It doesn't really matter that they put hard drums under it. They knew what they were doing sampling Sting. Maybe Puff didn't get the idea to remake a Sting song from "The Message", but who was really takong those type of risks and The Hitmen were molded after The Trackmasters especially what The Trackmasters were doing on IWW.
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It doesn't really matter that they put hard drums under it. They knew what they were doing sampling Sting. Maybe Puff didn't get the idea to remake a Sting song from "The Message", but who was really takong those type of risks and The Hitmen were molded after The Trackmasters especially what The Trackmasters were doing on IWW.
"Juicy" was far grittier than "Street Dreams". For starters, Biggie's delivery and the song overall was harder than "Street Dreams". Also Nas is singing and Biggie isn't. "Street Dreams" is a predecessor to songs like "Hypnotize".
Was Biggie singing hooks on LAD? I don't remember that but maybe I'm forgetting.
Biggie has an entire song where he's singing on LAD. He also sings on "You're Nobody Til Somebody Kills You".
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
Word mad hyperbole lol smhMost of these other knee grows naming albums they just like a lot.
"Killing Me Softly" is just one song and what Lauryn was doing wasn't the same as what Missy was doing. Missy on Supa Dupa Fly was seamlessly transitioning from singing into rapping without batting an eye over production that could work either sphere without people even trying to categorize it as one or the other. Supa Dupa Fly paved the way for a Drake where he could make a song like "Over" or "Headlines" where he does both seamlessly.
Supa Dupa Fly indeed opened up the door for The Neptunes, Swizz, and Mannie. This was the beginning of post- Boom Bap and producers moving toward more left field, avant garde styles of production. After Supa Dupa Fly, we got "Superthug", "Ha", and a host of other songs that were "out there" production wise.
It doesn't matter who used the term trap before him. Nobody was referring to the type of music as trap until after T.I. told people what it was with that album. Every rapper with that type of content was underground on the ATL rap scene until T.I. Cool Breeze nor Ghetto Mafia blew with that style of rap and nobody labeled what they were doing as "trap rap" or "trap music".
It's dumb to say that there wasn't a trap music genre until Jeezy. Just say you prefer what Jeezy was doing over T.I. and call it a day. You're letting personal bias outweigh facts.
Nobody today sounds like what Sugar Hill Gang and early rappers were doing, it doesn't mean that today's rappers invented rap.
UpAndComing
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Illmatic sounds nothing like 84 hip hop breh.
Yeah sure
.The feeling, ambiance, and background of the album deff was 80s NYC
Burger King
Beefin
wu tang have 3 of these at least - 36 chambers , OB4CL, and supreme clientele (the album that influenced blueprint which we all know what happened next)
DonKnock
KPJ Gonna Save Us
A lot of stuff has already been covered so I want to trace a lineage of a sonic development.
(2007) Kanye uses a heavy delay and a guitar distortion on a single adlib in Stronger (I need ya *right now*)
(2008) Kid Cudi uses 2 different delays on the chorus in Day N Nite
(2010) Wiz Khalifa has a delay and uses his own voice like it was was a delay on the chorus of Never Been
This began a period where Wiz began just spamming the delay onto the entire song.
Most of the adlibs on the verses here are delays and he also began incorporating the telephone effect onto the adlibs:
In the chorus here the blank space is filled entirely with delay
(2013) Travis Scott uses surgical delay on the chorus of Upper Echelon only letting one word at a time catch the delay (*seven*/*iiide*/*echelon*) These all have the telephone filter on them.
On the same tape, he uses the delay similar to how Kanye used it originally on Uptown. Only using it for a one part (I’m a muhfuccin *monster*/*Woo*), but he lets it fill in the entire empty space similar to how Wiz used it on Medicated.
Then on Drugs You Should Try It he uses the delay in 4 separate ways:
1. Delays most of the chorus and puts a heavy guitar effect on it, the delay is right after the main lyrics so that it creates an additional widening.
2. Delays the verse, pitches it down and puts a heavy distortion on it
3.Delays the bridges, filters the shyt out of them, pitches them down, and then aggressively pans them
4. Uses a rapid delay with distortion at the end of phrases to fill in the space, some of these are panned.
(2016) When Wiz and Travis finally did a song together they spammed the fukk out of the delay, almost as if it was an acknowledgement of this shared history.
(2007) Kanye uses a heavy delay and a guitar distortion on a single adlib in Stronger (I need ya *right now*)
(2008) Kid Cudi uses 2 different delays on the chorus in Day N Nite
(2010) Wiz Khalifa has a delay and uses his own voice like it was was a delay on the chorus of Never Been
This began a period where Wiz began just spamming the delay onto the entire song.
Most of the adlibs on the verses here are delays and he also began incorporating the telephone effect onto the adlibs:
In the chorus here the blank space is filled entirely with delay
(2013) Travis Scott uses surgical delay on the chorus of Upper Echelon only letting one word at a time catch the delay (*seven*/*iiide*/*echelon*) These all have the telephone filter on them.
On the same tape, he uses the delay similar to how Kanye used it originally on Uptown. Only using it for a one part (I’m a muhfuccin *monster*/*Woo*), but he lets it fill in the entire empty space similar to how Wiz used it on Medicated.
Then on Drugs You Should Try It he uses the delay in 4 separate ways:
1. Delays most of the chorus and puts a heavy guitar effect on it, the delay is right after the main lyrics so that it creates an additional widening.
2. Delays the verse, pitches it down and puts a heavy distortion on it
3.Delays the bridges, filters the shyt out of them, pitches them down, and then aggressively pans them
4. Uses a rapid delay with distortion at the end of phrases to fill in the space, some of these are panned.
(2016) When Wiz and Travis finally did a song together they spammed the fukk out of the delay, almost as if it was an acknowledgement of this shared history.
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BmoreGorilla
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People keep trying to discredit TI with the trap music
I think people keep giving credit to Jeezy becuz he based his whole image on it
Trap as a subject matter was nothing new though.
So if that album didn't originate the sound, or the subject matter, are we giving it props for the title alone?
He was rapping like that in 94-95.
