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"American has gotten more liberal since fall of soviet union " then proceeded to say " abortion was taken down due to trump". Is it we have gotten more liberal or we have gotten more conservative??? to point we elected trump which one is it? You can't have it both ways

So you agree we aren't on a liberal trajectory since the fall of the soviet thanks.
It’s not hard to understand that America was more liberal from 1991 to 2016 than it was from 1950 to 1991

Ironically MAGA is about bringing America back to Cold War era culture you fukking dunce
 

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It’s not hard to understand that America was more liberal from 1991 to 2016 than it was from 1950 to 1991
You have it backwards what you mean is:

It's not hard to understand that america had more liberal movments from 1950-1991 based on laws versus 1991 to 2016 where we now have political movements to erase those laws built during that era. But hey if you don't think we're regressing as a country not sure what to help you with :hubie:
 

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You have it backwards what you mean is:

It's not hard to understand that america had more liberal movments from 1950-1991 based on laws versus 1991 to 2016 where we now have political movements to erase those laws built during that era. But hey if you don't think we're regressing as a country not sure what to help you with :hubie:
And you think that is a result of the cold war, and it's aubsequent end.

I still don't see the correlation. America didn't get more liberal because Russia.

Liberal movement at the time were even called communist not so?
 

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White America could no longer ignore the courts, injustice, protests, and violence that was engulfing the country.

:laff: at you thinking white smerida gives a fukk about courts or injustice protest. In the 60s white America had no choice but to succumb to the civil rights movement because at the time we were pretending to be the geopolitical superpower darling when it comes to civil rights against the other communist counties. White people didn't just wake up and decide that they weren't racist it was by design

 

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You have it backwards what you mean is:

It's not hard to understand that america had more liberal movments from 1950-1991 based on laws versus 1991 to 2016 where we now have political movements to erase those laws built during that era. But hey if you don't think we're regressing as a country not sure what to help you with :hubie:
The internet warped your mind. You literally think leave it to beaver America was more liberal than an era that is okay with children being LGBT.

This is why MAGA wins, online only progressives mentally masturbate themselves into stupidity whereas MAGA appeals to the stupidity that masquerades as common sense.

At least with MAGA their rhetoric is simple, with online progressives it’s stupid masquerading as intellectual elitism that turns off everyone who isn’t bought into the echo chamber
 

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And you think that is a result of the cold war, and it's aubsequent end.

Result of america having to prove it was better than USSR on the world stage, we no longer govern like that.
I still don't see the correlation. America didn't get more liberal because Russia.

Liberal movement at the time were even called communist not so?
We got more liberal due to our enemies and needing to prove we were different then them from a geopolitical perspective. It's additionally why we no longer care about the civil rights of our allies home countries, 25 years ago people would have been disgusted at how close we're with Saudi Arabia from a human rights perspective. America hegemony no longer pretends to behave in the manor of being the world's civil rights police officer.
 

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The internet warped your mind. You literally think leave it to beaver America was more liberal than an era that is okay with children being LGBT.

Either you're flat out stupid, disingenuous or lack reading comprehension skills. Outside of abolishing slavery more civil rights progress was done during that period then any period during the life of this country. In the last 25 years this country has moved towards REMOVING CIVIL rights when it comes to individuals.
This is why MAGA wins, online only progressives mentally masturbate themselves into stupidity whereas MAGA appeals to the stupidity that masquerades as common sense.

You just saying anything now
At least with MAGA their rhetoric is simple, with online progressives it’s stupid masquerading as intellectual elitism that turns off everyone who isn’t bought into the echo chamber
Nothing to do with progressive, I'm stuck between you being flat out stupid or disingenuous.
 

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White America could no longer ignore the courts, injustice, protests, and violence that was engulfing the country. It wasn't the "Elites" or the notion of what 1950's/60's Americans understood and felt about the fukking USSR or CHINA(are you fukking kidding me?).

:laff:

what planet are you from


idk who needs to hear this but your grandparents/great grandparents weren't sitting around the dinner table weighing the civl liberties of the USSR and CCP.
:dead:

him and smooth mind are taking off the mask it just is a matter of what Russia/china is paying them at this point
 

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Result of america having to prove it was better than USSR on the world stage, we no longer govern like that.

We got more liberal due to our enemies and needing to prove we were different then them from a geopolitical perspective. It's additionally why we no longer care about the civil rights of our allies home countries, 25 years ago people would have been disgusted at how close we're with Saudi Arabia from a human rights perspective. America hegemony no longer pretends to behave in the manor of being the world's civil rights police officer.
Now I disagree with this angle, but to be honest I never fully considered it. I always believed the change came due to the pressure from civil rights movements and from Capitalism realising that even with civil rights, they could still exploit black resources and even use it as a means to undercut poorer whites.
 

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Either you're flat out stupid, disingenuous or lack reading comprehension skills. Outside of abolishing slavery more civil rights progress was done during that period then any period during the life of this country. In the last 25 years this country has moved towards REMOVING CIVIL rights when it comes to individuals.


You just saying anything now

Nothing to do with progressive, I'm stuck between you being flat out stupid or disingenuous.
You’re fukking retarded. Just because civil rights passed in that era doesn’t mean it was more liberal.

That’s like saying 1863 was the most liberal time period in American history because slavery was abolished and from a liberalism standpoint that was the most impactful civil rights edict passed in American history.
 

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The internet warped your mind. You literally think leave it to beaver America was more liberal than an era that is okay with children being LGBT.

This is why MAGA wins, online only progressives mentally masturbate themselves into stupidity whereas MAGA appeals to the stupidity that masquerades as common sense.

At least with MAGA their rhetoric is simple, with online progressives it’s stupid masquerading as intellectual elitism that turns off everyone who isn’t bought into the echo chamber
That’s honestly the more impressive part. It’s one thing to trick some ozarks extra to vote against their interests. It’s a whole nother level of :whoo: to trick (assumingly) educated people into not only working against their interests but spending all their free time to persuade others to do it as well.

we was talking yesterday about how Trump only is breaking the law because Biden gave him the courage :mjlol:

Today only thanks to the Soviets was America pushed to be decent and since then it’s been a downward spiral :mjlol: my mans literally took objective good things you listed it and hand waved it away they refuse to let anything exist outside of their talking points :dead:
 

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Now I disagree with this angle, but to be honest I never fully considered it. I always believed the change came due to the pressure from civil rights movements and from Capitalism realising that even with civil rights, they could still exploit black resources and even use it as a means to undercut poorer whites.
You never considered it because you haven’t been terminally online to the point where the thought would even enter your mind.
 

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You’re fukking retarded. Just because civil rights passed in that era doesn’t mean it was more liberal.

That’s like saying 1863 was the most liberal time period in American history because slavery was abolished and from a liberalism standpoint that was the most impactful civil rights edict passed in American history.
It’s only been downhill since the civil war. Name a more liberal time then literally freeing slaves in America :damn:

:mjlol:
 

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Now I disagree with this angle, but to be honest I never fully considered it. I always believed the change came due to the pressure from civil rights movements and from Capitalism realising that even with civil rights, they could still exploit black resources and even use it as a means to undercut poorer whites.
I always found that some people give white people too much credit for why they decided to give us civil rights during the 1960s, if they could have prolonged their overt oppression of African Americans while being respected on the international stage they would have continued doing so. Fortunately for us america wanted to be seen as the geopolitical leader during the 50s-60s with Cuba, USSR CHINA VIETNAM etc and needed the clean up the mess in their own backyard which is why the civil rights generation worked. Additionally, you don't have to recognize someone from a civil rights perspective to continue exploiting them resource wise, you could just do what white americans now do with South American migrants.
 

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You never considered it because you haven’t been terminally online to the point where the thought would even enter your mind.
It's like you learned the phrase terminally online yesterday like a 2 year old. Lmao
 
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