Real shyt. Can't talk shyt if you ain't gon go out there and live it.
Word the motherfukkers that love talking the most about America this America that never raised their right hand and put on that uniform
Gas attack in Syria kills dozens: US forces launch strike on Shayrat Airbase in Homs (4+ dead)
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Word the motherfukkers that love talking the most about America this America that never raised their right hand and put on that uniform
I'm not saying they're incapable, they may very well have done it.
The track record is there.
So the isolationist is now a neocon. 
McTwerk
Dreams and Nightmares
This "bombing" of Syrian airfield is nothing more than a political stunt aimed to rally support behind Trump. 
War with Russia isn't coming. China isn't going to be intimidated by us essentially
with Assad.
Was chemical weapon strikes a horrific thing? Most def. Do you believe hitting an airfield with nerf guns is going to make Assad think twice?
I ain't for war, and certainly not in Syrian. What exactly are our special national interests in Syria? Oil? We got a surplus of oil , fukk we wanna waste billions on war to get pennies on the dollar in return in oil?
Nothing more than a facade for Trump to get his approval #s up, which, it seems to have worked.
War with Russia isn't coming. China isn't going to be intimidated by us essentially
with Assad. Was chemical weapon strikes a horrific thing? Most def. Do you believe hitting an airfield with nerf guns is going to make Assad think twice?
I ain't for war, and certainly not in Syrian. What exactly are our special national interests in Syria? Oil? We got a surplus of oil , fukk we wanna waste billions on war to get pennies on the dollar in return in oil?
Nothing more than a facade for Trump to get his approval #s up, which, it seems to have worked.
thatrapsfan
Superstar
This is a real argument against the strike. I agree with most of it at least if American interests are concerned.This "bombing" of Syrian airfield is nothing more than a political stunt aimed to rally support behind Trump.
War with Russia isn't coming. China isn't going to be intimidated by us essentially
Was chemical weapon strikes a horrific thing? Most def. Do you believe hitting an airfield with nerf guns is going to make Assad think twice?
I ain't for war, and certainly not in Syrian. What exactly are our special national interests in Syria? Oil? We got a surplus of oil , fukk we wanna waste billions on war to get pennies on the dollar in return in oil?
Nothing more than a facade for Trump to get his approval #s up, which, it seems to have worked.
Contrary to popular belief the actual supply of oil was never a major military objective. Securing its flow yes, but you don't need to go to war to gain access to oil imports ( which shale development already has made less importan)
All the melodrama about humanitarianism and WW3 by leftists is bs though. A global war in Syria is well under way, in which US is a party. People implicitly agree with use of military force in current manner considering very little opposition to it, so if they disagree with this new development theyre doing so from American fp lens
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Rosneft takes key step in push into Middle East
Russian oil group to expand trading after trumpeting agreements in Egypt and Libya
Novokuibyshevsk oil refinery plant, operated by Rosneft © Bloomberg
April 3, 2017 4:09 am by Henry Foy in Moscow and David Sheppardin Lausanne
Russia’s Rosneft will this week take custody of its first independently sourced cargo of Kurdish crude oil from Turkey’s port of Ceyhan, a key step in its strategic push into Middle East energy markets and its attempts to expand trading.
The world’s largest listed oil company by output has spent the past four months trumpeting agreements to buy oil from Egypt, Libya and Iraqi Kurdistan, drilling exploration wells in southern Iraq and considering opportunities in Lebanon, as it chases deals to fuel its fledgling international expansion.
Controlled by the Russian state and historically focused on domestic assets, the company’s foray into the Middle East has coincided with the Kremlin’s efforts to position itself as a powerbroker in the region, through its military intervention in the war in Syria that tilted that conflict in favour of the Assad regime and its active role in Libya’s transition from civil war.
Run by Igor Sechin, a close ally of Russian president Vladimir Putin, Rosneft has previously found its attempts to build a full-scale oil trading business hampered by sanctions, frustrating efforts to get anywhere near the influence of major global players such as BP, Shell or Total.
A bid to buy Morgan Stanley’s physical oil trading business fell apart after the imposition of western sanctions over Russia’s invasion and annexation of Ukraine. Since then it has worked with commodity traders Trafigura and Glencore, but has stepped up its private efforts in recent months amid a need to find new sources of crude to supply its refineries in Germany and newly acquired assets in India.
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“There are political advantages to making a rapid sequence of deals that closely align with Russia’s broader priorities in the Middle East,” said Richard Mallinson, geopolitical analyst at Energy Aspects. “But they can say with a straight face that this is also commercial — they are not just throwing money away on political projects.”
Late last year Rosneft sold a 20 per cent stake to a consortium of Glencore and the Qatar Investment Authority through a complex and opaque arrangement. It was seen as motivated, in part, by a desire to build ties between Moscow and the wealthy Gulf state that has backed anti-Assad forces in Syria.
Since then Rosneft has struck deals to buy between 20m and 35m barrels from Libya’s National Oil Corporation in 2017, and between 15m and 25m from Iraq’s semi-autonomous Kurdistan region each year between 2017 and 2019, people briefed on the agreements told the FT. The Libyan NOC and Kurdistan Regional Government declined to comment on the agreement details.
1. Dec 2016: Buys 30% of Egypt’s offshore Zohr gasfield
2. Feb 2017: Signs deal to buy 20m-35m barrels/year crude from Libya
3. Feb 2017: Signs deal to buy 15m-25m barrels/year crude from Kurdistan
4. Feb 2017: Begins drilling in Block 12 field, southern Iraq
5. Mar 2017: Buys cargoes of Egyptian crude for the first time
6. Mar 2017: Signs deal to supply Egypt with LNG
7. Ongoing: Mulling bidding for offshore rights in Lebanon
A large proportion of that will be sent to Rosneft’s refineries in Germany to replace supplies lost in the dissolution of a joint venture with BP at the start of this year. The new Middle East supplies have also been earmarked to meet the company’s new refining capacity in India following Rosneft and Trafigura’s $13bn acquisition of Essar Oil in October.
“Rosneft is constantly looking at efficient sources of crude both for its refining assets and expanding its trading arm,” a spokesman for the company said. “If the economics of such a potential deal should prove profitable, the company will be eager to acquire more crude from the [Middle East].”
Rosneft bought its first cargo of Egyptian crude in March, four months after paying $1.1bn to buy a 30 per cent stake in the country’s giant offshore Zohr gasfield. It is also considering taking part in an upcoming bidding round for offshore licences in Lebanon, a company official said.
It began drilling exploratory wells in southern Iraq last month, utilising licences acquired through its recent buyout of Russian rival Bashneft.
Russia open to extending Opec-backed oil supply cuts
Brent crude has fallen towards $50 a barrel, having started the year at $57
The new supplies are set to swell its annual amount of crude refined outside Russia by more than 50 per cent this year, from around 90m barrels in 2016. That is small compared with the 8m barrels of crude and refined products Shell’s trading division handles daily, but Rosneft is keen to steadily expand its Geneva-based trading operation.
“Our trading is still being developed . . . We’re definitely not Trafigura or Vitol,” Otabek Karimov, Rosneft’s vice-president for commerce and logistics, said at a Financial Times conference last week. “We’re trying to build a model that will efficiently monetise our production worldwide and build a system that creates the biggest return.”
The company’s recent forays into the Middle East market, with the backdrop of Moscow’s increasingly geopolitical clout in the region, has sparked suggestions it could be seeking to build a substantial presence on the ground, especially in Libya which is seeking to attract $20bn in fresh investment in its oil industry.
A spokesman for the company said it was “currently premature to say” it could invest in infrastructure in the country, but that it “will constantly seek to maximise shareholder value by looking at new opportunities in new markets, including in Libya.”
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newworldafro
DeeperThanRapBiggerThanHH
This entire situation is strange. The Syrian gas attack has no rationale to Assad who had all but won the war. Even if you account for Trump's lack of logical thinking this response is excessive even for him. What's the end objective here?
This is the midgame. But who are the players and who are the pieces.
......Ask yourself, who stands to gain and who seemingly always gains in these ME conflicts the last 15 years.
Camile.Bidan
Banned
Trump supporters (on reddit and Deplorables Facebook) are going wild over this. Basically, they are saying that we finally have a strong president. unlike the last 8 years. Anyone who is criticizing the attack is getting attacked by all the members of the forum.
Bias is really something else.
Clinton advocated war with Syria and Russia as part of her election Platform, and Trump was against war. Now, HRC supporters are calling Trump a war monger, and Trump supporters are banging their chests and raising their shields for total war. This is why I cant take politics seriously. People are so bias to the point of contradicting last month's political stance on a whim.
Special interests groups wanted war with Syria, and they are going to get what they want regardless of who we vote for. WE HAVE ZERO CONTROL about what happens at the federal level, and neither does the president.
Bias is really something else.
Clinton advocated war with Syria and Russia as part of her election Platform, and Trump was against war. Now, HRC supporters are calling Trump a war monger, and Trump supporters are banging their chests and raising their shields for total war. This is why I cant take politics seriously. People are so bias to the point of contradicting last month's political stance on a whim.
Special interests groups wanted war with Syria, and they are going to get what they want regardless of who we vote for. WE HAVE ZERO CONTROL about what happens at the federal level, and neither does the president.
Assad didn't comply with diplomacy in with his agreement in 2013 not to use more chemical weapons.
The USA enforced.
Lmk if its fixed
STOP GETTING PUNKED BY RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA. THEY LOVE TALKING BIG shyt UNTIL THE USA ENFORCES ON THEIR ASSES.If we enter WWIII and there is a draft, I hope you are the first one selected
OF COURSE THEY "WARN" THATS ALL THEY CAN DO.
THEY HAVE ONE RUSTY BUCKET AIRCRAFT CARRIER WHO CAN'T ENFORCE shyt.
Did we go to war with Sudan when Bill Clinton attacked them?
Where did you get the words "always" ?
right, we should trust the government, b/c they ALWAYS had our best interest, and will never lie to us.
they lied about Iraq, they lied about Libya, and they lying now about Syria...
I just wanna take time to thank you for the laughs and entertainment you're giving me tonight.... I'm a work bored as shyt...
i gotta give you rep points for this comedy...
You are terrible at predicting lies.
You don't even know when they're lying. Do you?