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Absolute bonkers shyt.

Glad Zelensky stood his ground.

This was an ambush and Trump/Vance thought they were going to be able to demean and parade around Zelensky like a beaten dog.

He handled it better than I would.

I bet none of those clowns in the press core ask Elon Musk that stupid suit question as well.
 

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It was clearly an ambush by Vance. They planned it out.

This meeting will mark a shift in US foreign policy going forward. I dont think a new president will bring it back to the way it was.
yeah there is no bringing it back. this is the path america is on. no ally would allow themselves to truly trust america again because they can't trust the american people.

and that's how you make lasting change in your image, nuke it and make it impossible to rebuild. trump set fire last time, but you can rebuild after a fire.
 
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yeah there is no bringing it back. this is the path america is on. no ally would allow themselves to truly trust america again because they can't trust the american people.

and that's how you make lasting change in your image, nuke it and make it impossible to rebuild. trump set fire last time, but you can rebuild after a fire.
There is, but it’s going to take an entire cleansing of what America is now. White people gotta suffer the indignity of it all despite what side they’re on. They have to have these conversations in their homes, actually fight and destroy the Republican Party. But furthermore, black people cant lead the charge because everyone will know white Americans will ruin it again.

The chickens have come home to roost.

The EU didn’t work with Britain until they actually felt the pain. That’s how the world actually works. They want the pain and then they’ll trust again.
 

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There is, but it’s going to take an entire cleansing of what America is now. White people gotta suffer the indignity of it all despite what side they’re on. They have to have these conversations in their homes, actually fight and destroy the Republican Party. But furthermore, black people cant lead the charge because everyone will know white Americans will ruin it again.

The chickens have come home to roost.

The EU didn’t work with Britain until they actually felt the pain. That’s how the world actually works. They want the pain and then they’ll trust again.
our allies still won't trust us after that cleansing because no one will ever allow themselves to be at the mercy of the ignorant american voter again. all it would take is for another sweet talking strongman ("i'm not going to hurt you, just the people you hate.") to do it all over again. we've crossed the rubicon.
 
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our allies still won't trust us after that cleansing because no one will ever allow themselves to be at the mercy of the ignorant american voter again. all it would take is for another sweet talking strongman ("i'm not going to hurt you, just the people you hate.") to do it all over again. we've crossed the rubicon.
Man, I don’t know if I believe that (or maybe it’s that I don’t want to) but I know the Boomers dying off here and in general Americans actually living through some real shyt will make allies take us seriously again.

On some “See. It hurt didn’t it.”
 
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