don't pay 2,000 for seats..it may be a huge fight and all but shyt...sitting midway in 100k isn't that bad on a elevated level. At the WM 28 show in Miami...78,000 people...i had 400 dollar Riser seats which were like 6 rows from ringside and I'm tall anyway so it worked out just fine.
Just watched the canelo-Chavez jr fight and after seeing that production afterwards and seeing that the 3G fight was already done beforehand, it's obvious why Chavez he tried to box instead of brawling
At everybody acting confused at the gameplan.
At everybody acting confused at the gameplan.
GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
Bread on Canelo vs. GGG:
This is a tough fight to call for me. I think the “timing” of the fight favors Canelo. But I think GGG at his very best wins. I don’t know where GGG is… I don’t think he’s damaged or anything. But he may not be riding as high as he was circa Matthew Macklin. People act like he let Danny Jacobs stay in the fight. That’s not true. Jacobs was just a lot for him to handle.
The Chavez performance was no biggie to me. It gave Canelo a chance to move a big guy around. But Chavez is what he is. I don’t want to kick Chavez while he’s down. I really like him, he gives great quotes and I feel bad that he’s a Jr to the greatest Mexican fighter ever. But I studied Chavez years ago. I watched his fight with Luciano Cuello around 5 times. Chavez barely won that fight and if his name is not Chavez he probably loses it. A prominent matchmaker told me don’t fret Cuello because anybody that loses to Chavez should be no problem for an elite fighter.
The public has been waiting for Chavez to turn the corner. But the truth is he struggled in all of his elite level fights except the Andy Lee fight. I still don’t get what happened in that fight, because Lee can fight. But every other fight at the top level Chavez has struggled to a decision or he lost. He had to fight Bryan Vera twice at a catchweight to convincingly beat him.
Canelo is one of the 10 best fighters on the planet. Dominating Chavez is what every fighter of that ilk would do. The reason why this fight has closed in for me is because of history. The aging steady fighter who is not overwhelming athletically takes on the faster, younger, high riding fighter in his prime and he struggles. Bernard Hopkins loses twice to Jermaine Taylor. Say what you want about Taylor but he was tit for tat with the better Hopkins for 24 straight rounds. Antonio Cervantes vs Aaron Pryor. Genaro Hernandez vs Floyd Mayweather. Dwight Qawi vs Evander Holyfield. I can literally name 50 fights where a technically sound technician took on a young snappy kid and got beat. Heck Chavez Sr vs Oscar De La Hoya fits the exact bill.
I don’t think Canelo is the puncher he’s marketed as. He can crack but he’s not Julian Jackson. He’s a hard fast judge friendly puncher. He has snappy power. But His technique and speed are better than his actual power. If he catches GGG clean anything can happen but his power is not what concerns me for GGG. His ability to beat GGG to the punch and make him miss and pay is what should be concerning. He doesn’t have to ko GGG. All he has to do is win 7 out of 12 rounds.
I’m going to reserve my prediction of GGG vs Canelo until it gets closer to the fight. But I just get the feeling they are catching GGG at the right time. I also know it’s hard to win a decision vs Canelo. Very hard. He has received the benefit of doubt in every single round of his career. Because he will hit GGG it’s hard for me to believe he won’t get the benefit of the doubt again.
This is a tough fight to call for me. I think the “timing” of the fight favors Canelo. But I think GGG at his very best wins. I don’t know where GGG is… I don’t think he’s damaged or anything. But he may not be riding as high as he was circa Matthew Macklin. People act like he let Danny Jacobs stay in the fight. That’s not true. Jacobs was just a lot for him to handle.
The Chavez performance was no biggie to me. It gave Canelo a chance to move a big guy around. But Chavez is what he is. I don’t want to kick Chavez while he’s down. I really like him, he gives great quotes and I feel bad that he’s a Jr to the greatest Mexican fighter ever. But I studied Chavez years ago. I watched his fight with Luciano Cuello around 5 times. Chavez barely won that fight and if his name is not Chavez he probably loses it. A prominent matchmaker told me don’t fret Cuello because anybody that loses to Chavez should be no problem for an elite fighter.
The public has been waiting for Chavez to turn the corner. But the truth is he struggled in all of his elite level fights except the Andy Lee fight. I still don’t get what happened in that fight, because Lee can fight. But every other fight at the top level Chavez has struggled to a decision or he lost. He had to fight Bryan Vera twice at a catchweight to convincingly beat him.
Canelo is one of the 10 best fighters on the planet. Dominating Chavez is what every fighter of that ilk would do. The reason why this fight has closed in for me is because of history. The aging steady fighter who is not overwhelming athletically takes on the faster, younger, high riding fighter in his prime and he struggles. Bernard Hopkins loses twice to Jermaine Taylor. Say what you want about Taylor but he was tit for tat with the better Hopkins for 24 straight rounds. Antonio Cervantes vs Aaron Pryor. Genaro Hernandez vs Floyd Mayweather. Dwight Qawi vs Evander Holyfield. I can literally name 50 fights where a technically sound technician took on a young snappy kid and got beat. Heck Chavez Sr vs Oscar De La Hoya fits the exact bill.
I don’t think Canelo is the puncher he’s marketed as. He can crack but he’s not Julian Jackson. He’s a hard fast judge friendly puncher. He has snappy power. But His technique and speed are better than his actual power. If he catches GGG clean anything can happen but his power is not what concerns me for GGG. His ability to beat GGG to the punch and make him miss and pay is what should be concerning. He doesn’t have to ko GGG. All he has to do is win 7 out of 12 rounds.
I’m going to reserve my prediction of GGG vs Canelo until it gets closer to the fight. But I just get the feeling they are catching GGG at the right time. I also know it’s hard to win a decision vs Canelo. Very hard. He has received the benefit of doubt in every single round of his career. Because he will hit GGG it’s hard for me to believe he won’t get the benefit of the doubt again.
GGG looks to be a solid 2 inches taller.
Then it's up to GGG to knock him out to take the decision away from everyone. Just like it's Sergay's job to KO Ward if he doesn't want to cry and whine about decisions and being robbed. Roy Jones heard that Griffin boy run his mouth after he got DQ'd and destroyed that idiot in less than 3 minutes to prove a point. Just ultra fast power punches at angles no one has EVER SEEN. Does GGG have it in him to cut the ring off on Canelo and knock his ass off or will Canelo get slick and angle him like he did Cotto? Remains to be seen.
Breh ggg is a master at cutting off the ring, I believe canelo will attempt to back ggg up but that will end shortly once canelo feels the power. He will try and stand and box but the jab will start to bother him that he will begin to move around(get on his bike), this is when ggg will begin to cut off the ring and punish him.
That's the assumption...but Canelo has more angles than most. We'll see.
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