George Zimmerman is broke and gained 105 lbs.

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Yes, but did that mere moment ever materialize?




Here's the thing that's got me puzzled concerning self defense:

The autopsy reveals that Trayvon's knuckles were bruised or swollen. No bruising in the face or any other part of the body. It doesn't appear that Zimmerman physically attacked him first....BUT if he did, he didn't land a single punch. If Trayvon attacked first, then what right did he have to defend himself if he was the initial aggressor? Here's the tricky part: It's possible that Zimmerman did throw the first punch and horribly missed, in that case Trayvon did have the right to defend himself. Case closed. Then again, Trayvon stood about 6'2 and 150 lbs, not an easy target to miss?




I agree. Zimmerman's an idiot, delusional, etc, but I doubt he's a murderer.

:what: You sound like a fukking idiot B.
 

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George Zimmerman's legal team say he is out of money AGAIN and must raise at least $30,000 a month in donations - as lead attorney pushes to delay murder trial | Mail Online



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:what: so you saying even tho George followed this innocent kid around

for no reason, had a gun and
most likely flashed it at trayvon,
for the simple fact that he was black

in a non urban area,all this after a police officer told him not to follow this kid, that he wasn't the aggressor?
His reason for following Trayvon was that there had been a string of break-ins in the residential area where he volunteered for neighborhood watch.

It is not known whether Zimmerman actually brandished his weapon at Trayvon. But think about this... would you fight a person that flashed a gun at you while you weren't carrying one yourself? It seems unlikely that Zimmerman brandished his gun at Trayvon. And it seems very unlikely that Trayvon would fight an armed person. If Zimmerman did flash his gun at Trayvon... why didn't Trayvon hang up his phone and call the police and tell them someone just pointed a weapon at him while he was walking home, why did he stay on the line with his girlfriend? Seems so unlogical to me to be talking to anyone but the police when you've being 'hunted' down by an armed person you don't know.

I think that Zimmerman may have mistook Trayvon for the person or persons responsible for the residential break-ins.




What would you do if some racist dude with a gun started following you and chasing you down?( assuming your not a cac):ld:
I'd call the police and hide somewhere.




I'd punch that motherfukker right in his face too, in self defense, I'd fear for my life which is probly what trayvon was doing when he decided to defend his self
You're crazy. Why would you fight an armed person with nothing but your fists when you can just run in the opposite direction and hide and call the cops.




So if you initiate a conflict then lose the ensuing fight, you have the right to murder the guy who kicked your ass?
The autopsy revealed no bruising anywhere on Trayvon's body except 'injury below the knuckle'. Zimmerman, on the other hand, had his nose and the back of his head busted up. Is it possible that Trayvon punched Zimmerman first, took him down and proceeded to bash the back of his head against the pavement, and at that moment Zimmerman reacted by shooting Trayvon in self defense?

What if you didn't initiate a physical confrontation, but where on your back with injuries to your face and head, could you exercise your state given right of standing your ground?

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honestly, I feel sorry for him.
It doesn't matter that his grandfather was black or that he isn't 100% CAC. He was a racist, he hunted a young boy and killed him - without knowing about the school suspensions, without knowing anything other than he wanted to attack and play cop.


Black people are scary. Let's be honest. I'm being honest with myself here. They put fear into my heart. When I see them on the street, I am scared. When I am scared, I react with instinct and emotion--not logic and reason. That's why I feel empathetic.
You will end up killed one day because of this attitude. Not because the average black person is the way you describe, but because you're going to do something stupid to the wrong person.

I agree. Zimmerman's an idiot, delusional, etc, but I doubt he's a murderer.

He killed a boy for no reason, he attacked and hunted a boy because he hated black people, and he keeps lying about the story... so he is a murderer.


There are too many people that are attempting to give GZ a pass (because they low key fear black youth and despise black people). I bought a new hand gun last week from some rednecks at this redneck looking spot ( I go there because they know all about everything). The entire experience was ruined for me because some random craker as craker said... "well, you know the gun works because that's the one that kill Travon Martin!"

GZ's death or prison rape won't bring the black boy back to life, I just hope he is convicted and the laws that crakers are using to do sh1t like this in multiple states are re-examined.
 

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His reason

There was no need to these two individuals to ever speak or make contact. Aggression is demonstrated in multiple ways. If someone thinks another person is going to break in to their neighbors home - that person isn't going up to T M in a nice way and ask polite questions. GZ was the aggressor, no matter how everything played out. And what makes it worse is GZ's comments, language, and attitude about the situation; clearly racism caused this conflict and caused T M's death.

NTM, you do not have the right to kill a person with a gun because they are beating your ass, when you initiated contact in the first place. GZ had a choice... start some sh1t or not start some sh1t... he chose to start some sh1t and when it didn't go his way, he killed a boy.
 

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Trayvon may have attacked Zimmerman first, but i probably would have too if i was being followed and thought my life was in danger. I don't believe that he just stopped and decided to fight him for no reason.
 

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His reason for following Trayvon was that there had been a string of break-ins in the residential area where he volunteered for neighborhood watch.

It is not known whether Zimmerman actually brandished his weapon at Trayvon. But think about this... would you fight a person that flashed a gun at you while you weren't carrying one yourself? It seems unlikely that Zimmerman brandished his gun at Trayvon. And it seems very unlikely that Trayvon would fight an armed person. If Zimmerman did flash his gun at Trayvon... why didn't Trayvon hang up his phone and call the police and tell them someone just pointed a weapon at him while he was walking home, why did he stay on the line with his girlfriend? Seems so unlogical to me to be talking to anyone but the police when you've being 'hunted' down by an armed person you don't know.

I think that Zimmerman may have mistook Trayvon for the person or persons responsible for the residential break-ins.





I'd call the police and hide somewhere.





You're crazy. Why would you fight an armed person with nothing but your fists when you can just run in the opposite direction and hide and call the cops.





The autopsy revealed no bruising anywhere on Trayvon's body except 'injury below the knuckle'. Zimmerman, on the other hand, had his nose and the back of his head busted up. Is it possible that Trayvon punched Zimmerman first, took him down and proceeded to bash the back of his head against the pavement, and at that moment Zimmerman reacted by shooting Trayvon in self defense?

What if you didn't initiate a physical confrontation, but where on your back with injuries to your face and head, could you exercise your state given right of standing your ground?

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This mother fukker followed him with a gun, how was he suppose to know that the guys intent wasn't to kill him in the first place, how was he suppose to know the George wasn't gonna shoot him in the back as soon as he ran?

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The autopsy revealed no bruising anywhere on Trayvon's body except 'injury below the knuckle'. Zimmerman, on the other hand, had his nose and the back of his head busted up. Is it possible that Trayvon punched Zimmerman first, took him down and proceeded to bash the back of his head against the pavement, and at that moment Zimmerman reacted by shooting Trayvon in self defense?

What if you didn't initiate a physical confrontation, but where on your back with injuries to your face and head, could you exercise your state given right of standing your ground?

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:snoop: What do you keep talking about the fact that Trayvon didn't have any bruises for? He won the fight. You've never seen anyone whip someone's ass and not have any bruises or scratches before? Have you considered that Zimmerman is a shook bytch who called the cops 100 whatever times it was whenever he saw a "suspicious" (i.e. black) person in the neighborhood and initiated a fight and shot the guy because he took a beatdown?

We don't know who swung first. We do know what Zimmerman followed him against police instructions and got out of his car to follow him carrying a gun. They got in a fight, he lost, and he shot him. You can't just go around killing people because you lost a fight to them.
 

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His reason for following Trayvon was that there had been a string of break-ins in the residential area where he volunteered for neighborhood watch.

It is not known whether Zimmerman actually brandished his weapon at Trayvon. But think about this... would you fight a person that flashed a gun at you while you weren't carrying one yourself? It seems unlikely that Zimmerman brandished his gun at Trayvon. And it seems very unlikely that Trayvon would fight an armed person. If Zimmerman did flash his gun at Trayvon... why didn't Trayvon hang up his phone and call the police and tell them someone just pointed a weapon at him while he was walking home, why did he stay on the line with his girlfriend? Seems so unlogical to me to be talking to anyone but the police when you've being 'hunted' down by an armed person you don't know.

I think that Zimmerman may have mistook Trayvon for the person or persons responsible for the residential break-ins.





I'd call the police and hide somewhere.





You're crazy. Why would you fight an armed person with nothing but your fists when you can just run in the opposite direction and hide and call the cops.





The autopsy revealed no bruising anywhere on Trayvon's body except 'injury below the knuckle'. Zimmerman, on the other hand, had his nose and the back of his head busted up. Is it possible that Trayvon punched Zimmerman first, took him down and proceeded to bash the back of his head against the pavement, and at that moment Zimmerman reacted by shooting Trayvon in self defense?

What if you didn't initiate a physical confrontation, but where on your back with injuries to your face and head, could you exercise your state given right of standing your ground?

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there's plenty of people who will attack you if you pull a gun on them. not that i think that's what happened.

bottom line is he shouldnt have been following this kid, george zimmerman was the aggressor. even if he did get his ass whopped thats not justification in my mind to kill trayvon. gz had about 100 pounds on him too by the way. if you get beat up by someone who weighs 100 lbs less than you, youre a bytch :ufdup:

if people would learn how to fight, there would be less gun deaths. everybody wants to be tough without putting the work in.
 

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there's plenty of people who will attack you if you pull a gun on them. not that i think that's what happened.

bottom line is he shouldnt have been following this kid, george zimmerman was the aggressor. even if he did get his ass whopped thats not justification in my mind to kill trayvon. gz had about 100 pounds on him too by the way. if you get beat up by someone who weighs 100 lbs less than you, youre a bytch :ufdup:

if people would learn how to fight, there would be less gun deaths. everybody wants to be tough without putting the work in.

If I had to guess what happened, Trayvon was going in the direction of his house. Zimmerman kept following him, and Trayvon confronted him. I believe Trayvon was provoked by Zimmerman's racial profiling and was heated and had reasonable fear of bodily harm. If Trayvon killed Zimmerman, Trayvon would have not been charged with a crime because Zimmerman had a gun on his waist and was the aggressor.

These same white folks who are defending Zimmerman, know damn well if they was in Trayvon's shoes they would have be annoyed by him following him. I would have asked Zimmerman wants his problem? If he walked towards me like he bad, I have to assume that I should shoot first ask questions last, cause the gun rights advocates aint for all that mano-a-mano.
 

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If I had to guess what happened, Trayvon was going in the direction of his house. Zimmerman kept following him, and Trayvon confronted him. I believe Trayvon was provoked by Zimmerman's racial profiling and was heated and had reasonable fear of bodily harm. If Trayvon killed Zimmerman, Trayvon would have not been charged with a crime because Zimmerman had a gun on his waist and was the aggressor.

These same white folks who are defending Zimmerman, know damn well if they was in Trayvon's shoes they would have be annoyed by him following him. I would have asked Zimmerman wants his problem? If he walked towards me like he bad, I have to assume that I should shoot first ask questions last, cause the gun rights advocates aint for all that mano-a-mano.

Yeah, thats the only way I see it going down. Martin probably confronted him on some :wtf: ish. Zimmerman maybe said somethin slick, or at least didn't immediately turn away so Martin started using his fists.

I disagree that Trayvon wouldn't have been charged tho. If Zimmerman was dead, I doubt most people would believe that Trayvon was justified in beating him to death .... hell, I doubt most people would believe Zimmerman was stalking him that night. Martin would have been arrested that night, and tried as an adult, as per usual. He wouldn't get the benefit of the doubt from the police.
 

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No one knows what happened except for two people. One is dead and one is in court.

The only thing you can do is say to yourself "Who initiated the confrontation?" and "Was it avoidable?".
 
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