Game changing albums

[mobbinfms]

Yea they took it a step further. Ill give you that. But it wasn't like that was something new for Puff. She's been doing that since Whats the 411

Puff was sampling R&B for Biggie and 80s hip hop records for his R&B artists.
I still say Street Dreams was harder than Juicy or the One More Chance remix.
The beat was harder and Nas just interpolated the chorus from the Eurythmics.
Puff took it ten steps further on his album.

 

[mobbinfms]

Had to look it up, 2 Live's debut dropped in 86. They really weren't on no pimp sh!t though, just freaky. Short gave birth to pimp talk in Hip Hop.

On a major in 86? B/c Short didn't get on a major until 88/89 with Life Is...

 

[mobbinfms]

I'll give you an example: The Trackmasters sample a Sting song for "The Message". Puff then remakes a Sting song for "I'll Be Missing You". No Way Out is also laced with mafiosos storytelling joints that sound similar to what Nas was doing with songs like "Shootouts" and "The Setup".

That was a very recent Sting song though... and they put hard drums under it.
I seriously doubt that Puff got the idea to use that Police song from Street Dreams.

 

[mobbinfms]

Jay-Z "Reasonable Doubt" 1996

While other drug dealing MCs were trying to convince you how tough they were and how exciting the drug game was, Jay-Z gave a reflective and cautionary look into the life of a successful dealer trying to leave the game. Unlike Biggie's "Ready to Die" where he talked about the desperation and struggle of the hustle, Jay-Z seemed sure he would lose it all if he didn't give up the game. Money wasn't a problem on this album. Living to spend it was.

Classic album...but it didn't change the game.

 

[mobbinfms]

How?

 

[mobbinfms]

Illmatic sounds like a time capsule that could be in an era 10 years prior in 1984.

Illmatic sounds nothing like 84 hip hop breh.

 

[mobbinfms]

How?

 

[George's Dilemma]

On a major in 86? B/c Short didn't get on a major until 88/89 with Life Is...

Going off of Wiki, and I never realized it until now, but Luke was putting that music out himself. As Nasty as They Wanna Be was the third album in 89" and he had help with Atlantic for that one, but the first two were strictly by Luke's label and both went Gold.

 

[fortheblessings]

How?

It influenced everyone in the UK, and even put on for grime outside of UK. When that came out the quality of grime and UK hip hop projects increased, beofre that nikkas was just putting random songs together on a tape. The style also changed from skippy flow, to a more smooth understandable one. Sonically it was just different. I am not the biggest grime enthusiast, but i give credit where credit is due. It was the UK's illmatic.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

I need to see receipts on Trap Muzik
I mean...what the fukk is a trap muzik?
We make Murda Muzik :prodigylol:

With Trap Muzik he gave a definition to what was about to come from ATL. Now we have a whole sub genre called trap. I heard ATL rappers saying trap before but I didn't really know what they were talking about. TI took the trap mainstream and here we are now for better or for worse

 

[666 ReVeNGe 666]

Did Wayne have a song where he didn't rap prior to 808s?

Are you asking if he had a song when he was just singing and auto-tune before 808s?

 

[BmoreGorilla]

I think Illmatic changed the game...in a subtle way.

I think it was the one album that shifted NY hip hop from the styles era (Jay rapping like the Fu Shnickens) to the straight spitting flow.

Also, many rappers have cited that album as forcing them to step their pen game up. Ghost (look at Ghost/Rae on 36 as compared to OBFCL), Jay (I don't think he ever admitted it, but it's obvious...if it weren't for Illmatic, RD would have just been Jay going "bam biggedy bam biggedy bam biggedy bam bam" for an hour straight :prodigylol Common spoke on hearing Nas on Stretch and Bob and realizing he needed to step up (plus the style change from Can I Borrow a Dollar?) and Prodigy. :pdahellclean:

Yea I can see that. But you could also say the same about Enta Da Stage

 

[Ineedmoney504]

I think Illmatic changed the game...in a subtle way.

I think it was the one album that shifted NY hip hop from the styles era (Jay rapping like the Fu Shnickens) to the straight spitting flow.

Also, many rappers have cited that album as forcing them to step their pen game up. Ghost (look at Ghost/Rae on 36 as compared to OBFCL), Jay (I don't think he ever admitted it, but it's obvious...if it weren't for Illmatic, RD would have just been Jay going "bam biggedy bam biggedy bam biggedy bam bam" for an hour straight :prodigylol Common spoke on hearing Nas on Stretch and Bob and realizing he needed to step up (plus the style change from Can I Borrow a Dollar?) and Prodigy. :pdahellclean:

jay wasn’t rapping like that in 94 breh lol

Did Wayne have a song where he didn't rap prior to 808s?

yea the song “prositute flang”

Not that I can remember right now I just remember that he did it a lot

see above

 

[666 ReVeNGe 666]

Did Wayne ever make a song where he did nothing but sing prior to 808s?

Hell yes where the fukk where you at

 

[big bun]

ill give you the coin...but TM101 musically more impactful. Lil Jon' Kings of Crunk tooo

Kings of Crunk is the definition of a game changer.

Most of these other knee grows naming albums they just like a lot .