GEORGE LUCAS: "Disney didn't use my story for Episode VII, they made up their own"

[wire28]

Aside from Padme's lame reason for dying, I think the stories in themselves for the prequels were fine. Lucas' sorry directing and dialouge brought them down. He had good actors looking like wood figurines.

I don't know why he would sell to Disney without a clause saying he would still be the primary writer, but

yeah you know what i think this is a good point. the main fault in the prequels were the corny diagloue, but he did drop the ball story wise but not as much as its made out to be.

i think general G was horribly mishandled also. he was just thrown in there. and dont even get me started on how they wasted maul and dooku

shyt, nevermind i think maybe this does fall on lucas

I don't why people hate on the prequels, Episode 3 was good.

we need a sad obi wan smiley

but you were the chosen one

 

[Richard Wright]

He sold it fukk all the whining bet he cashed that damn check with no problem

He donated all of the money to charity

 

[beenz]

JJ abrams resurrected the star trek franchise. I have total confidence in him.

 

[Makavalli]

He donated all of the money to charity

Nikka hit one of them dust blunts

 

[NaijaProdigy Redux]

I can't even watch the prequels without being disgusted so I'm fine with that.

They just get worse the older I get

 

[itsyoung!!]

Sell your movie franchise for 4 billion dollars and still complain brehs.

Not about to feel sorry for a billionaire


And let's act like he isn't still getting a cut from all this shyt

He sold it fukk all the whining bet he cashed that damn check with no problem

not sure if anyone said it already, but didnt he give 100% of the 4 billion from Disney to charity ?


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/02/george-lucas-donate-4-billion_n_2067145.html

100% of the 4 billion was gave away

not saying hes still not rich as fukk, but cant hate on that either.. not too sure I could give away $4 million let alone $4 billion regardless how rich I was

 

[Rapmastermind]

You act like George Lucas had the whole story planned out from the beginning. Dude was making it up as he went along and there's proof of that all the way down to the final cut.

Now in this day and age its all about franchises. And Disney KNOWS FRANCHISES WAY BETTER THAN GEORGE LUCAS EVER WILL.

George Lucas can create a lot of good ideas, but he can't create a long cohesive story out of them.

Actually George did have the whole story planned out. 3 Trilogies and 3 Spin Offs. Here are his original notes from the late 70's:

Just do the Thrawn Trilogy

This was my point. We were all under the impression from the beginning of the sale to Disney that they were following George's outlines for 7, 8, 9. Then George comes out and said they didn't follow his story. Well if you weren't going to follow the Creator's Story anyway. Then why not adapt the greatest EU series to the Screen? Since they made up their own story anyway:

 

[Won Won]

Actually George did have the whole story planned out.

That's why Luke was making out with his "sister" in ANH

 

[Airtrack360]

Actually George did have the whole story planned out. 3 Trilogies and 3 Spin Offs. Here are his original notes from the late 70's:

This was my point. We were all under the impression from the beginning of the sale to Disney that they were following George's outlines for 7, 8, 9. Then George comes out and said they didn't follow his story. Well if you weren't going to follow the Creator's Story anyway. Then why not adapt the greatest EU series to the Screen? Since they made up their own story anyway:

Not true Not true Not true...

I don't know where your getting this information but its false.

The Star Wars George Lucas had originally envisioned in his mind was nothing like the star wars we see today (thank god).

How you gonna post a screenshot of a notebook that's 80% blank with only a few scribbles of "Luke, Ben K, Darth Vader, and Robots" and then claim "He had the whole story planned out."

Did you see the behind the scenes of the prequels??? Dude was making shyt up on set that would affect the whole damn story moving forward or wouldn't line up with what the originals had already established. Dude gave no fukks about a coherent story and continuity.

Darth Vader wasn't even originally suppose to be Luke's father and probably wouldn't of been if the original writer hadn't passed away before Return of the Jedi.

Darth Vader was not Luke's father in A New Hope. George made that shyt up in the second draft of Empire Strikes Back.

You can't be making on the fly changes like that in a franchise

 

[Rapmastermind]

That's why Luke was making out with his "sister" in ANH

LOL so true but of course things change during the production of the movies. But George originally planned 12 movies. The issue was after "Jedi" in 83, he basically didn't want to direct anymore. So he let other writers do the "Extended Universe". Then he went and did the Prequel when he came out of retirement. He has the basic plan for the whole Saga since the Late 70's. He broke them into Saga's:

Saga I: The Rise of Obi Won and Fall of Anakin Skywalker
Saga II: Adventures of Luke Skywalker
Saga III: Passing of the Torch To the Next Generation

That was his basic outline. It seems based on the teaser they are following it but we will see.

 

[Rapmastermind]

Not true Not true Not true...

I don't know where your getting this information but its false.

The Star Wars George Lucas had originally envisioned in his mind was nothing like the star wars we see today (thank god).

How you gonna post a screenshot of a notebook that's 80% blank with only a few scribbles of "Luke, Ben K, Darth Vader, and Robots" and then claim "He had the whole story planned out."

Did you see the behind the scenes of the prequels??? Dude was making shyt up on set that would affect the whole damn story moving forward or wouldn't line up with what the originals had already established. Dude gave no fukks about a coherent story and continuity.

Darth Vader wasn't even originally suppose to be Luke's father and probably wouldn't of been if the original writer hadn't passed away before Return of the Jedi.

Darth Vader was not Luke's father in A New Hope. George made that shyt up in the second draft of Empire Strikes Back.

You can't be making on the fly changes like that in a franchise

You can have a basic outline of a story planed out without the particulars of every thing. Just the basic concept. This is what Screenwriters do. They breakdown their story in outlines and treatments before it's actually fully completed. He had 3 Trilogies outlined, he even said, "I went to Middle Chapter cause that was more exciting the early chapters when Anakin was younger" The Sequel Trilogy is the last Chapter or Saga he was planning before he retired and sold to Disney. Because he's been talking about since the original trilogy. Even Mark Hamil told him that "George told me about the Sequel Trilogy in the 80's". Here's the Video of Mark Hamil in 1983 talking about Episode VII and what George told him:




The photo I posted was from Lucas's Biographer. He had 12 movies planned but of course the story went through changes as he started to make the movies. This Video is proof that Lucas was thinking of VII, VIII and IX YEARS ago.

 

[Dat Bruh Bill]

at Hayden Christensen being a good actor. It was awful outside of his scene with Padme and Obi on Mustafar.

Ewan MacGregor and Ian McDiarmed acted their asses off in the prequels even with that terrible script so I dont want to hear the excuses for Hayden

 

[Rapmastermind]

George Lucas Goes in on Hollywood Blockbusters calling them "A Stupid Circus with No Substance":

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/g...-are-too-much-circus-no-substance-1201419058/



(Legendary Critic Leonard Maltin interviews George Lucas and Robert Redford about their Life and them being Legends of Independent Cinema. Starts at 30 minutes)


Damn, George been going in lately. Something must of pissed him off cause this is the most vocal he's been in a while. In George's defense, a lot of people in this thread has said "He's complaining, he got 4 Billion". But the reality is George was promoting his film "Strange Magic" which was for Disney and people and reporters kept changing the subject and asking about "The Force Awakens". It seemed like he finally had enough and told the truth about them not using his story. So that's what happen, he wasn't complaining. Also Lucas did sell his company and the 7,8.9 Episode Treatments. So they were in the contract. I doubt Lucas will sue cause he moved on but his treatments were in the original contract. Disney will probably say, "They will be used in later movies" if they didn't use them here.

 

[Airtrack360]

You can have a basic outline of a story planed out without the particulars of every thing. Just the basic concept. This is what Screenwriters do. They breakdown their story in outlines and treatments before it's actually fully completed. He had 3 Trilogies outlined, he even said, "I went to Middle Chapter cause that was more exciting the early chapters when Anakin was younger" The Sequel Trilogy is the last Chapter or Saga he was planning before he retired and sold to Disney. Because he's been talking about since the original trilogy. Even Mark Hamil told him that "George told me about the Sequel Trilogy in the 80's". Here's the Video of Mark Hamil in 1983 talking about Episode VII and what George told him:




The photo I posted was from Lucas's Biographer. He had 12 movies planned but of course the story went through changes as he started to make the movies. This Video is proof that Lucas was thinking of VII, VIII and IX YEARS ago.

George was planning on making a lot of movies, even if the story needed that many to be told or not. I doesn't matter if George had a outline of 20 different episodes. It doesn't change the fact that he was making up major and minor plot points as he went along and you CAN NOT have that in a successful movie franchise nowadays and Disney knows this.

Why follow an outline from a guy who has a track record of changing things up at the last minute. It leads people to believe that he doesn't have a lot of confidence in his writing and the direction its going in.

Take it with a grain of salt but GL has also been very inconsistent in explaining how he came about certain things and how they developed.

"There's also the appeal to the public of it all having been planned out, merely waiting to be revealed. That each film is a part of an epic saga, that the rest of the story 'really' exists. Instead of just a series of sci-fi films, it becomes something far more mythological. Simple spin, which also makes following the story that much more fun."

"I don't think there's anything wrong with what GL has done, it's not a cynical or sleazy marketing ploy, it comes across as a genuine effort to make the SW Saga something along the lines of Tolkien's tales of Middle Earth. I just think he's handled it somewhat clumsily by claiming that "it was like that all along" in a very literal way, as opposed to Tolkien's clever way of alternating between claiming that the tales were real events he was researching and explaining how he actually wrote them."

 

[joeychizzle]

@Melbournelad
what's your take on this??

and smh they made r2d2 a fukking minnie mouse in that pic