Game changing albums

[Jasonmask]

Migos no label comes to mind. nikkas in here just naming shyt they like that were not game changers

 

[Ineedmoney504]

Migos no label comes to mind. nikkas in here just naming shyt they like that were not game changers

Seriously how did no labels change the game?

 

[JustCKing]

Couldn't disagree more.
Juicy had a clear "first single" feel to it.
How was Nas' delivery any less hard than Big's?
Nas singing is harder than Total singing.

Street Dreams is in no way a predecessor to Hypnotize.

"Street Dreams" is far softer than "Juicy". Biggie's delivery was more agressove where Nas is more laid back. "Street Dreams" is more glossy where Biggie is detailing making it from nothing to something.

How is Nas singing any harder than Total singing? Singing is singing.

"Street Dreams" is definitely a predecessor to a song like "Hypnotize". You act like it's an insult.

Sure people don't like associating Nas with the jiggy era, but IWW was the first step in that direction. It is of no coincidence that Will Smith had Nas write for him and then have The Trackmasters and L.E.S. produce his album.

 

[JustCKing]

So he creates a term that is later fleshed out by other artists?

It would be as if in 2001 some NY rappers created a new style called Murda Muzik.

It was more than just a term. It was lifestyle that became a style of a music. T.I.'s album represents that transition. Nobody was referencing the sound or content as "trap" until he did it.

And no trap rap today sounds like TM101 either. Ross's Teflon Don and Waka's Flockaveli is what opened the door to trap becoming the dominant sound in Hip Hop to the point of oversaturation.

 

[muzikfrk75]

 

[Asicz]

Spin thread for game changing singles?

 

[JustCKing]

Killing Me Softly was a cover of an R&B song over Bonita Applebaum. It's exactly what you're talking about. And Lauryn was singing and rapping on Other songs on that album. She was the prototype. Not Missy.

Neptunes debuted in 97 on Harlem World.
I would need to see receipts that they got that placement because of Missy.

Need receipts on the Swizz Missy connection as well.

Mannie had been making beats way before Missy and Cash Money got that deal on the strength of No Limit. Not Missy.

There's no connection. That album didn't lead to a shift in production. It was a part of it though.

Breh, you argued for an entire thread about Lauryn's debut not being a Hip Hop album because it had more singing, yet here you are trying to explain how "Killin Me Softly" married Hip Hop and R&B, yet it contains no rapping. Missy's album dropped before Lauryn dropped her debut and you're completely missing the point. When Lauryn Hill sang and rap, there was a distinction. Missy would switch it up mid verse seamlessly and then go right back into what she was doing.

The Neptunes didn't debut on Harlem World. That was their first Hip Hop placement. That song appeared on the album in '97 and didn't blow until '98. Either way, that beat wasn't all that left field at least not anywhere near what "Superthug" was.

Mannie was making beats way back, but nothing took off until "Ha". That put Mannie and CMR on the map.

Swizz didn't take off until '98.

^^^ None of the above blew until Tim and Missy changed the soundscape. Before Tim, Trackmasters and The Hitmen were the dominant sound. Timbaland represented the changing of the guard. What he did with Missy dictated where the sound of Hip Hop went from the point.

 

[muzikfrk75]

Spin thread for game changing singles?

The Symphony

 

[Return of the Jedi]

I know Chance doesn't get a lot of love on here but Coloring Book changed the landscape of the industry forever. The first free album to win AOTY at the Grammys. I brought gospel back into hip-hop full force. It resurrected Chicago's soul hip-hop scene. Man I'm glad it dropped.

 

[mobbinfms]

The Symphony

 

[FreshAIG]

As much as I love Illmatic I cant really agree that it changed the game. It might be the best album ever but it didn't really change anything

Illmatic was the birth of super producers all on one album. Before then, it usually was 1-2 producers working on an entire project.

Plus he brought lyricism back to the forefront. A rappers shifted their focused on their lyrics post Illmatic heavy. Fat Joe, Common, The Roots, Das Efx, etc..you can hear and see the stark difference in style and emphasis on lyricism from their album prior to Illmatic and post.

 

[Jasonmask]

Seriously how did no labels change the game?

Nobody I repeat nobody was using quavos signature flow( people say it’s like 3 6 mafia or bone thugs both flows are unique) before this dropped. Shortly after you had other rappers emulating their flow. It may not be the most original flow, but no one was rapping like that a few years prior to NL. I don’t even like Migos projects as a whole, but I can’t deny their influence once NL dropped. shyt drake used their flow when he hopped on Versace he could’ve used his signature flow but he didn’t.

 

[mobbinfms]

Biggie's delivery was more agressove where Nas is more laid back

Neither had an aggressive delivery on either song.

Street Dreams" is more glossy where Biggie is detailing making it from nothing to something.

Quote the glossy lyrics from Street Dreams.

How is Nas singing any harder than Total singing? Singing is singing.

Different singer different feel.
Do you disagree with that?
Do you think Street Dreams would be exactly the same if Alanis Morrisette sang the hook?

Sure people don't like associating Nas with the jiggy era, but IWW was the first step in that direction. It is of no coincidence that Will Smith had Nas write for him and then have The Trackmasters and L.E.S. produce his album.

Nope. Ready to Die and Mr Smith. A bunch of NY rappers had jiggy songs in 96. Shyheim. Smooth The Hustler.
It all stemmed from Big blowing up with RTD and the remixes. Everyone, including Nas, followed suit. Nas just did it the most tastefully.

 

[Morose Polymath]

Cant forget this one

It took entirely too damn long for this album to get mentioned.

 

[mobbinfms]

It was lifestyle that became a style of a music.

Expound on that breh.

Nobody was referencing the sound or content as "trap" until he did it.

Outkast was rapping about the trap in 98.

And no trap rap today sounds like TM101 either. Ross's Teflon Don and Waka's Flockaveli is what opened the door to trap becoming the dominant sound in Hip Hop to the point of oversaturation.

Agreed