Genetic evidence suggests European migrants may have influenced the origins of India's caste system

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The genes being more similar to Europe don't mean that Europeans were the ones who came in. The modern consensus, using actual genetic evidence is that there was a period of great mixture between peoples, and only after the mixing did the rigid separation by caste begin somehow, and people started only reproducing within caste.
Look at what you wrote. There was a period of mixing which was for THOUSANDS OF YEARS, and the all of a sudden things stopped. This coincides with the time of northern india being invaded by eurpeons and the caste system starting This is why the test were done, to see if this was true, and it turns out it was. How hard is it fot yall to understand this?
 
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I'm glad you made this thread, I'll post the response to your post in the other thread here:

I made a little joke about the nudred making me the 2014 buddha, showed a picture of buddha with old school nudred style, and i guess it hurt some people feeling seeing buddha with nikka hair! He took it there so i had ti shut him down. My bad man.

Na, actually what happened was I came in here to show my man the video in the OP and happened to see dude ask if that was a cap and told him that it was. then you start tagging me and the other dude like you're really in here dropping gems :mjlol:

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Again, the story was told to appease the kings and keep the system going, you aren't going to find these things out from reading the text that was allowed to be put into mass production!

Evidence?

I never said anything about African but there is achance he was of the original Asian stock who did have hair like blacks, and looked like what we call the bushmen of south Africa.

Are you talking about Australoids? Because they have straight hair. If you are talking about those Andaman islanders that's a completely different population, far, far removed from the society that the Buddha hailed from.

, how you like that genetic study showing the caste system is race based? Want to ignore that too huh?

And why do you keep repeating what I a!ready posted to make it like youre correcting me?

Why would I ignore that study you posted when I've posted it myself before on this site in other discussions?

That study actually proves that Indians are more alike than they are different, regardless of caste, but higher caste Indians (mainly brahmins) tend to be endogamous and less likely to mix with others....so they will cluster together far more often. Lower caste Indians tend to mix more freely.

You wouldn't be able to tell someones caste by looking at them because not even an Indian can do that.....caste is identified by surname first and foremost, and sometimes profession in more traditional Indian communities.
 

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Look at what you wrote. There was a period of mixing which was for THOUSANDS OF YEARS, and the all of a sudden things stopped. This coincides with the time of northern india being invaded, and the caste system starting This is why the test were done, to see if this was true, and it turns out it was. How hard is it fot yall to understand this?

Yeah, Brahmins especially haven't mixed for thousands of years....yet there are brahmins that are darker than Akon. How do you account for that?
 

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I'm glad you made this thread, I'll post the response to your post in the other thread here:



Na, actually what happened was I came in here to show my man the video in the OP and happened to see dude ask if that was a cap and told him that it was. then you start tagging me and the other dude like you're really in here dropping gems :mjlol:



Evidence?



Are you talking about Australoids? Because they have straight hair. If you are talking about those Andaman islanders that's a completely different population, far, far removed from the society that the Buddha hailed from.



Why would I ignore that study you posted when I've posted it myself before on this site in other discussions?

That study actually proves that Indians are more alike than they are different, regardless of caste, but higher caste Indians (mainly brahmins) tend to be endogamous and less likely to mix with others....so they will cluster together far more often. Lower caste Indians tend to mix more freely.

You wouldn't be able to tell someones caste by looking at them because not even an Indian can do that.....caste is identified by surname first and foremost, and sometimes profession in more traditional Indian communities.
Everything you post is a twist on my words when I write in plain terms which means you are disingenuous. I explained how i felt about buddha, not on this topic. Whats sad is you are speaking buddha like there is proof he even existed and if he did that all the accounts of him are the same. This religious belief you have is the reason why you just cant hear what others are saying when it goes against what you believe. And im talking about the original southern asians who look like the bushmen of south africa which I ALREADY WROTE. Asians with Kinky hair. There are even pictures of the last of the asians before they became extinct.

Again you are seeing what you want because the study clearly states there are genetic differences between the high and lower caste, and it deals with the origins of this. You keep talking about how people look and i keep saying its india, you cant make a drastic change like that but you can see a difference for the MAJORITY, but you keep bringing the point up.

It is crazy how people make up their minds and ignore simple shyt in their face. If we mention history you claim its false, if we mention what we see, you claim it goes deeper then that, now when we mention dna, you say its some bullshyt. WTF?. Or you twist it to make it look like its in agreememt with what you're sayign when it clearly isn't. Damn, damn, damn. Thank god there are actual scientists who know how to read what they are seeing, and see what I see or I would think Im crazy!.
 
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Yeah, Brahmins especially haven't mixed for thousands of years....yet there are brahmins that are darker than Akon. How do you account for that?
Its called being in india:mjlol: You will have different mixtures due to the heat and the sun but there will still be traits that seperate the majority due to playing the game of seclusion and inclusion.
 
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Its called being in india:mjlol: You will have different mixtures due to the heat and the sun but there will still be traits that seperate due to playing the gamd of seclusion and inclusion.

Ok, so in that other thread you accused me ignoring what's right in front of me, right? So check this video, this is an authentic, old school style brahmin thread initiation:



go to 4:18. The barber is low-caste and isn't even allowed in the other room with all the brahmins. Does he look different from everybody else though?

now go to 7:19 and peep how dark the brahmin kid on the right is.

Please explain.
 

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But the roots of the system date back to longer than 1000 ,or 1200 bce.

Its one of the most mixed places on earth and was settled by black people.

The top class are just decedent of the spiritual leaders, thinkers, philosophical nikkas, and scientists and politicians. Each group held a purpose in society which is why you can never move up. Some groups are what used to be a warrior class, one was travelers traders, others were workers servants.... and those people are still stuck in the modern equivalent of those roles unless they immigrant somewhere else. Its the toughest spot in our galaxy to go from slum nikka to ceo.

White supremacy affected Africa, Americas, and asia...... so thats why it affected the mentality of some Indians. But because gods in India used to be black and blue and most of the original Brahmins were basically African so some of the darkers ones r at the top and some if the untouchables are black too.

India influenced European culture and it was barely the other way around before they were occupied by Britain
 

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Ok, so in that other thread you accused me ignoring what's right in front of me, right? So check this video, this is an authentic, old school style brahmin thread initiation:



go to 4:18. The barber is low-caste and isn't even allowed in the other room with all the brahmins. Does he look different from everybody else though?

now go to 7:19 and peep how dark the brahmin kid on the right is.

Please explain.

AGAIN, you will have exceptions but, still the majority of the people in the video have that upper caste look. Why do you keep speaking on skin color? Im speaking on skin color and facial structure. AGAIN, FOR THE MAJORITY. The fact that you had only but TWO people to pick out shows there's a problem.

Btw, that video reminded me of some Jim Crow shyt with the babrer not being allowed to enter the house.
 

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But the roots of the system date back to longer than 1000 ,or 1200 bce.

Its one of the most mixed places on earth and was settled by black people.

The top class are just decedent of the spiritual leaders, thinkers, philosophical nikkas, and scientists and politicians. Each group held a purpose in society which is why you can never move up. Some groups are what used to be a warrior class, one was travelers traders, others were workers servants.... and those people are still stuck in the modern equivalent of those roles unless they immigrant somewhere else. Its the toughest spot in our galaxy to go from slum nikka to ceo.

White supremacy affected Africa, Americas, and asia...... so thats why it affected the mentality of some Indians. But because gods in India used to be black and blue and most of the original Brahmins were basically African so some of the darkers ones r at the top and some if the untouchables are black too.

India influenced European culture and it was barely the other way around before they were occupied by Britain
Show me where it goes bakc further then 2,000 years ago because this is the first time I heard this? It is well known that indians mixed before this time. This si why the study was done to prove if what some saw in history was correct.
 

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Show me where it goes bakc further then 2,000 years ago because this is the first time I heard this?
Started with the jati like 4k years ago... by the time bce was over these nikkas were on full blown caste like nothing on earth....

There are more than enough Indians on this board to educate you. But I work w like 40 various Indian dudes over the last four years and....
I don't know them all.... but u can tell who comes from what type of people...and who is lucky as fukk to be in America... I always can guess and im never wrong.
 

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AN albino Indian isnt far from a cac.

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Uncle Crak just solved the origins of white people. :whoo:
 

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Started with the jati like 4k years ago... by the time bce was over these nikkas were on full blown caste like nothing on earth...
There are more than enough Indians on this board to educate you. But I work w like 40 various Indian dudes over the last four years and....
I don't know them all.... but u can tell who comes from what type of people...and who is lucky as fukk to be in America... I always can guess and im never wrong.


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My man, the Jati is just a term to describe what you are born into, it doesn't necessarily mean you are stuck there. It's like saying I was born in an area with middle class or lower class people. That is different from the caste system we are referring to.

As far as Indians knowing their history, you know that means nothing. They are going by what they were told, not necessarily the truth. How many Americans know the true history of this place, and it's only over 220 years old. India history goes back to around 7500 BC to 6200 BC. The only people who will know the truth are people who study this stuff.

Here's an article dealing with how old India is, and it's 2,000 years older then previously thought

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/...us-civilization-2000-years-old-archaeologists
“When Bhirrana [Rajasthan] was excavated, from 2003 to 2006, we [recovered artifacts that provided] 19 radiometric dates,” said Dikshyt, who was until recently joint director general of the Archaeological Society of India. “Out of these 19 dates, six dates are from the early levels, and the time bracket is forming from 7500 BC to 6200 BC.”

Since the early excavations at Harappa and Mohenjodaro, in what is today Pakistan, the Indus Civilization has been considered among the world's most ancient civilizations — along with Egypt and Mesopotamia (in what is today Iraq)
 

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AGAIN, you will have exceptions but, still the majority of the people in the video have that upper caste look. Why do you keep speaking on skin color? Im speaking on skin color and facial structure. AGAIN, FOR THE MAJORITY. The fact that you had only but TWO people to pick out shows there's a problem.

Btw, that video reminded me of some Jim Crow shyt with the babrer not being allowed to enter the house.

lol @ "upper caste look"

Here's a low-caste Indian, the Indian PM.

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Here are some Brahmin kids:

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A brahmin can look like anything, and so can an untouchable. Facts.
 

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lol @ "upper caste look"

Here's a low-caste Indian, the Indian PM.

M_Id_423075_Modi.jpg


Here are some Brahmin kids:

600512.jpg


A brahmin can look like anything, and so can an untouchable. Facts.
AGAIN. AGAIN. AGAIN. It is INDIA, you will have mixtures but the MAJORITY WILL HAVE THE SAME TRAITS. GOD DAMN.

Now, lets show pictures my way:
Brahmin(UPPER CASTE)
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Untouchable(LOWER CASTE)
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SEE A GOD DAMN DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU POST THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE!
 
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AGAIN. AGAIN. AGAIN. It is INDIA, your will have mixtures but the MAJORITY WILL HAVE THE SAME TRAITS. GOD DAMN.

:mjlol: and you say this so confidently based on what? mixtures of what? We've already established that brahmins DON'T MIX. So where are all these variations in appearance coming fromif caste is based on race?

So if if I put 20 random Indians in front of you're saying you could accurately guess each ones caste based on appearance alone?
 
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