General Trump Administration F**kery Thread (2025-2029)

[MAKAVELI25]

So let’s be clear about this because I think you have a slight misunderstanding of the US.

The attorney general is the top prosecutor and ENFORCES federal law. The US Attorney General is appointed by the President is under the President’s purview. They are not judges who interpret the law in the judiciatu, but they enforce the law. The US Attorney General is a political appointment. The US Attorney General is not under the judiaicary branch.

Merrick Garland, with Biden's tacit approval, did not seek to prosecute Trump until congress had the made for TV hearings in 2022 because Garland made no movement on pursuing Trump.

Biden telling Garland to make the case against Trump as soon as he was in the job isn't subverting democracy, as much as Biden telling Buttigieg to figure out the airline computer problem isn't. It was Garland's job to enforce the law and he didn't.

What about the nation's tradition of the President not telling the Justice Department what cases they should or should not be prosecuting? What about prosecutorial discretion?

Anyone who was trained as an attorney in the US and has knowledge of the history of the President's relationship with the Justice Department (especially post Watergate) will tell you that that 'Buttegieg/computer problem' analogy does not work at all.

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

 

[88m3]

Anti-Abortion Lawyer Pushed Out of F.D.A. After Republican Senator’s Pressure Campaign

Hilary Perkins, a career lawyer and a conservative, was targeted by Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri for defending the Biden administration’s position on the abortion pill.

www.nytimes.com

 

[mastermind]

What about the nation's tradition of the President not telling the Justice Department what cases they should or should not be prosecuting? What about prosecutorial discretion?

Anyone who was trained as an attorney in the US and has knowledge of the history of the President's relationship with the Justice Department (especially post Watergate) will tell you that that 'Buttegieg/computer problem' analogy does not work at all.

It was 2021, Trump was preisdent for four years. Tradition was over. Its 2025, those traditions never meant shyt.

When the War on Terror started, Bush signed off on legally sanctioning torture, among many other things.

And Biden said it was "seditious" after January 6. That was the moment.

Like I said before, Garland is to blame but Biden tacitly endorsed it.

These norms and traditions are dead and have never helped Americans. We literally saw Trump commit a crime live on camera and did nothing for two years.

You gotta stop defending bad behavior based of what we think are "norms" that a sitting POTUS tried to subvert.

 

[MAKAVELI25]

It was 2021, Trump was preisdent for four years. Tradition was over. Its 2025, those traditions never meant shyt.

When the War on Terror started, Bush signed off on legally sanctioning torture, among many other things.

And Biden said it was "seditious" after January 6. That was the moment.

Like I said before, Garland is to blame but Biden tacitly endorsed it.

These norms and traditions are dead and have never helped Americans. We literally saw Trump commit a crime live on camera and did nothing for two years.

You gotta stop defending bad behavior based of what we think are "norms" that a sitting POTUS tried to subvert.

I'm not defending anyone's actions. I also think history will judge Merrick Garland, along with many other Democrats, as men who were not fit to meet the moment.

But in your initial message that I quoted, you told the other poster that he had a "slight misunderstanding of the US". But your own post demonstrated either a lack of understanding or an oversight of both:

1.) How prosecutorial discretion works in the United States (i.e., prosecutors are normally not told what cases to pursue or not pursue), and that
2.) Especially after Watergate, there is an expectation that there be a degree of distance between the President and the DOJ.

You saying that "Biden telling Garland to make the case against Trump as soon as he was in the job" is in the same category as "Biden telling Buttigieg to figure out the airline computer problem" demonstrates that you might also have a slight misunderstanding of the US, especially of norms in the legal field and regarding the Justice Department.

 

[mastermind]

I'm not defending anyone's actions. I also think history will judge Merrick Garland, along with many other Democrats, as men who were not fit to meet the moment.

But in your initial message that I quoted, you told the other poster that he had a "slight misunderstanding of the US". But your own post demonstrated either a lack of understanding or an oversight of both:

1.) How prosecutorial discretion works in the United States (i.e., prosecutors are normally not told what cases to pursue or not pursue), and that
2.) Especially after Watergate, there is an expectation that there be a degree of distance between the President and the DOJ.

You saying that "Biden telling Garland to make the case against Trump as soon as he was in the job" is in the same category as "Biden telling Buttigieg to figure out the airline computer problem" demonstrates that you might also have a slight misunderstanding of the US, especially of norms in the legal field and regarding the Justice Department.

I didn't mean you, my bad. I meant the people in these positions.

And tbh, those norms are thrown out the window when a President tries to stop the democratic change of power. When someone does that, I would hope the incoming POTUS and his Attorney General takes that seriously and act quickly. That is the only norm that matters. I can't talk about prosecutorial discretion---which isn't even a thing if you live in local municipalities and how mayors, county execs and governors lean on their AGs.

I am not interested in these nuances, goofy word games liberals like to play to worm their way out of doing anything. We saw this shyt live on TV. This man tried to stop the democratic change of power and the Attorney General had to wait for congress to embarrass him in order to do anything. History is going to look at Garland, Biden, etc as clowns because they didn't take it seriously.

 

[King Kreole]

Trump:

 

[Serious]

What

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

 

[the cac mamba]

 

[Serious]

I’ll give you this.

The fact that some of these guys my not even be gang members doesn’t matter to the general populace, regarding how the general perception of this makes Americans feel more safe.

 

[Loose]

Called due process you stupid white supremacist fascist idiot. Trumps own DOJ has admitted they don't even know if they're apart of a "gang". Idk why mods allow you to post this shyt unchecked, average iq of Americans have me questioning the board of education

 

[the cac mamba]

Called due process you stupid white supremacist fascist idiot. Trumps own doj has admitted they don't even know if they're apart of a "gang". Idk mods allow you to post this shyt unchecked

did they come to this country illegally? yes or no?

 

[Loose]

did they come to this country illegally? yes or no?

Coming in the country "illegally" is a misdemeanor you fascist idiot, it doesn't constitute being deported to a random 3rd world countries prison.

I'm of the opinion we need a civil war, country cannot continue appeasing the cac mamba of the world

 

[mastermind]

I’ll give you this.

The fact that some of these guys my not even be gang members doesn’t matter to the general populace, regarding how the general perception of this makes Americans feel more safe.

that's why they said that.

Thats what they did in Germany.

Its what they did/do in the US to make you not care about the person who suffered at the hands of state of violence.