Gay Is The New Black - New Documentary
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Gays have too much power. Blacks have no power.
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Why isn't Polygamy good for the economy?We can go down this route and talk about all forms of policy.
Theres no state sales tax on a lot of stuff in MA, does that mean we should abolish state sales tax everywhere else?
We live in a society where we decide how we want to be governed.
Its perfectly rational to want some laws and to not want others.
If the state is going to be involved in marriage, I want people who want to get married to be able to get married...but i want to limit that to only single individuals. No more than two.
Polygamy isn't good for the economy. Gay marriage indirectly kinda benefits economies.
Leads to hording of resources.
Look at the middle east.
If you're an average dude, you can't make it or score any women if you're not SUPER caked up. It leads to an economy with EVEN MORE economic disparity.
same thing with gay couples, cause you know that income with no kids life leads a lot of rich dudes/women to splurge on their counterparts. They'd just have gay harems. Word to liberace.
Now, i'm down for people engaging in polyamory, etc in their own time but I can't see a positive outcome for legally binding two or more people.
I'm not saying they have it like us. It still holds that them not being able to marry is a form of discrimination. I don't disagree that marriage is a joke but hell if two people wanna do it, have at it.
They arent banned. Marriage by definition consists of a male and female being bound together...Male+male or female + female doesnt actually count as a marriage
A definition from who? The state? Religious parties? Yes this is cute little legalese defense used that banning gay marriage is not a form of discrimination but it doesn't fit with the spirit of non-discriminatory policy.
Miscegenation was banned at a certain point too. Yes we determined that was considered a form of discrimination and changed the law because of it. Taking the argument to an extreme doesn't change the fact that if two consenting non-married adults want to get married there is no reasonable justification to keep them from doing that in most cases.
Again, who decides those norms? Norms change with the times. Women used to not be able to vote. We used to not be able to use the same water fountains. Those were norms at the time. That doesn't mean they weren't wrong.
Should we ban porn with anal sex in it then too?
There shouldn't be comparisons between the black civil rights struggle and the fight for gay marriage. It diminishes the story of both. However I don't see how you can't be the least bit empathetic towards someone who is going through a similar legal matter (I say this because Alabama still had anti-interracial marriage laws until 2000). Two gay dudes wanna get married? Alright whatever. If we use the same kinds of legal and moral arguments against gay marriage as they used to against interracial marriage, you're using oppressive white supremacist logic. Are they the same thing? Hell no. But was the same logic used against both of us? Yes.
And we have gay brothers and sisters too. I want a gay black female to have the same rights as a straight white male. I just don't get why that shouldn't be something we should work towards.
Judging from the trailer it seems to be exploring being black and gay and how their civil rights movement affects our community and how it's perceived. Also, the battle against homosexuality.
Those titles are sort of misleading even though that one guy outright makes the comparison in the trailer. Either way, nothing really good could've come from the title of both that movie and the title of this thread.
I've said it before, there are parallels to be drawn but making a direct comparison will always just lead to outrage and such.
Those titles are sort of misleading even though that one guy outright makes the comparison in the trailer. Either way, nothing really good could've come from the title of both that movie and the title of this thread.
I've said it before, there are parallels to be drawn but making a direct comparison will always just lead to outrage and such.
Again what's normal? Gay people aren't from outer space. I don't think it's normal for Hugh Hefner to get married to a 20 year old but it'd be ridiculous to make that illegal.
I should have phrased it better. Gay marriage should be decided on its own merits. Polygamy or pedophilia aren't on the discussion table. IF there comes a time when polygamy needs to be argued about then fine. But acting like gay people haven't been fukking and falling in love for thousands of years isn't working anymore. Two consenting adults. Not a big deal. The gateway argument isn't very valid.
I'm black and gay.
It's not exactly the same but there's definitely some similarities. Gay dudes who chose to hold hands are getting their asses beat like its nothing. That sounds pretty familiar to what civil rights folks dealt with during sit ins, demonstrations, etc
If straight couples can hold hands, kiss, hold each other in public, gay dudes should be able to do the same. It shouldn't be something I should have to worry about.
All of it is just fear. Whites have a fear of blacks because they understand us. Homophobes have a fear of gays because they don't understand us.
It's not exactly the same but there's definitely some similarities. Gay dudes who chose to hold hands are getting their asses beat like its nothing. That sounds pretty familiar to what civil rights folks dealt with during sit ins, demonstrations, etc
If straight couples can hold hands, kiss, hold each other in public, gay dudes should be able to do the same. It shouldn't be something I should have to worry about.
All of it is just fear. Whites have a fear of blacks because they understand us. Homophobes have a fear of gays because they don't understand us.
This trailer made it seem like black people as a whole are keeping gay people from having rights, when in reality, if white people want gay marriage to be legal, there is nothing black people can do to stop them
The economic situation of black people in 2013 is so bad we're basically the under under class.. This is why these fakkits, cacs, and any other nationality has priority over us and get free reign to shyt on us. Broke nikkas, i blame yall.
Not all people that "look" black, personally identify as black -- they can still be discriminated against based on their looks.
Not all people that "look" queer, personally identify as LGBTQ -- they can still be discriminated against based on their looks.