George Lucas Criticizes New Star Wars Films (Article)

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I wish Lucas would just say fukk it and lay out his original vision for the new trilogy in some blog post or some shyt. Ain't like it's canon anyway, though it would be in my mind seeing it's coming from the creator himself.

And he got a point, I'm not knocking TFA it was a good movie but JJ pretty much did what Puff Daddy did in the 90s and take a sample, loop it, and add fresh faces to the track while being awll in the promotion.


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Yup, after the hype dies down folks are going to realize its just :manny:
 

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well empire was coming off the biggest film phenomenon in history, and it would have been real easy to just make another silly adventure in the same vein of ANH and just do the same thing again like hangover 2 did. instead empire took a sharp left and redefined what the franchise could be capable of.
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Out of all of the Star Wars movie not including TFA, Lucas had the least involvement with The Empire Strikes Back. And it shows big time :sas2:
 

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But the fans won't be happy :(

Those same fans are still going to go see it anyway. Star wars has the most loyal fan base out of anything.

If the millennium falcon had a cameo then got blown up and han solo and chewy reacted to it that would've been a dope scene and opened the door for a new ship.
 

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If you really sit back and think on it TFA basically makes the OG trilogy a failure. Makes the efforts of Luke, leia and Han all for not. I mean just 30 years later the universe is completely fukked ho again. Starkiller base has already did more damage than and deathstar ever. Most likely more casualities ever. TFA just makes them all seem like failures and losers the quality of there achievements.

I was about to disagree with this, but its pretty much true. Tarkin in the original Star Wars said that he build the Death Star to replace the old senate. Then Vader days that the Death Star is still insignificant compared to the Force. In the new movie, the new "Tarkin" blew the senate planet away. So Tarkin's goal was achieved, and it didn't even involve the Force. Just technology. In fact, the Dark Side of the force was pretty much insignificant in this movie.

Lucas basically said see this white supremacy agenda that Disney is trying to push I can recognize that and quite frankly I don't want to be a part of that whatsoever. I understand that a white and Asian audiences are craving for anti melanin content I know that is how the USA operates on anti melanated people but I'm not going to be a part of it you can ruin the story to spite black people but my name is not on that you understand me?

In this context, "White Slavers" means pimps. He's saying he sold his child to be exploited.
 

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He's right in a sense. You have give Lucas credit for trying to tell a different story, even though the execution was way off.

You're telling me with all the possibilities and vastness of the Star Wars universe, a retread of ANH was all Disney could come up with?:francis:
Yep. And the fan boys ate it up.
 

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Revenge of the Sith is absolutely at the very least on par with the Originals. If it had been executed a little better and had a couple things different it would easily be the best so far.


NO way its on par with the 4-5-6...

I have it below and ahead of part 1-2...but to say its just as good is not true.
Only thing i really liked about it was finally seeing Yoda vs Palps and grievous...

Alot of the movie felt rushed to me...they didnt set up the original trilogy that well...
 

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George Lucas Quips He Sold 'Star Wars' to "White Slavers"; Criticizes "Retro" Tone of New Film


Lucas went on to tell Rose he has accepted that the franchise is now in other hands, then he somewhat criticized the latest installment, The Force Awakens.


"They wanted to do a retro movie. I don't like that. Every movie, I worked very hard to make them different," Lucas told Rose. "I made them completely different -- different planets, different spaceships to make it new."


Before the deal came about, Lucas said he planned on writing and directing the sequels to his original trilogy. Then the sale occurred. Disney was not interested in his ideas for the follow-ups, so he stayed away from the production of Force Awakens, he said.

"They weren’t that keen to have me involved anyway, but if I get in there, I’m just going to cause trouble, because they’re not going to do what I want them to do. And I don’t have the control to do that anymore, and all I would do is muck everything up,” he said. “And so I said, ‘OK, I will go my way, and I’ll let them go their way.’”



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Why u sell it then? Once you take there money you have no influence.
 

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I wish he had of finished his thought on white slavers. Considering his wife, and the Tusgegee Airmen film, and now articulating a half finished thought on white slavers........., I'm curious. I refuse to that sh!t. The title shoud be, Star Wars : A New Mary Sue & the Same ol Tobey.
 

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George is 100% right. JJ and company brought nothing new to the table. Everything in the the movie can be traced to Lucas and the EU Books. Was the movie good? Yes but creatively JJ is not on George Lucas level as a storyteller or filmmaker. "Revenge of the Sith" has so many fantastic new planets and enviroments. All the new so called "Planets" in Episode VII looked like the original trilogy just with new names. Disney played it way safe and it worked but people are so wrong about what George was trying to do. He wasn't trying to make the same movie over and over again. After a couple of weeks I'd agrue "Episode VII" isn't even better than "Revenge of the Sith". I'm kinda of happy JJ isn't coming back because he's goal was clearly to remix the original trilogy. With that said, the movie will introduced a new generation to Star Wars so hopefully they go back and watch the OG's and the Prequels. The Force Awakens is not better than "A New Hope" so the in the end JJ did not advance on what George already created.
 

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NO way its on par with the 4-5-6...

I have it below and ahead of part 1-2...but to say its just as good is not true.
Only thing i really liked about it was finally seeing Yoda vs Palps and grievous...

Alot of the movie felt rushed to me...they didnt set up the original trilogy that well...
It's a subjective opinion, what do you means it's "not true"? :heh:
 

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George is 100% right. JJ and company brought nothing new to the table. Everything in the the movie can be traced to Lucas and the EU Books. Was the movie good? Yes but creatively JJ is not on George Lucas level as a storyteller or filmmaker. "Revenge of the Sith" has so many fantastic new planets and enviroments. All the new so called "Planets" in Episode VII looked like the original trilogy just with new names. Disney played it way safe and it worked but people are so wrong about what George was trying to do. He wasn't trying to make the same movie over and over again. After a couple of weeks I'd agrue "Episode VII" isn't even better than "Revenge of the Sith". I'm kinda of happy JJ isn't coming back because he's goal was clearly to remix the original trilogy. With that said, the movie will introduced a new generation to Star Wars so hopefully they go back and watch the OG's and the Prequels. The Force Awakens is not better than "A New Hope" so the in the end JJ did not advance on what George already created.

I agree with everything except this. TV shows like "True Detective" season one and "The Knick" show that serialized shows/movies are better when there's one consistent vision behind them. I would prefer it if JJ "owned" the state he left the universe in. Too many different voices behind it and it really turns into just fan fiction.

I think I would actually have a higher opinion of TFA if the exact same plot were expanded out as a cable or Netflix series, rather than as an "Episode VI" sequel. That roman numeral in the title gave it a lot to live up to.
 

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What cause. Think about every character he made who was black or came off as black.

:camby:

fukk him.
He's trying to build affordable housing for low-income people in his neighborhood.
A few years ago, director George Lucas had planned to sell some of his land to a developer to build affordable housing for low-income residents of his county. This worried some of the local residents, who were concerned about what the possible consequences would be to the wealthy community.

According to a Washington Post article, the project lost its financial backing in 2013. Two years later, Lucas has decided to fund the 224-unit development himself. Spread over 52 acres, it was estimated that it would cost $120 to $150 million in 2013, and plans included a community center, pool and senior residences.

“We’ve got enough millionaires here,” the paper quoted Lucas saying. “What we need is some houses for regular working people.”

The project is still in the proposal stage, but if approved, it could be completed by 2019.
George Lucas To Build Affordable Housing - Look to the Stars
 

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Lucas is understandably salty as fukk but I can also understand it. The situation must be sad and confusing for him. He's sort of a father figure to a whole generation of people that grew up on the originals and loved him, and he watched his ideas gain a life of their own and become a part of the world's pop culture. But now he's at a point where those ideas are the world's, but no longer his. he probably felt comfortable selling LucasFilm also thinking that his ideas would be received and that he would still be able to participate in his own creation and his own universe/sandbox. Once they told him to :camby:

I'm sure it hurts really bad. Especially to see how successful and critically praised this new movie is after his last 3 contributions were almost universally shyt on. I'm sure he's jealous and angry. At the same time, despite how much the prequels are basically unwatchable (IMHO), I do believe he thought he was trying some original ideas, however lazy or lame-brained they were. So he's seeing that they basically re-did A New Hope and it's an easy point where he can call them lazy or creative.

But he's still wrong. I mean yes, A Force Awakens did have a lot of callbacks and familiar beats, arguably too many, but most of us agree it sets the stage well for a new cinematic universe of Star Wars films, and that the franchise is in much better hands without his ideas.

You go back and hear stories of how Lucas had so many people to check him on the old films that weren't yes men, and stories of how he wanted Han Solo to be a dirty orphan, or Boba Fett would be Luke and Leia's uncle, making Fett and Vader brothers. Or even in the prequels that Darth Maul was going to look like this
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Goofy shyt like that, and then you see his awful prequels where he had all yes men, and you start to wonder just how much better the originals were because other people besides Lucas were involved.


I also heard stories of how empire strikes back someone else had heavy input on it, that's why it was so dark and menacing it wasnt that cute and cuddly shyt....
 
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